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#21 Postby yoda » Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:10 am

BEF, WINTER IS NOT OVER YET!! WE SHALL SEE, AS THE NEW GFS NOW SUGGESTS NEXT MONDAY A GOOD AMOUNT OF SNOW AS THE RAIN TURNS TO SNOW... QPF .75.... OF SNOW! TONIGHT WILL BE INTERESTING, BUT AGAIN AS IT HAS BEEN THIS WINTER IN THE MA, IT LOOKS LIKE THE NOREASTER WILL MISS US, BUT NGM MODEL THIS MORNING SAYS NO WAY! WILL WATCH CLOSELY...

BEF, I WON'T CAPITULATE TO YOU UNTIL I KNOW THERE IS 0% CHANCE OF ANY MORE SNOW IN THE DC REGION....

THE FORCE IS WITH ME... :lol:
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#22 Postby Anonymous » Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:28 am

Yoda...lol...I do believe you have had one too many starship battles with your arch rival Darth Vader :D
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#23 Postby yoda » Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:30 am

LOL!! :lol: We shall see, young padawan! :P :D

We will see who is the master! :D
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#24 Postby Anonymous » Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:33 am

Yoda...better re-think that GFS...there may be some rain mixed with snow Monday night, but certainly not even a minor winter event...after that the trend will be for more milder air...it's over...it's been over since February 6th...think March Madness...think Spring...Winter was over a month ago for the MA.
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#25 Postby JCT777 » Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:59 am

BEF - Now have you thoroughly enjoyed being the Grim Reaper of the winter season? Actually, that is kind of how I picture you. :wink:
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#26 Postby Anonymous » Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:05 am

JCT777...man I don't mean to sound like the grim reaper...but I was just trying to be realistic based on what patterns I saw developing. Trust me I love snow and lots of it, but it was not in the cards this season. Just trying to give the facts and not spread false hope out there, at least you knew what to expect :D
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#27 Postby JCT777 » Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:46 am

That's cool BEF. Maybe next winter will be better for all of us.
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#28 Postby Guest » Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:51 am

as accurately forecasted b ME last NOV. The idea that the QBO was going to switch in DEC or Jan was a friggin joke.


weatherfan wrote:I think also that the QBO east pase did it swich until very Late winter.Some were going for the swich in Late janaurey instread it was a slow transion to east to west phase.Which has in part made for the La nina like predomantey strong Jet stream.Then in Januarey we finlly got the cold.But the storm track was very surpress to the south.Another thing some may argure is that the fact we had no real clear singel in many of the Indexs this winter. The NAO was mostey nurturl this winter with some times of Negative periolds.The PNA was likey the strongest singel this year since it was mostey negative.Which in part can explain the lack of much phanseing this winter.And the QBO eastery was another strong singel which faverd the stong PJ this year.ENSO had no real singel.


So in the end we sould it really be surpise about the Normal to below normal snow fall from Philly south.Because two of the strongest singels were against big phaseing events this year.But it does not mean the winter can't be cold.As an example this year cold and below normal snow fall.Just as warm winters does it always mean below normal snow fall.There has been warm winters but with above normal snow fall.It all depends on timing in any giving season.Some seasons like this year timing is bad on alot of storms.other years Timing is perfect.Aka 96 and 2002-2003 winter.This winter imo was still historect in its own ways.Not for the snow.But how cold it was in Januarey.That made this winter just as historecal.But because most people are snow fans and love snow.It will be forgoten when it really sould it be over look.Because the cold we had in January was pretty impressive and still made this winter a historect one in that regard.
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#29 Postby Guest » Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:25 pm

DT wrote:as accurately forecasted b ME last NOV. The idea that the QBO was going to switch in DEC or Jan was a friggin joke.


weatherfan wrote:I think also that the QBO east pase did it swich until very Late winter.Some were going for the swich in Late janaurey instread it was a slow transion to east to west phase.Which has in part made for the La nina like predomantey strong Jet stream.Then in Januarey we finlly got the cold.But the storm track was very surpress to the south.Another thing some may argure is that the fact we had no real clear singel in many of the Indexs this winter. The NAO was mostey nurturl this winter with some times of Negative periolds.The PNA was likey the strongest singel this year since it was mostey negative.Which in part can explain the lack of much phanseing this winter.And the QBO eastery was another strong singel which faverd the stong PJ this year.ENSO had no real singel.


So in the end we sould it really be surpise about the Normal to below normal snow fall from Philly south.Because two of the strongest singels were against big phaseing events this year.But it does not mean the winter can't be cold.As an example this year cold and below normal snow fall.Just as warm winters does it always mean below normal snow fall.There has been warm winters but with above normal snow fall.It all depends on timing in any giving season.Some seasons like this year timing is bad on alot of storms.other years Timing is perfect.Aka 96 and 2002-2003 winter.This winter imo was still historect in its own ways.Not for the snow.But how cold it was in Januarey.That made this winter just as historecal.But because most people are snow fans and love snow.It will be forgoten when it really sould it be over look.Because the cold we had in January was pretty impressive and still made this winter a historect one in that regard.



Thats fine that you did DT however quite a few like myself put out our winter Outlooks back in Oct and even before that which back then the debate still raged on about when the QBO would make the shift at a earlier date such as weatherfan here put it. Some even said before that i myself choose late Jan. Either way other then my own backyard and a few others (Especially the OV)for the most part so far from the west coast to the eastcoast i have done quite well.
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#30 Postby Stormsfury » Wed Mar 10, 2004 12:59 pm

It was pretty clear that once the QBO values didn't drop below -20 for the month of October that it wouldn't switch to westerly until at LEAST February ... (kudos to donsutherland1 and others) ...
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