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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1021 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:25 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:The cold air and winter storm threat is just a little delayed on the 12z GFS. It's still there...just a few days later in January :wink:


Yep, and as I’ve been staring, the upper air pattern the week of the 20th would deliver the goods to us.


Yeah those lower heights would certainly give us a better chance of sleet/snow. Next week may be more of a freezing rain threat if temperatures are cold enough.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1022 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:12 pm

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EnnisTx wrote:Models not only show the potential threat on the 17th and 18th but again on the 21rst through 23rd. It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.


The 21st through 23rd have a much more favorable upper air pattern. Deep dig into the SW and ejection right across Texas. During that time frame, it looks like some gnarly ice accumulations for DFW as they would be right in the battleground.



That window also has more ensemble support. It's fun to look at individual operational runs but beyond 5 days or so they are basically just another ensemble member.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1023 Postby Brent » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:37 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
EnnisTx wrote:Models not only show the potential threat on the 17th and 18th but again on the 21rst through 23rd. It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.


The 21st through 23rd have a much more favorable upper air pattern. Deep dig into the SW and ejection right across Texas. During that time frame, it looks like some gnarly ice accumulations for DFW as they would be right in the battleground.



That window also has more ensemble support. It's fun to look at individual operational runs but beyond 5 days or so they are basically just another ensemble member.


Yeah just looking at the GEFS there's only a few members out of 20 that have any snow late next week for DFW
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1024 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:20 pm

It's almost a joke comparing the 10-day GFS upper flow vs. the Euro. GFS now doesn't bring any cold front through SE TX until Monday morning, the 20th (after next week). Euro brings a dry front through (nothing major) next Friday evening. No hint of any precip behind it.

I think at least one of the predicted patterns at 240 hrs below will not verify:

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1025 Postby Brent » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:03 pm

In Lake Tahoe :spam: This is all old snow expecting a couple inches in the morning
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1026 Postby mcallum177 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:44 pm

I know this is fantasy land but the 12z GEFS members 10,12,13,15,18,20 seems like an excessive amount of ice across Texas if it were to actually occur.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1027 Postby weatherdude1108 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:17 pm

Time to break out the snow plows around Austin! :froze:

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1028 Postby harp » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:24 pm

weatherdude1108 wrote:Time to break out the snow plows around Austin! :froze:

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2020010812/gfs_asnowd_scus_65.png

South Louisiana gets nothing! Arrgghhh!!!! :eek: :eek:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1029 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:44 pm

Something to note from the 12 Z. Although it is 384 hours out, people in Southeast Texas should take note with this pattern. It is arguably the best pattern we could have for us to receive snow.

And upper level low digging south of the big Ben region and swinging through exactly like it does on the 12 Z, there is some more to the Christmas eve miracle from 2004.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1030 Postby BTAYLOR5021 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:39 pm

My weather app has snow for Dallas This sat. Morning. Is this a possibility? Temps are also starting to trend downward for next week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1031 Postby Cerlin » Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:49 pm

BTAYLOR5021 wrote:My weather app has snow for Dallas This sat. Morning. Is this a possibility? Temps are also starting to trend downward for next week.

I mean it’s a possibility yes but the models are going to have to start showing it more to gain any confidence in it. If anything it’s wrap around flakes that build up on the roof.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1032 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:03 pm

18z 3km NAM is scary for DFW on Friday, much further west development, and later. Instability is meager but sufficient, and the atmosphere is uncapped by about 2pm. SRH values around 400 m2/s2 as a 1002mb surface low develops and tracks over DFW. Would not sleep on this.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1033 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:14 pm

Models are converging on a potentially big time rain event for DFW, could see widespread 3-5". This goes with an increasing svr wx threat, esp. if isolated cells fire along the dryline west of DFW early Friday afternoon.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1034 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:34 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Models are converging on a potentially big time rain event for DFW, could see widespread 3-5". This goes with an increasing svr wx threat, esp. if isolated cells fire along the dryline west of DFW early Friday afternoon.


Looking better for south central Texas as well! Most models appear to be trending towards the slower and deeper Euro. Don't forget about us DFW friends! We need rain...even more than yall do. SA finished with a 10+ inch rainfall deficit in 2019. Hoping for a much wetter year in 2020!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1035 Postby Brent » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:42 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Models are converging on a potentially big time rain event for DFW, could see widespread 3-5". This goes with an increasing svr wx threat, esp. if isolated cells fire along the dryline west of DFW early Friday afternoon.


Of course it'll be the day I fly back :lol:

Under a winter wx advisory here for 1-3 inches of snow btw :froze: I was walking through a park today and the snow was deeper than my shoes several times
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1036 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:49 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Models are converging on a potentially big time rain event for DFW, could see widespread 3-5". This goes with an increasing svr wx threat, esp. if isolated cells fire along the dryline west of DFW early Friday afternoon.


Looking better for south central Texas as well! Most models appear to be trending towards the slower and deeper Euro. Don't forget about us DFW friends! We need rain...even more than yall do. SA finished with a 10+ inch rainfall deficit in 2019. Hoping for a much wetter year in 2020!


We just like to complain up here in DFW lol

We are actually doing pretty good compared to other areas.

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1037 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:50 pm

Brent wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Models are converging on a potentially big time rain event for DFW, could see widespread 3-5". This goes with an increasing svr wx threat, esp. if isolated cells fire along the dryline west of DFW early Friday afternoon.


Of course it'll be the day I fly back :lol:


Under a winter wx advisory here for 1-3 inches of snow btw :froze: I was walking through a park today and the snow was deeper than my shoes several times


That will be a bumpy ride!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1038 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:05 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Models are converging on a potentially big time rain event for DFW, could see widespread 3-5". This goes with an increasing svr wx threat, esp. if isolated cells fire along the dryline west of DFW early Friday afternoon.


Looking better for south central Texas as well! Most models appear to be trending towards the slower and deeper Euro. Don't forget about us DFW friends! We need rain...even more than yall do. SA finished with a 10+ inch rainfall deficit in 2019. Hoping for a much wetter year in 2020!


I think the SPC could shift the severe threat further west and possibly even a bit more south by what I’m seeing on the models.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1039 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:08 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#1040 Postby TheProfessor » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:17 pm

I think the East Texas folks(and maybe just north of Houston) really need to be on guard for Friday. If you get any surface based storms to pop up ahead of MCS it could get really bad really quick.
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