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#581 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:06 pm

lol...mine too...i mean, they are the top dogs and i know that. but, when you have a weak system like this and its moving just about due W pretty much all day...its getting harder and harder to push out to sea.. and this might not be that big of deal, but at least adress the issue of it moving west and not call it 285


The NHC thought they had Irene nailed several days ago but can't accept that itl will be heading several hundred miles west of their initial projected cone. It has been heading nearly due W all day.
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#582 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:11 pm

It's west. Whether it is too low to catch the upper winds or a High is backfilling - it is definitely west.

That low storm going with the surface flow theory is panning out now...
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#583 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:19 pm

you can argue the center has even gone a little south from earlier today.... dont loop this, just take the first image and the last and draw a straight line

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... at2_0.html
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#584 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:20 pm

Also, it seems to be getting a push to the WSW. Look at the water loop pushing WSW. Where is that coming from? I wouldn't be surprise if a piece of energy spins off and heads W and develops down the road.
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#585 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:22 pm

yeah, i agree very close to that indeed
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#586 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:22 pm

ivanhater wrote:you can argue the center has even gone a little south from earlier today.... dont loop this, just take the first image and the last and draw a straight line

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... at2_0.html


when yall do it, post your comments
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#587 Postby mahicks » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:24 pm

ivanhater wrote:
ivanhater wrote:you can argue the center has even gone a little south from earlier today.... dont loop this, just take the first image and the last and draw a straight line

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... at2_0.html


when yall do it, post your comments


To be honest, I just watched this in loop.....Sorry :-)

I then tried as you requested...

Both methods seem WSW almost :eek:
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#588 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:24 pm

Last time it did this it jumped NW soon after.

Our local weatherman says it will curve soon going east of Bermuda...
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#589 Postby CronkPSU » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:27 pm

the LLC looks really bad right now
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#590 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:29 pm

Our local weatherman says it will curve soon going east of Bermuda...


No it won't
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#591 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:31 pm

its moving a little south of 270 and they say 285...just crazy
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#592 Postby Sanibel » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:39 pm

It has 36 hours of going through that dry area ahead of it...
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#593 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:44 pm

ivanhater wrote:
ivanhater wrote:you can argue the center has even gone a little south from earlier today.... dont loop this, just take the first image and the last and draw a straight line

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... at2_0.html


when yall do it, post your comments


i dont know how to write on the images so if someone who knows, put a point on the first image and then on the last one and draw a line, that would be awesome
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#594 Postby wxmann_91 » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:50 pm

ivanhater wrote:you can argue the center has even gone a little south from earlier today.... dont loop this, just take the first image and the last and draw a straight line

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... at2_0.html


A new center has just formed to the south, in the deep convection, that's what's probably pulling the original center to the WSW. I believe that the new center will become dominant.
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#595 Postby superfly » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:55 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:
ivanhater wrote:you can argue the center has even gone a little south from earlier today.... dont loop this, just take the first image and the last and draw a straight line

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... at2_0.html


A new center has just formed to the south, in the deep convection, that's what's probably pulling the original center to the WSW. I believe that the new center will become dominant.


Yeah, a new center seems to have formed closer to the convection SE of the old one. Pretty clear in this still.

http://hadar.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... al/202.jpg
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#596 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:04 pm

wow, yeah, it looks like there a new center or one trying to form...its still far south..and i would still expect it to move pretty much west
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#597 Postby WXFIEND » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:05 pm

Well... if the system stays weak, it moves toward land.

If it strengthens, it moves away.

Funny how the WEAKNESS in this storm is keeping it in the picture and not the other way around.

I'm not seeing that well of a center.. but i'm bad at finding centers... has it truly reformed south?
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#598 Postby dolebot_Broward_NW » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:06 pm

I also noticed the nearly due west movement. Unless my eyes are deceiving me and I'm not following the center. I noticed the convection seems to be headed south, but not necessarily the LLC.
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#599 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:08 pm

dolebot_Broward_NW wrote:I also noticed the nearly due west movement. Unless my eyes are deceiving me and I'm not following the center. I noticed the convection seems to be headed south, but not necessarily the LLC.


well if you take to center from earlier and the center now(not counting the "new" center) it is slightly south of ealier
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#600 Postby elysium » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:09 pm

Irene has been moving W.S.W. for the past couple hours, and is heading into some very favorable waters for further intensification. The trough that is forecast to come off the east coast in approximately 48 hours has no chance of appreciably recurving Irene, and tomorrow we should see most of the models shift much further left than the westward shifts we have been seeing up to this time.

With Irene now destine to enter into hurricane alley and be positioned under a building ridge to her north, in the most conducive waters in the Atlantic for development, there can be little doubt that she will become a much more significant event than heretofore has been estimated, and more attention will be given to precise location of center and directional forward heading, as well as establishing pinpoint hour by hour center locations for the immediate preceeding hours. This should result in a more accurate assessment of not only where the storm has been, but also where the storm might be heading.

All interests in the southern Bahamas should monitor the developments concerning what will likely then be Hurricane Irene within the next 24 hrs. Irene is on a course that climatologically favors her remaining on the southerly track of hurricane alley just north of the Leeward Islands and Greater Antilles. High pressure is forecast by all models to build in resolutely to Irene's north blocking any sharp recurvature to the north, and keeping her on a west to W.N.W. heading for the next 6 or 7 days, and perhaps longer. Furthermore, Irene may be poised to enter into a rapid intensification phase very soon, depending on how far she tracks W.S.W. over the next day or two. Irene is dangerously unpredictable and may fall apart and degenerate into an open wave, however, this is becoming less and less likely and the worst may be behind her. Recurvature is completely out of the question.

Without the necessary means to measure some of the nuances indigenous to Irene's current synoptical outlook, the research I have perfomed on the accumulated data pieced together so far has only permitted me to assess this developing situation at a level of precision that amounts to little more than on the spot guesswork of everything from Irene's future track to her intensity estimates. Much more data is needed to accurately assess the new developments that are arriving in now hour by hour. Safe to say that the threat Irene poses also increases at the same rate, as she heads into rich, tropically fertile oceanic waters, and improves her outflow with high pressure building overhead.
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