Remnents of Typhoon Ioke

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Remnents of Typhoon Ioke

#1 Postby StormScanWx » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:57 am

Since the other thread now has 25 pages, here is the new one.

Thread #1
http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=88285

Thread #2
http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=88798
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#2 Postby Zardoz » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:00 am

Looks like the Japanese can breathe easy:

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... ml#a_topad
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#3 Postby WindRunner » Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:09 am

Zardoz wrote:Looks like the Japanese can breathe easy:

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... ml#a_topad


Don't say that yet . . . this thing was supposed to be at 25N at 165E a few days ago . . . and that sure didn't happen. It is more likely to happen this time, however, because Ioke (for now) is weaker and therefore more suceptible to fronts recurving it. While it seems unlikely now that Japan will get any more than some huge waves and maybe some mid to high level clouds, they are far from breathing easy.
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#4 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:29 pm

Looks like they will sail over to Wake to inspect the damage tomorrow or the following day. This will be VERY interesting.

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In addition, an aerial survey is planned, as has been mentioned here.
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#5 Postby JTD » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:48 pm

Were any animals/vegetation on Wake? I guess it'be highly unlikely since it was so small
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#6 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sun Sep 03, 2006 1:54 pm

jason0509 wrote:Were any animals/vegetation on Wake? I guess it'be highly unlikely since it was so small


Here's a good site for information on Wake Island, including geography, physical features, flora, fauna, history, and uses...

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There are actually several species of plant species on the island (including several endemics as well as widespread Pacific and worldwide species), as well as seabird species nesting, as well as some introduced mammals and (mostly) native (often endemic, in the case of many species) of fauna. It's a pretty diverse island, like all Pacific subtropical, temperate, and tropical islands, regardless of size of the island(s). As for people, the island is used as an aircraft/military base, and other than some residents who work there, there are really no permanent human residents living on Wake.
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#7 Postby Jim Cantore » Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:38 pm

Looks like a pretty little island, I hope it didn't get swept clean.
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#8 Postby Epsilon_Fan » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:10 pm

amazing how a small, low island like that can retain a scrub forest (12-20 feet tall) I guess that's where all the creatures go when a storm approaches? Plus many of the flying insects and birds are migratory so they can get the hell outta dodge.
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#9 Postby TampaSteve » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:13 pm

Hurricane Floyd wrote:Looks like a pretty little island, I hope it didn't get swept clean.


Yeah...has anyone heard from that "French meteorologist"??? :lol:
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#10 Postby WindRunner » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:17 pm

TampaSteve wrote:
Hurricane Floyd wrote:Looks like a pretty little island, I hope it didn't get swept clean.


Yeah...has anyone heard from that "French meteorologist"??? :lol:


Let's not bring that up . . . that part of the AP article was fake, a forgery. Now if everyone can put that behind them and get on with discussing the final days of this former monster, I think it'd be for the better.
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#11 Postby P.K. » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:18 pm

RSMC TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVISORY
NAME TY 0612 IOKE (0612)
ANALYSIS
PSTN 032100UTC 28.0N 150.6E GOOD
MOVE NNW 11KT
PRES 950HPA
MXWD 085KT
50KT 160NM NORTHEAST 120NM SOUTHWEST
30KT 325NM NORTHEAST 250NM SOUTHWEST
FORECAST
24HF 042100UTC 31.6N 147.2E 80NM 70%
MOVE NNW 11KT
PRES 955HPA
MXWD 075KT
45HF 051800UTC 36.3N 146.9E 150NM 70%
MOVE N 14KT
PRES 960HPA
MXWD 075KT
69HF 061800UTC 43.6N 152.6E 290NM 70%
MOVE NNE 20KT
PRES 975HPA
MXWD 065KT =
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#12 Postby TampaSteve » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:26 pm

WindRunner wrote:
TampaSteve wrote:
Hurricane Floyd wrote:Looks like a pretty little island, I hope it didn't get swept clean.


Yeah...has anyone heard from that "French meteorologist"??? :lol:


Let's not bring that up . . . that part of the AP article was fake, a forgery. Now if everyone can put that behind them and get on with discussing the final days of this former monster, I think it'd be for the better.


Yeah...I know it was bogus...that's why I put the :lol: at the end. Please refer to my post in Ioke thread #2.

I had to come over here and speak up about it becuase it was causing a stir over at Weather Underground. I'm glad you all called LeeJet on it.

BTW...great site!

Cheers,

TampaSteve
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#13 Postby WindRunner » Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:40 pm

First off, Welcome to S2K! Glad you're enjoying it!

And second - good . . . I was hoping you knew it was fake, because I am tired of hearing about it. Now back to Ioke . . .

Starting to really take on an ET look . . .

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#14 Postby bostonseminole » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:15 pm

looks like I am off the hook..
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#15 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:18 pm

The eye structure appears to be resembling that of Winnie (1997) (as well as some other storms) after it completed an ERC and slowly began weakening. In that process, it featured a smaller inner eyewall structure and huge (approximately nearly 200-mile wide) outer eyewall structure. Ioke appears to be in a similar process and is now sporting a small inner eyewall structure and very large outer eyewall structure while slowly weakening. Anyone noticing this?
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#16 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:24 pm

CapeVerdeWave wrote:The eye structure appears to be resembling that of Winnie (1997) (as well as some other storms) after it completed an ERC and slowly began weakening. In that process, it featured a smaller inner eyewall structure and huge (approximately nearly 200-mile wide) outer eyewall structure. Ioke appears to be in a similar process and is now sporting a small inner eyewall structure and very large outer eyewall structure while slowly weakening. Anyone noticing this?


Not just Winnie, but many WPAC STY's go thru an ERC and go from small pinhole to huge collossal eye (other recent examples - Paka 1997, Chaba 2004, Dianmu 2004 to an extent, Longwang [don't laugh!] 2005, Songda 2004, etc. We might see one last intensification phase out of Ioke as the outflow gets enhanced by the trough to the north.

BTW, this really isn't an ERC, but dry air entrainment. Okay, sorry my thoughts don't flow, but what I meant is that WPAC typhoons get this look many times.

Ioke was really the classic WPAC STY, in a relatively unfavorable location for one. And now another system seems to be forming to the southeast near the Date Line, and it has good model support. Sorry to get OT, but if that's not a sign of El Nino, I'm not sure what is.
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#17 Postby Epsilon_Fan » Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:44 pm

Seems rather Epsilon-esque in physical appearance now. Ioke is a rather elderly storm since she's been around so long... figures she would by suffering from hair-loss (thinning cloud layers, indistinct eye)
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#18 Postby TampaSteve » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:34 pm

wxmann_91 wrote:Ioke was really the classic WPAC STY, in a relatively unfavorable location for one. And now another system seems to be forming to the southeast near the Date Line, and it has good model support. Sorry to get OT, but if that's not a sign of El Nino, I'm not sure what is.


Sorry to stay OT, but might that explain the slow season so far in the Atlantic? Hopefully it stays that way.
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#19 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:52 pm

TampaSteve wrote:
wxmann_91 wrote:Ioke was really the classic WPAC STY, in a relatively unfavorable location for one. And now another system seems to be forming to the southeast near the Date Line, and it has good model support. Sorry to get OT, but if that's not a sign of El Nino, I'm not sure what is.


Sorry to stay OT, but might that explain the slow season so far in the Atlantic? Hopefully it stays that way.

In some ways, yes. Decreased OLR (outgoing longwave radiation, and it signals increased convection) at the Date Line increases shear in the Atlantic. During an El Nino, environmental pressures at the Date Line are decreased and thus more convection, thus why El Nino supresses Atlantic storms.
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#20 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:55 pm

Ioke can't stay powerful forever. Everything that goes up, must come down eventually. :D :grrr:
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