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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1541 Postby orangeblood » Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:44 am

No storm on 12z ICON, phases the S/W wave too quickly with Polar Jet. Good example of just how critical timing is going to be with this system and just way too far out to have any idea how this will play out.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1542 Postby wxman57 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:04 am

orangeblood wrote:No storm on 12z ICON, phases the S/W wave too quickly with Polar Jet. Good example of just how critical timing is going to be with this system and just way too far out to have any idea how this will play out.


Note that the 12Z ICON does have a short wave over the Pac NW states next Tuesday evening. Perhaps it's only slower with its movement to Texas? It's almost pointless looking at models this far out. Wait for Sunday for more confidence, once we see what kind of air we'll be dealing with.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1543 Postby wxman22 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:06 am

Technically the storm is there it just keeps the snow mainly in the panhandle. Before shearing the energy.

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1544 Postby iorange55 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:11 am

wxman57 wrote:
orangeblood wrote:No storm on 12z ICON, phases the S/W wave too quickly with Polar Jet. Good example of just how critical timing is going to be with this system and just way too far out to have any idea how this will play out.


Note that the 12Z ICON does have a short wave over the Pac NW states next Tuesday evening. Perhaps it's only slower with its movement to Texas? It's almost pointless looking at models this far out. Wait for Sunday for more confidence, once we see what kind of air we'll be dealing with.


wxman57 with an almost reassuring take on winter weather? Times are changing.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1545 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:14 am

iorange55 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
orangeblood wrote:No storm on 12z ICON, phases the S/W wave too quickly with Polar Jet. Good example of just how critical timing is going to be with this system and just way too far out to have any idea how this will play out.


Note that the 12Z ICON does have a short wave over the Pac NW states next Tuesday evening. Perhaps it's only slower with its movement to Texas? It's almost pointless looking at models this far out. Wait for Sunday for more confidence, once we see what kind of air we'll be dealing with.


wxman57 with an almost reassuring take on winter weather? Times are changing.


I sent him the Super Reliant 5000 Deluxe Propane Heater. Guaranteed to heat up a small village to 90 degree temperatures for a week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1546 Postby Brent » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:18 am

:double: :eek: :cold: :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1547 Postby wxman22 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:28 am

LOL if the trend in the GFS continues maybe we will get some backside flurries up here with Sundays storm. :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1548 Postby Brent » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:32 am

wxman22 wrote:LOL if the trend in the GFS continues maybe we will get some backside flurries up here with Sundays storm. :spam:


I about fell out of the chair. 20 inches in Joplin :lol: :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1549 Postby Stratton23 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:35 am

GFS gives se Texas 6-8 inches of snow, lock that in baby!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1550 Postby gboudx » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:35 am

From jeff:

Arctic air intrusion into much of the US east of the Rockies early next week.

Upper air pattern is currently transitioning to allow dense cold arctic air over northern Siberia to cross the north pole and enter NW Canada late this week and this weekend and then plunge southward into the US late this weekend into early next week. Forecast models have generally come into some agreement that the upcoming pattern will bring sustained colder than normal temperatures to much of the central and eastern US including Texas by the first week of January. In addition, the pattern aloft tends to favor a least some degree of potential for upper air disturbances to cross over the southern plains within the cold air mass and produce winter precipitation.

Initial surge of cold air will arrive in NW TX late Sunday and then quickly spread to the coast by Monday morning. Think the ICON has the best handle on the quick surge of the cold air as these shallow dense air masses tend to move faster than guidance suggests and usually come in colder. All of SE TX should be post front within the colder air mass on Monday and temperatures may end up falling into much of the day into the 40’s and 50’s under gusty northerly winds. A line of showers and thunderstorms will likely accompany the front. This initial surge does not currently look overly strong with lows around freezing into mid next week and highs in the 40’s and 50’s as it appears the brunt of the coldest air passes east of TX toward the MS valley and the mid south. With that said…we are talking about a week out and should a trajectory move down the plains evolve this will bring colder air toward TX with colder temperatures…so this will be something to watch in the guidance trends over the next several days.

Guidance is also hinting off and on that energy will hang back in the trough to the southwest of Texas allowing moisture to funnel over top of the cold surface air. This starts to raise some question on winter precipitation chances in the mid to late week period for next week. For now it is too far out and uncertain to really have much of an idea what we could be dealing with (rain, snow, freezing rain, sleet) as temperature profiles and moisture amounts are unclear.

What we know:

Colder below normal temperatures will arrive over the area starting late Sunday into Monday and remain in place all of next week and potentially longer.
Freezes (upper 20’s and low 30’s) are possible for much of the area as early as Tuesday morning of next week

What we don’t know:

Exactly how cold the incoming air mass will be and if additional surges of cold air later in the week lower temperatures more than currently expected
What if any type of precipitation may occur within the cold air and what if any impacts may result
How long the colder air mass will remain in place

Best course of action at this point is to monitor forecasts daily for trends and changes and have cold weather winterization supplies available if needed next week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1551 Postby JDawg512 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:41 am

I like that overnight Euro with all the dark green, yellow and darker spots over the Austin area. You know I like my H2O in liquid form...
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1552 Postby Stratton23 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:46 am

GFS really keeps the arctic air coming, another round right after the one that brings the snow with it, thats a cold run, give me that snow run and ill be happy!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1553 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:53 am

Just crazy how the YouTube mets are all over the place with this. Some concentrate the storms on a Southerly track after Storm 1, and others don't even mention the south except for rain...as if the arctic blast won't make it down this far. My favorite was "No models show this but....I PERSONALLY think this is going to take a far northerly track". :roll:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1554 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:53 am

Stratton23 wrote:GFS really keeps the arctic air coming, another round right after the one that brings the snow with it, thats a cold run, give me that snow run and ill be happy!


Lock it in. 7 inches at my place in Colorado County!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1555 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:58 am

For me, I proceed with caution. So many variables and so many factors involved. I think Wxman 57 is right. Sunday will be the day to really start to pay attention to the models. I am not trying to be a killjoy.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1556 Postby Brent » Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:01 pm

Tireman4 wrote:For me, I proceed with caution. So many variables and so many factors involved. I think Wxman 57 is right. Sunday will be the day to really start to pay attention to the models. I am not trying to be a killjoy.


Oh trust me I haven't forgotten the last two winters here when it fell apart in the final day...
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1557 Postby orangeblood » Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:05 pm

Canadian turns the Texas storm into a southern Cali storm :lol:

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1558 Postby Portastorm » Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:08 pm

:uarrow:

Well that's what the GFS was doing yesterday with that vorticity. Interesting to see the Canadian come alongside.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1559 Postby mpic » Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:09 pm

Never thought I'd be here looking at the possiblity of freezing after just dodging a tornado by a mile. Generator is ready and pipes covered.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#1560 Postby Stratton23 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:12 pm

Yeah i dont see that canadian verifying lol
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