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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1001 Postby Snowman67 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:01 pm

wxman57 wrote:Just for fun, here's a meteogram for Houston (IAH) from the 12Z run compared to the 6Z run. See if you can spot any difference.

http://wxman57.com/images/12ZGFSDec12.JPG

http://wxman57.com/images/6ZGFSDec12.JPG


What does your cold monger co-worker think at this point?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1002 Postby Snowman67 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:02 pm

wxman57 wrote:Just for fun, here's a meteogram for Houston (IAH) from the 12Z run compared to the 6Z run. See if you can spot any difference.

http://wxman57.com/images/12ZGFSDec12.JPG

http://wxman57.com/images/6ZGFSDec12.JPG


What does your cold monger co-worker think at this point?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1003 Postby South Texas Storms » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:05 pm

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wxman57 wrote:Just for fun, here's a meteogram for Houston (IAH) from the 12Z run compared to the 6Z run. See if you can spot any difference.

http://wxman57.com/images/12ZGFSDec12.JPG

http://wxman57.com/images/6ZGFSDec12.JPG


What does your cold monger co-worker think at this point?


He's all aboard the cold train, as am I, his other coworker.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1004 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:10 pm

Surface snow maps and whatnot notwithstanding, doesn't look drastically different early on 18z GFS run. Think the flaws in runs prior of models trying to jam the systems and cold eastward into the blocks have halted at the moment.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1005 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:17 pm

1068 mb HP in NW Canada in under 1 week!?
(18z GFS)
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1006 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:19 pm

Iceresistance wrote:1068 mb HP in NW Canada in under 1 week!?
(18z GFS)


It's faster than the 12z GFS with initial cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1007 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:21 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:1068 mb HP in NW Canada in under 1 week!?
(18z GFS)


It's faster than the 12z GFS with initial cold.

I get snowed on December 19th-20th. The 18z GFS is going to be even crazier than the already insane 12z GFS.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1008 Postby BigB0882 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:24 pm

That one Euro map shows a stout SE Ridge. Does the cold make it further south and east or is it stopped up?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1009 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:24 pm

Snowstorm here on the GFS Monday. We didn't even get much last run

Yeah this run is headed for big things again
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1010 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:27 pm

BigB0882 wrote:That one Euro map shows a stout SE Ridge. Does the cold make it further south and east or is it stopped up?

The SW Ridge denys any cold air from coming here, the SE Ridge may slow it down to prevent it from reaching the Coastal regions and the Southeast.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1011 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:28 pm

Brent wrote:Snowstorm here on the GFS Monday. We didn't even get much last run

Yeah this run is headed for big things again


Compared to other runs and other models, this GFS run is more impressed with the leading cold wave. Doesn't send it east as quick. The motherlode is still up in the white north.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1012 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:30 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:Snowstorm here on the GFS Monday. We didn't even get much last run

Yeah this run is headed for big things again


Compared to other runs and other models, this GFS run is more impressed with the leading cold wave. Doesn't send it east as quick. The motherlode is still up in the white north.

Yep, with a monstrous 1070+ mb HP over the Arctic Ocean.

1065 mb might be the new minimum for the strength of the Arctic HPs for this outbreak unless something crazy happens.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1013 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:31 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:Snowstorm here on the GFS Monday. We didn't even get much last run

Yeah this run is headed for big things again


Compared to other runs and other models, this GFS run is more impressed with the leading cold wave. Doesn't send it east as quick. The motherlode is still up in the white north.

Yep, with a monstrous 1070+ mb HP over the Arctic Ocean.

1065 mb might be the new minimum for the strength of the Arctic HPs for this outbreak unless something crazy happens.


Oh yes, what's a few decades between 1065hps? We get them every few hours now :na: .
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1014 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:33 pm

If the image below were to verify for system placement, then you can almost bet on surface teams being colder than modeled. This would push the freezing rain threat farther south.

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1015 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:35 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Compared to other runs and other models, this GFS run is more impressed with the leading cold wave. Doesn't send it east as quick. The motherlode is still up in the white north.

Yep, with a monstrous 1070+ mb HP over the Arctic Ocean.

1065 mb might be the new minimum for the strength of the Arctic HPs for this outbreak unless something crazy happens.


Oh yes, what's a few decades between 1065hps? We get them every few hours now :na: .

Snow Miser has the big plan for Christmas week with these monstrous Arctic HPs. :slime:
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1016 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:36 pm

Looks like 18z wants to cancel the 12z's 1899 party :lol: . Still cold but there's no 1060mb HP dropping into Montana this run around 200hrs...still watching.

Edit: nevermind, 1064mb in southern BC at 222hrs, party on 8-)
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1017 Postby txtwister78 » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:36 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
BigB0882 wrote:That one Euro map shows a stout SE Ridge. Does the cold make it further south and east or is it stopped up?

The SW Ridge denys any cold air from coming here, the SE Ridge may slow it down to prevent it from reaching the Coastal regions and the Southeast.


The cold will "push" but it doesn't necessarily "deny" cold air from eventually making it into that area. The strength of the arctic airmass we're talking about here is different and eventually the cold will win out and overwhelm the pattern.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1018 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:37 pm

bubba hotep wrote:If the image below were to verify for system placement, then you can almost bet on surface teams being colder than modeled. This would push the freezing rain threat farther south.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2022121218/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_28.png

We get chilly late this week and maybe some light rain or sleet this weekend but that early week system next week is what will really kick this event into high gear. That could well lay down a solid blanket of snow across the Southern Plains. The rest of the week before Christmas will be very cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1019 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:38 pm

18z GFS ridge off the west coast is oriented different so no big storm for TX/LA this run, compared to the 12z.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#1020 Postby Iceresistance » Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:40 pm

Ntxw wrote:18z GFS ridge off the west coast is oriented different so no big storm for TX/LA this run, compared to the 12z.

The GFS is still likely in the dust after December 19th for storm systems and ridges.
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