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#2041 Postby andycottle » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:35 am

TT-SEA wrote:Andy... I hate to contradict you again... but it is scientifically impossible.

By definition the dewpoint can only be equal to or less than the temperature.

I just looked it up in my old science textbook. :D


Well your science book may need some updating.:) Whats the orginal published year date on it? Cause you it is old. At anyrate, I know what I saw:). -- Andy
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#2042 Postby ~Brennan~ » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:38 am

I don't think the weather men will adapt to the colder regime very well.. They will still assume that everything will go wrong and the cold air won't come... I think they are going to have it tough when it actually changes to colder climate again here.
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#2043 Postby ~Brennan~ » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:43 am

Hey, there was once a guy who solved a (physically/theoretically/mentally/ whatever you want to call it) impossible math problem...

i don't think it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE... Maybe the air needs to unsaturate itself... LOL :lol:
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#2044 Postby snow_wizzard » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:48 am

Yeah...there is something intriguing about how messed up the atmosphere is this winter. The GFS seems to have no "knowledge" of how to properly resolve it. This may be a reshuffling of the deck, as my NOAA friend likes to say.

I do not evern have a guess for what this summer is going to be like. It could be anything from a scorcher to an absolute abysmal, wet mess. I could make a great case for both. I have a suspicion that Mar - Apr will be cold and wet, but it's only an eduacted guess.
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#2045 Postby TT-SEA » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:50 am

The dewpoint cannot be higher than the temperature. It was true in 1992 when my textbook was written and it is true today. Just like the Theory of Relativity!!

Look it up.
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#2046 Postby andycottle » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:57 am

Taking a look at 00z GFS of tonight...looks like that dry period starting the 15, lasts into the 19th of next weekend. Maybe a few showers for Sunday. 850MB temps of -6C tomorrow, warm to 0C and near +3C by Friday, only to drop back to 0C again for the weekend. 500MB voricity heights are 552DM...droping to around 546DM for upcoming weekend. In the longer range, and after next weekend...the jet tries to go zonal, but has a hard time do, so instead, it continues to have some rippels in it.
-- Andy

Ok...goodnight. Going too bed now:)
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#2047 Postby snow_wizzard » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:57 am

I love Weather Bug...the graphic shows snowflakes, but the forecast says showers. Their bases are covered!
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#2049 Postby andycottle » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:37 am

Hey....looks like were doing pretty good here! Coool! -- Andy
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#2050 Postby ~Brennan~ » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:49 am

Well did anyone get any snow last night? I woke up at 7:15 and looked outside and it looks like it snowed for about 15 minutes at some period of the morning. There is a white tint to the grass and there is slush on top of the car. Did anyone get measurable snow?
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#2051 Postby ~Brennan~ » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:57 am

Well the 6z is a complete battle between the North and Southern jet streams. From day 7 on the two battle to take over but neither wins out in this run. The cold air is in perfect position for us to get slammed. If the battle between the two continues to show up, one will win out and either we'll get a majar arctic outbreak with tons of snow or we'll be left in the warm, southern sector or the jet. Lets hope this continues to show up. No matter what, it looks like we'll be entering a way more active weather pattern. :D
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#2052 Postby andycottle » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:00 am

Good morning you all. rise and shine..lol. :wink:

Taking a look at 6z GFS...today will feature just few isolated showers/sprinkles, but should be ending as the day goes on. Could also see some sunbreaks at times to. 15th - 18th still features dry and sunny weather with 850MB temp of -6C today, warming to -3 by mid week and 0C by Friday, but then going back to -3C for the weekend as we can look for some more showers during that time. Monday the 21st also looks to feature some showers.

Hmmm...in the longer range, looks like the jet goes kinda in a zonal flow and going to into central California, with troughs of low pressure constanly digging into the jet every few days out over the open mid Pacific ocean. -- Andy
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#2053 Postby andycottle » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:02 am

~Brennan~ wrote:Well did anyone get any snow last night? I woke up at 7:15 and looked outside and it looks like it snowed for about 15 minutes at some period of the morning. There is a white tint to the grass and there is slush on top of the car. Did anyone get measurable snow?


Bernnan, I got no snow at all during the overnight hours. Just some showers was all. -- Andy
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#2054 Postby ~Brennan~ » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:14 am

Currently light snow falling at 33*F at 8:15... Not much but it's nice to see it falling without any rain.
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#2055 Postby R-Dub » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:17 am

Well looking out the window now (just woke up, sleeping in is a wonderful thing :lol: ) its partly cloudy outside, but we did get a slight dusting of snow sometime overnight it looks like. Current temp is 32.1 degrees.

Hail pounding against the window woke me up twice in the middle of the night. Must have been an active night. Sounds like there are school delays in Grays Harbor Co this morning, the coast must have been the big winner last night.
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#2056 Postby snow_wizzard » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:30 am

Wow...Everything on the radar is showing up as snow! All blue, not a hint of green. Spring has really hit on the coast, with several school districts having delayed openings due to icy roads. :lol:

It seems like somebody on here was talking about a snow a few days ago. Hmmm... :eek:
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#2057 Postby TT-SEA » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:38 am

Its above freezing across all of the Seattle area.

Hail and rain/snow mixed in a convergence zone is not a widespread lowland snow event. That can happen at the end of April. Big deal.

If you look back at what the GFS showed last week (for today) this is not very interesting. You figured we would have arctic air in place and an big overrunning event starting now with the interaction of the northern and southern stream. Instead... a little convergence zone and then a sunny week. Pretty boring.

Although... its too bad that Covington is left out of any possible fun more often than not.
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#2058 Postby R-Dub » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:44 am

Looking at the cams this morning, PT Angeles, Hecklesville shed, and state camp on the coast got a good shot of snow overnight.
Currently 26 degrees in Wishkah, WA in Grays Harbor Co.

Temp has dropped down to 31.7 degrees here under clearing skies.
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#2059 Postby weatherlover427 » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:46 am

103 pages of this is annoying the rainy weather down here in California out of me.

I just HAVE to post before I sleep the rest of the week away and float out to the Pacific when we get rain for 5 1/2 days straight as we are progged to do starting tomorrow night.

Answer me this, oh dear Seattle area wx buds:

Why the hostility??!!?!
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#2060 Postby R-Dub » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:47 am

SHORT TERM FORECAST
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
830 AM PST MON FEB 14 2005

Just issued from NWS Seattle for just south of my area down to the king/Snohomish Co. boarder

WAZ006-141830-
EVERETT AND VICINITY-
830 AM PST MON FEB 14 2005

.NOW...LOCAL SNOW SHOWERS AND SMALL HAIL ASSOCIATED WITH HEAVY
SHOWERS WILL LAST FOR THE NEXT TWO HOURS BETWEEN EVERETT AND MONROE
AND SOUTH TO THE KING-SNOHOMISH COUNTY LINE. SNOW ACCUMULATIONS LESS
THAN 1 INCH WILL OCCUR WITH THE SHOWERS. A STRAY BOLT OF LIGHTNING
IS ALSO POSSIBLE.
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