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#1221 Postby andycottle » Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:44 am

That storm also had some REAL nice booming thunder to! -- Andy
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#1222 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:24 am

Snow_Wizzard... At the deepest point on Sunday morning I see onshore flow at 850mb with a temperature of -6C. Notice that the GFS is starting its moderation. At its coldest point (Sunday night)... I see onshore flow at 850mb and a temperature of -9C but with no precipitation.

The snow levels will be quite low on Sunday morning... but this is not a widepread lowland event. And the 06Z run of the GFS continues to bring the high pressure ruight back in again.

Here is the end of next week...

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#1223 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:29 am

Not that they are always accurate... but the Seattle NWS is not even forecasting the the temperature to go below freezing at any time in the next week in the Puget Sound area.

Not even on Sunday. "Low in the mid-30's. Highs in the mid-40's".
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#1224 Postby R-Dub » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:29 am

I have also loved weather all my life, I was (am) almost obessive about it. When there is a big storm (snow or wind, or thunder) that is my main focus, nothing else. I can't sleep at all if its going on at night, I just spend the night constantly looking out the window :lol:
That was my big deciding factor for working outside, my mom worked at a rare plant nursary for many yrs, so I helped her out, and so over time I got to know landscaping, plant managment ect. So I thought working at a golf course was the perfect thing. 7yrs later I am the Assistant Superintendent there, and loving it! Not only being out in the weather (I watch the sunrise every single morning) but our entire schedule there is almost weather dependent.

TT that is why I need a freeze to stop the grass from growing temporarly, I can't hire seasonal people to cut grass for another 4 weeks! I spent almost 10hrs cutting grass yesterday on to of my normal managment duties.........BRING ON THE FROST :lol:
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#1225 Postby andycottle » Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:22 pm

Good late morning you all! A very nice spring-like day out today! Birds chirping, people biking, walking and or jogging on the bike trail. A nice day indeed! Current temp at 11:25am is 54, DP 37, humidity 49%, and baro 30.21 and steady. Seattle NWS satellit shows mainly clear skies over southern half of Western Wa., while up here we have partly cloudy skies. -- Andy
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#1226 Postby cloud9 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:27 pm

The website http://www.weatherwars.info site is back up, also if anyone is interested listening to a prof. met on the weird weather go to http://www.kathleenkeating.com and go to (listen now radio show)
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#1227 Postby andrewr » Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:44 pm

58F here with not a SINGLE cloud in the sky. Looks and feels just like Spring. While I do love winter, this almost makes me want Spring and Summer to come early. TT's right, if it can't be cold and snowy this is definitely the next best thing.
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#1228 Postby andycottle » Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:54 pm

Hey guys! Check out this GOES satellite image of the "contrails". Think there must have been a ship or two just maybe 50 or 100miles off our coast. What do you think? Or could of been just a high flying jet.

PS: A nice 61 degrees here at 12:53pm with just a few clouds. -- Andy

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#1229 Postby AnthonyC » Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:59 pm

A beautiful day!! Almost 60 F with clear conditions...this is insane for the beginning of February. Something has to change, and soon.

At any rate, I've been obsessed with weather since a very young age. The first storm that truly caught my attention was the 1993 Inauguration Day storm. I remember going outside and just sitting in the driveway, watching the trees sway in the wind. That's when my obsession began. Ever since then, my interest increases everyday.

This weekend looks interesting, but nothing extraordinary. There will be no lowland snow...like TT-SEA stated, there's a continued onshore flow and 500 mb heights don't go below 522...which is marginal at best for lowland snow. 850 mb heights are down to -10C which isn't cold enough either. With that said, snow levels could drop to 500-1000 feet by Sunday afternoon, Sunday night. But when the cold air arrives, there's no moisture. Let's just hope for the mountains...our attention should be focused up there. We don't need snow...but the mountains do. With good orographic lift and a strong northwesterly flow...maybe two feet above 3K. That may be high, but at least a foot. Remember, even if the mountains do get two feet...that's still nothing, but at least a good start. After Monday, models really diverge. The latest EMCWF model drops another cold front down the British Columbia coast, reinforcing the cool air and mountain snow...while the GFS moves the amplified ridge off the coast further east until it's parked off the west coast. We'll see...but the EMCWF gets my vote for now because it's handled the entire winter the best.

I guess we can say good-bye to Spring for awhile...temperatures shouldn't exceed 50 F for at least another week...if not longer. But this current weather is ridiculous for the beginning of February.

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#1230 Postby andrewr » Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:28 pm

61F here and nearly 69F in Sammamish! Other amazing temperatures include 62F in Cle Elum and 54F at Stampede Pass.
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#1231 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:12 pm

Wow.

It is 70.2 degrees at my house right now!!! Had a meeting downtown and came across the I-90 bridge over Lake Washington and thought this must be the most beautiful city in the country today. Perfect visibility... clear blue skies... mountains in every direction... windows open and its WARM... green grass and flowers blooming everywhere. And its the dead of winter!!

Incredible. Amazing. Wonderful. What else can I say.

I would not trade a day like this for anything. This is perfection.

Alas... it will change. This weekend will definitely be colder and wetter. But we need snow in the mountains so I am fine with the change. Still... it should bring beneficial rains to the lowlands and continue the greening up of Seattle.

But the 12Z run of the GFS still has us back in beautiful springtime ridging by next Thursday...

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#1232 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:43 pm

The Seattle NWS discussion stated the situation perfectly. Spring is here to stay.

WILL GET SOME SNOW IN THE MOUNTAINS...HOWEVER DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A SITUATION THAT WILL PRODUCE HEAVY AMOUNTS. AFTER THE AFFECTS OF THIS SYSTEM PASS...BACK INTO A MILD RIDGE PATTERN AGAIN FOR NEXT WEEK. THE TROPICAL INFLUENCE CONTINUES. CERNIGLIA

In fact look at the awesome ridge for next Thursday on the 18Z run of the GFS... do I sense a return to 60 degree weather???

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#1233 Postby andycottle » Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:55 pm

Looking at todays GFS models, and after MANY runs in a row now, this weekend still appears to be on the cool and rainy side and highs not getting out of the 40`s. However...6z show a strong ridge of high pressure over us for 13th - 18th..keeping us generally dry. But 12z and 18z are not as strong with that ridge and has a few showers for us during that time frame. -- Andy
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#1234 Postby TT-SEA » Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:57 pm

I don't know... the 18Zrun of the GFS looks pretty warm and dry after this weekend.
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#1235 Postby aveosmth » Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:29 pm

I have a quick question? What do you guys up there consider lowland snow levels? Anything below 1K? 500 ft?

Here in SoCal anything below 1500 is lowland snow out here...earlier this winter our roads were almost paralyzed when the snow level dropped below 1000 ft.
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#1236 Postby R-Dub » Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:37 pm

Anthony, I too really took a interest in weather because of a windstorm! The big Thanksgiving windstorm of 1983! It was such a suprise, I remember just looking at the trees bending and the sound of the wind in amazement. Then the power went out, and my parents cooked the turkey on the BBQ. We were with out power for 4 days here. A LOT less people lived in my area, and MANY MANY more trees. Plus the power crew had to get the southern part of snohomish co up and running first with higher populations.

Truly a summer day 8-) 8-)

2/2/05 LK Goodwin WA
3:35:32 PM CURRENT
Sunny
Temperature (ºF) 60.8
Humidity (%) 50.6
Wind (mph) S 1.5
Daily Rain (") 0.00
Pressure ("Hg) 30.38
Dew Point: 41.6 ºF
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#1237 Postby W13 » Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:48 pm

Currently 63 F (after a official high of 64 F so far), as of 3:48 PM
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#1238 Postby AnthonyC » Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:50 pm

Today is what mid-May should look like. Unbelievable stuff.

At any rate, latest models/weather discussions continue the trend of a wetter/cooler weekend and early next week, but another ridge taking over late next week and next weekend. What ever happened to the zonal flows we use to get? That would be the perfect pattern for the mountains, yet we can't seem to get such a setup. Still nothing close to arctic air for this weekend...afternoon highs in the lower, middle 40s overnight lows in the mid 30s.

Hopefully the mountains can manage 2 feet this weekend and early next week. Then maybe at least one pass can open. If not, they'll continue to watch the winter dwindle away...

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#1239 Postby R-Dub » Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:50 pm

Golf course was packed with golfers today, and I was down to my short sleeves, and still sweating while trying to help get the grass mowed!! ITS GROWING LIKE CRAZY!! INSANE!!! If this weather was going to keep up a few more days, I would have dewinterized my jetski, and had some fun on the lake.

Think I will BBQ some hamburgers this evening though 8-)
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#1240 Postby R-Dub » Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:53 pm

aveosmith.........I consider anything below 1k feet to be lowlands for Western WA. I sit at 500FT where I live, and that really helps out when we have a marginal snow event, that is for sure.
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