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#1641 Postby TT-SEA » Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:16 pm

BTW - amazing agreement between the ECMWF and the GFS for the next week. Actually its a little strange to see such agreement.
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#1642 Postby snow_wizzard » Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:49 pm

I am already getting excited about next weekend. This ECMWF 850mb temp / surface pressure map at day 7 shows our next opportunity for some real winter. As TT stated the GFS show something very similar. Did I just agree with TT???? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

http://weather.cod.edu/forecast/ECMWF/e ... mp_168.gif

I like the fact that we are going to have some chilly weather over the next few days also. A below normal feb?
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#1643 Postby TT-SEA » Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:55 pm

I am afraid our agreement stops at the fact that the models agree.

After the bust this weekend... how can you be excited about a pattern next weekend that is much less promising.
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#1644 Postby andrewr » Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:57 pm

All right, TT thinks next week will be warm (at least the end of the week, I'm not sure about the middle) and snow_wizzard thinks it will be cooler. This looks like another showdown.
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#1645 Postby snow_wizzard » Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:58 pm

R-Dub...It will be select areas that will get down to 20 - 25. Those would be some areas in the NW interior, the valleys near and in the foothills, and areas near Olympia. Many places will be more like 27 - 31.
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#1646 Postby R-Dub » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:02 pm

snow_wizzard wrote:R-Dub...It will be select areas that will get down to 20 - 25. Those would be some areas in the NW interior, the valleys near and in the foothills, and areas near Olympia. Many places will be more like 27 - 31.


How low do you think I will go Snowwiz?

WOW finally an exciting Super Bowl!! I don't care who wins, but after the "sharpie" incedent at where else......SEATTLE, I have really disliked T.O.
Go Eagles!!
EDIT.........OOPS I meant to say go New England!

Currently 34.7 degrees and still a mixed bag falling here. :eek:
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#1647 Postby TT-SEA » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:04 pm

No showdown...

I agree there will be some frost around early this week. Nice days... cool nights.

Thursday and Friday should be warmer with no frost anywhere and really pleasant days.

Next weekend will be marginally wet and cool (particularly Saturday) but still highs in the upper 40's. Good mountain snow though.
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#1648 Postby andrewr » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:06 pm

Considering Olympia during the last "cold spell" only got down to around the upper teens, I'm going to have to say warmer than that and if the clouds don't clear in time then much warmer. I'll say the coldest temps will be around 27 tonight.
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#1649 Postby snow_wizzard » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:13 pm

TT...You should know by now that I am very stubborn glutton for punishment. I just know that this weather is on the edge of doing something good. Historically speaking, this winter has fulfulled the requirements for us to expect a really good cold spell.
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#1650 Postby snow_wizzard » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:16 pm

Just to clarify...the really cold lows won't be until tomorrow night. R-Dub...I would expect you could go down to 25 or so, tomorrow night.
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#1651 Postby R-Dub » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:26 pm

snow_wizzard wrote:Just to clarify...the really cold lows won't be until tomorrow night. R-Dub...I would expect you could go down to 25 or so, tomorrow night.


That would still do the trick to get the grass to slow down!
Hope it happens. 8-)
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#1652 Postby R-Dub » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:28 pm

Todays NCEP extended outlooks.........

6-10 Day-Below normal temps and precip
8-14 Day-Below normal temps and precip

Wonder what the 00z GFS will have to say?
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#1653 Postby TT-SEA » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:30 pm

There is no human input on the NCEP long range forecasts produced on the weekend.

They are truly garbage.

Even the ones with human input are shaky at best. The weekend forecasts are a joke.
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#1654 Postby R-Dub » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:40 pm

TT-SEA wrote:There is no human input on the NCEP long range forecasts produced on the weekend.

They are truly garbage.

Even the ones with human input are shaky at best. The weekend forecasts are a joke.


I won't argue with that one.

Temp still slowly dropping, down to 33.9 degrees with still a light mixed slush falling from the sky.
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#1655 Postby R-Dub » Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:06 pm

Blaine and Lynden have warmed up rapidly with a switch from a NE wind to a SE wind.
I am auctually a degree or two cooler then they are!
Temp here is 34.2 degrees.
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#1656 Postby R-Dub » Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:10 pm

Also Precip has really started to decrease on the last couple of frames of the the radar.
Its dry here for the first time since 7:00AM this morning!! It was non stop mixed precip all day!
Definately a winter day today!!
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#1657 Postby R-Dub » Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:57 pm

Everyone must be stuffed full of chips, beer, and are passed out in front of the TV :lol: Its quiet here tonight!!

I really like this sentence from the latest NWS forecast.........." MON AND TUE NITE SHUD BE RATHER FROSTY AND OUR CURRENT FCST MAY BE A COUPLE DEGREES TOO WARM."
That should slow up the grass a little 8-)


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA 845 PM PST SUN FEB 6 2005

.SYNOPSIS...A LOW PRESSURE CENTERED NEAR ASTORIA THIS EVENING IS DRIFTING SOUTH AND DISSIPATING. THE REGION WILL BE UNDER WEAK HIGH PRESSURE AND LIGHT OFFSHORE FLOW TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. WEAK FRONTS WILL GIVE CLOUDS AND A CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION STARTING FRIDAY. &&

.DISCUSSION...SHOWERS WILL BE OVER WITH BY MIDNITE SO CUT THE POPS AND REWORDED THE ZONES. WILL TAKE AWHILE TO GET RID OF THE LOW LVL MOISTURE HOWEVER...AND OUR TEMP FORECASTS MAY BE SEVERAL DEGREES TOO COOL TONIGHT. MON AND TUE NITE SHUD BE RATHER FROSTY AND OUR CURRENT FCST MAY BE A COUPLE DEGREES TOO WARM. BUT CERTAINLY DRY FOR MOST OF THE WEEK AHEAD.
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#1658 Postby andycottle » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:40 am

Hi folks...Tim, Anthony, snow-wizzard, Randy, and the rest. Just wanting to let you all know that I didn`t dissapear off this board. lol. Seriously though. I`m still here and will post more often. Didn`t post over last couple days because of some BAD computer problems. Anyway...I am here!:) -- Andy
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#1659 Postby AnthonyC » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:43 am

Superbowl was AWESOME!!!

In any event, next week looks very interesting...latest 850 mb heights are almost down to -20C. Of course it's still seven days away, but at least the hope of winter isn't lost. Today was interesting...a variety of weather. We never switched to pure, wet snow but the mix bag was awesome to watch!! Well, I'm tired!! Got 0 period tomorrow morning at 6:15am so I better go to bed. Goodnite to all!!

Anthony
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#1660 Postby TT-SEA » Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:27 am

Anthony... you have to be AT school by 6:15 a.m.? Thats insane.

I am not sure what model you are looking at but 850 mb temps of -20C would be just as insane. The GFS shows about -6C one week from now... and that will probably be very wrong.

BTW - this is a good lesson here... the GFS originally had 850 mb forecasted temps of -12C or colder for today (earlier this week). I said that the reality would be much warmer. This afternoon the actual 850 mb temperature was approximately -3C.

FOR ALL ON THIS THREAD - DO NOT LOOK AT GFS FORECASTED 850 MB TEMPS BEYOND 2 DAYS FOR WESTERN WASHINGTON. THE MODEL DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE OLYMPIC OR CASCADE MOUNTAINS
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