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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1441 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:31 pm

Golfisnteasy7575 wrote:
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Looking far out (days 9-10) there definitely appears to be consensus about energy in the southwest when you look at the 500mb patterns in both the GFS and Euro. The GFS breaks off the low off the Baja coastline while the Euro has it associated with the long wave trough over the middle two-thirds of the CONUS. The GFS having the energy pressed down by developing Pacific NW high pressure and then backing it off the West Coast seems implausible. You just don't see that happen very often. Also, I have seen the ICON do a good job in the last year in different seasons. I'm watching that closely along with the ensembles.


To add we've only had this Baja dip low set up within the past 24 hours of runs, so it's fairly a new feature having PVa streamer come down to kick it out. CMC doesn't yet have that and cuts off the baja low deep into Mexico.

I've been saying this for a while. Get trough further west, we be in better shape imo. Also, like you alluded to, mjo is important. I would like to see a small propagation, if possible to extend winter as long as possible.


Any more to the west and the folks to the east will melt :lol:.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1442 Postby rwfromkansas » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:38 pm

I’ve only paid a little attention and I just realized there may be a snowstorm in Kansas when we are driving back south this Sunday after my extended family Christmas up there Saturday. I have school PD Monday so that could be a problem.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1443 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:39 pm

Ntxw wrote:
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To add we've only had this Baja dip low set up within the past 24 hours of runs, so it's fairly a new feature having PVa streamer come down to kick it out. CMC doesn't yet have that and cuts off the baja low deep into Mexico.

I've been saying this for a while. Get trough further west, we be in better shape imo. Also, like you alluded to, mjo is important. I would like to see a small propagation, if possible to extend winter as long as possible.


Any more to the west and the folks to the east will melt :lol:.


There's already been a few meltdowns that I've seen in one place :lol:

They really thought they had it but it's all been beyond day 10

I mean I'm not convinced yet but the globals have been better for us than them since yesterday and their ensemble mean has dropped somewhat

It's something to watch for sure. Ever since the icon last night it's been in the back of my mind
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1444 Postby Golfisnteasy7575 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:46 pm

Ntxw wrote:
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To add we've only had this Baja dip low set up within the past 24 hours of runs, so it's fairly a new feature having PVa streamer come down to kick it out. CMC doesn't yet have that and cuts off the baja low deep into Mexico.

I've been saying this for a while. Get trough further west, we be in better shape imo. Also, like you alluded to, mjo is important. I would like to see a small propagation, if possible to extend winter as long as possible.


Any more to the west and the folks to the east will melt :lol:.

Every man for himself/herself when it comes to snow and ice around here :grrr:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1445 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:46 pm

Brent wrote:
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Golfisnteasy7575 wrote:I've been saying this for a while. Get trough further west, we be in better shape imo. Also, like you alluded to, mjo is important. I would like to see a small propagation, if possible to extend winter as long as possible.


Any more to the west and the folks to the east will melt :lol:.


There's already been a few meltdowns that I've seen in one place :lol:

They really thought they had it but it's all been beyond day 10

I mean I'm not convinced yet but the globals have been better for us than them since yesterday and their ensemble mean has dropped somewhat

It's something to watch for sure. Ever since the icon last night it's been in the back of my mind


The cold is nice but rather have the snow. There's likely many disturbances riding the mean base of the trough models may whiff on this far out. I'd look for those higher ratio snows up north.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1446 Postby Golfisnteasy7575 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:48 pm

Brent wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Golfisnteasy7575 wrote:I've been saying this for a while. Get trough further west, we be in better shape imo. Also, like you alluded to, mjo is important. I would like to see a small propagation, if possible to extend winter as long as possible.


Any more to the west and the folks to the east will melt :lol:.


There's already been a few meltdowns that I've seen in one place :lol:

They really thought they had it but it's all been beyond day 10

I mean I'm not convinced yet but the globals have been better for us than them since yesterday and their ensemble mean has dropped somewhat

It's something to watch for sure. Ever since the icon last night it's been in the back of my mind

Any shift south, you will get pounded this weekend imo.
This is probably not our system, unfortunately for winter weather
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1447 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:51 pm

Golfisnteasy7575 wrote:
Brent wrote:
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Any more to the west and the folks to the east will melt :lol:.


There's already been a few meltdowns that I've seen in one place :lol:

They really thought they had it but it's all been beyond day 10

I mean I'm not convinced yet but the globals have been better for us than them since yesterday and their ensemble mean has dropped somewhat

It's something to watch for sure. Ever since the icon last night it's been in the back of my mind

Any shift south, you will get pounded this weekend imo.
This is probably not our system, unfortunately for winter weather


Prime time will be late Jan and early February. Roll analogs/MJO forward and you are almost sure to bet a big GOA ridge poking northward and deep cold over west-central Canada. The bitter cold is more likely in that time frame imo as we head to -PNA. It's delayed Nina response.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1448 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:53 pm

Golfisnteasy7575 wrote:
Brent wrote:
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Any more to the west and the folks to the east will melt :lol:.


There's already been a few meltdowns that I've seen in one place :lol:

They really thought they had it but it's all been beyond day 10

I mean I'm not convinced yet but the globals have been better for us than them since yesterday and their ensemble mean has dropped somewhat

It's something to watch for sure. Ever since the icon last night it's been in the back of my mind

Any shift south, you will get pounded this weekend imo.
This is probably not our system, unfortunately for winter weather


Yeah I'm very curious to see how Sunday trends here. I mean it's been years since we've had a good trend inside 5 days so this will be a huge test

And I think a big part of what happens Sunday will decide what happens with the second storm the Euro is honking

But yeah I don't really think Sunday is gonna be the big storm we're overdue for probably. Most likely something like January where it's just a dusting to an inch or so
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1449 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 30, 2024 2:59 pm

Brent wrote:But yeah I don't really think Sunday is gonna be the big storm we're overdue for probably. Most likely something like January where it's just a dusting to an inch or so


Nickel and dime your way to 8-9" average!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1450 Postby Golfisnteasy7575 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:01 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:But yeah I don't really think Sunday is gonna be the big storm we're overdue for probably. Most likely something like January where it's just a dusting to an inch or so


Nickel and dime your way to 8-9" average!

It's 4-5 here :grrr:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1451 Postby Ivanhater » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:05 pm

I'll take the 12z Euro ensemble mean everyday and twice on Sunday please :ggreen:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1452 Postby Portastorm » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:16 pm

88°at 2 pm at Camp Mabry here in Austin ... I see low 80s in the Metroplex. And here we are, talking about winter weather perhaps a little more than a week away.

Texas weather never fails to entertain. :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1453 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:19 pm

FW taking the bait. :lol:

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1454 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:27 pm

The CPC is still favored east but I swear the colors have gotten darker :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1455 Postby weatherdude1108 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:26 pm

I was a kid in San Antonio during the 1985 storm. It was in the upper 20s to around 30. Not too cold. Perfect! Got out of school for several days.

https://youtu.be/JGJAsDrA7YI?si=nTHlduCTKTFydkh_

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1456 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:52 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1457 Postby nathanc1969 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:54 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1458 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:01 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1459 Postby iorange55 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:02 pm

Back from Los Angeles, and now living in Austin! Here’s to hoping we get a little taste of winter weather next month.

Feels good to have something to discuss again.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1460 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:07 pm


Man, that’s a map I can get behind. Personally I’d like to see that >10” swath in central tx continue another 100 miles east, but hey, beggars can’t be choosers and 4-6” is better than 99% of storms I’ve seen in dfw. Would be nice to see something like that play out where most of Texas cashes in, but I won’t hold my breath yet.

I am a little concerned that coastal low formation would steal much of the moisture across the northern half of the state and Oklahoma if this setup does play out, but hopefully there will be enough left for higher ratios in the deeper cold air here as others have mentioned. No point in getting worked up on it for now but hard not to speculate for entertainment.
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