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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1041 Postby gpsnowman » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:26 pm

To (mis)quote Desi Arnez from I Love Lucy, "Lucy, go home!" Man I hope the models rebound after a bad Saturday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1042 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:30 pm

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Yukon Cornelius wrote:http://i67.tinypic.com/2a60axl.jpg
I couldn't resist with all of the cold air being pulled from runs.

To (mis)quote Desi Arnez from I Love Lucy, "Lucy, go home!" Man I hope the models rebound after a bad Saturday.

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1043 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:36 pm

Well at least the CPC is giving us some hope. Has above normal rain chances and below normal temps for both the 6-10 day and 10-14.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1044 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:45 pm

We jinxed it talking about 1983 :roflmao: record warmth ahead for Christmas! :wink:
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1045 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:48 pm

Christmas still looks chilly but there's time for that to change. Absolutely nothing more depressing than Christmas being 70 or warmer plus or minus a couple days.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1046 Postby aggiecutter » Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:32 pm

Pattern recognition: Watch-out the NE 1/4 of Texas for something coming out the northern GOM the next week to 10 days. Storms love to form and travel a long strong temperature gradients. I give this a 9 out of a 10 confidence level.

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1047 Postby orangeblood » Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:39 pm

Euro Ensembles trending much colder for next weekend into early next week...in the 7-14 day range, best tool available. Source region of air projected for next weekend is currently sitting over Northern Russia in the -40 to -50 deg C range, I would expect this downward trend to continue

Edit: New 12Z GFS Para is in....has DFW and Austin not getting above freezing next Monday

Lows that following morning...
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1048 Postby gpsnowman » Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:57 pm

:uarrow: Ok some good news. I always enjoy the faith in Orangeblood. When things look bleak the insight and maps come out. Things will look different tomorrow I'm sure. One thing I do not want is another warm and humid Christmas day. That led to bad things on the 26th last year.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1049 Postby starsfan65 » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:03 pm

gpsnowman wrote::uarrow: Ok some good news. I always enjoy the faith in Orangeblood. When things look bleak the insight and maps come out. Things will look different tomorrow I'm sure. One thing I do not want is another warm and humid Christmas day. That led to bad things on the 26th last year.
i remember those tornadoes on that day that hit Garland and Rowlett. I don't want to relive all over again.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1050 Postby dhweather » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:27 pm

starsfan65 wrote:
gpsnowman wrote::uarrow: Ok some good news. I always enjoy the faith in Orangeblood. When things look bleak the insight and maps come out. Things will look different tomorrow I'm sure. One thing I do not want is another warm and humid Christmas day. That led to bad things on the 26th last year.
i remember those tornadoes on that day that hit Garland and Rowlett. I don't want to relive all over again.


Moisture + shear + lift + instability all lined up correctly that day. I still vividly remember seeing that tornado (from Rockwall) as it tore through Garland/Rowlett.

Great writeup from FWD on that day here http://www.weather.gov/fwd/dec26tornadoes#Environment
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1051 Postby dhweather » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:29 pm

The December 26, 2015 18Z sounding - CAPE of 2878 very unusual for December.

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1052 Postby TheProfessor » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:04 pm

dhweather wrote:The December 26, 2015 18Z sounding - CAPE of 2878 very unusual for December.

http://www.weather.gov/images/fwd/dec26 ... notate.png


Yep, Hodograph could have looked better(That's a good thing) The Skew-t shows a loaded gun, which is typically a sign for bad weather, especially without a CAP
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1053 Postby starsfan65 » Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:30 pm

All quiet in here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1054 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:34 pm

It's the weekend
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1055 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:36 pm

I love winter but man I'm looking forward to that 70 tomorrow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1056 Postby aggiecutter » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:58 pm

Ryan Maue liked
Eric Carpenter ‏@eric_carpenter Dec 9
@RyanMaue that will be some kind of baroclinic zone, the cold will be secondary to the winter precip potential
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1057 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:05 pm

so uh did anyone see the 12z CMC? I wouldn't care if it ever snowed again if this verified... that is a foot on the south side of DFW :lol:

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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1058 Postby South Texas Storms » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:06 pm

There's a lot of uncertainty in the extended range as the models are having some difficulties resolving a potential pattern change across the NE Pacific. Hopefully we will have an idea of what our Christmas weather will be like by late in the upcoming work week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1059 Postby TheProfessor » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:22 pm

Brent wrote:so uh did anyone see the 12z CMC? I wouldn't care if it ever snowed again if this verified... that is a foot on the south side of DFW :lol:
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis ... cus_40.png


That would be awesome, I'm fairly certain I've said this before, but there's nothing like getting snow in the place you grew up, it's not the same when you get snow in other places(Although I still love it when it snow here in Cbus). I would love to see that run continue, that convection in the GoM would likely produce a Gulf Low, Combine that with a 1046 HP pushing South and someone from Ohio Eastward is gonna be super happy.
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Re: Texas Winter 2016-2017

#1060 Postby Brent » Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:16 am

Tropical Tidbits is not working but looking at the GFS on the awful NCEP maps the Christmas Eve storm looks REAL interesting this run. Cold high over Colorado and lots of precip and its definitely close in DFW

Edit: Most of the precip is rain but the snow line isn't far away in most of it. Maybe some light snow at the end of it on Christmas Eve.

It actually has another storm a couple days earlier that is warmer, but a very active pattern showing up at the least.

Here's the snowy frame:

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