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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1681 Postby spencer817 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:35 pm

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Brent wrote:lol temps above normal in Kansas at 210

I hope this is a bad run.

yea sure is disappointing
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1682 Postby spencer817 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:36 pm

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Brent wrote:lol temps above normal in Kansas at 210

I hope this is a bad run.

yea sure is disappointing

-35 in canada this run, 10 degrees colder than last run, maybe its still having trouble, this is still beyond 7 days
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1683 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:37 pm

some cold is dropping south Christmas Eve at least
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1684 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:37 pm

Brent wrote:I wonder if this is the "lose the cold" GFS phase :lol:

I personally believe it is. The GFS does this all the time at this range.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1685 Postby starsfan65 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:38 pm

Brent wrote:some cold is dropping south Christmas Eve at least
We are still beyond 7 days. It will come back.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1686 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:39 pm

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starsfan65 wrote:I hope this is a bad run.

yea sure is disappointing

-35 in canada this run, 10 degrees colder than last run, maybe its still having trouble, this is still beyond 7 days



If you remember back to when Christmas first came into the model runs, the real cold didn’t come until late Christmas Eve then Christmas Day.

1052 High coming down the Rockies
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1687 Postby BTAYLOR5021 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:39 pm

Also Febuary 1989 was extremely cold. ..about 4-5 days below freezing similar to Feb 1985 Feb 1996 Feb 2011
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1688 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:41 pm

yep arctic front passes DFW Christmas Eve afternoon
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1689 Postby starsfan65 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:42 pm

Brent wrote:yep arctic front passes DFW Christmas Eve afternoon
Maybe the cold air will be delayed by a day.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1690 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:42 pm

This run of the GFS is more of a +PNAish run similar to a few runs back vs poleward Alaskan. Doesn't jive with ENS. Weak SE ridge this run
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1691 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:43 pm

Brent wrote:yep arctic front passes DFW Christmas Eve afternoon


And there it is.. the progressive positive tilt scenario that drives colder air into Texas. Everyone below freezing minus the precip
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1692 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:43 pm

Sure does look like an off run from the GFS. Such a big shift from prior runs and also doesn't have much support from its ensembles and other models.

Canadian looks a lot more like the Euro now in showing a possible winter storm in about 10 days.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1693 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:45 pm

now the cold is east based LOL heck DFW hits 50 the day after Christmas

this run is totally opposite of the last many

at the end of the run what cold?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1694 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:46 pm

Ntxw wrote:This run of the GFS is more of a +PNAish run similar to a few runs back vs poleward Alaskan. Doesn't jive with ENS. Weak SE ridge this run

Yeah, the SE ridge isn’t really there this run.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1695 Postby Ralph's Weather » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:54 pm

We are still solidly in the range where the op runs will have much variance. You will drive yourself crazy if you flip flop your expectations with each op run for days on end. Teleconnections and ensembles support more of a neutral to negative PNA.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1696 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:56 pm

Winter cancel :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1697 Postby TexasBreeze » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:58 pm

Can't play around with this model past 120 hrs or so. Fantasy land it is what it is...
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1698 Postby starsfan65 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:04 am

Yukon Cornelius wrote:Winter cancel :D
Winter is not Canceled!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1699 Postby Ralph's Weather » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:04 am

Ensembles of all three globals are solidly -PNA.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1700 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:10 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:We are still solidly in the range where the op runs will have much variance. You will drive yourself crazy if you flip flop your expectations with each op run for days on end. Teleconnections and ensembles support more of a neutral to negative PNA.


Its not terribly off course. Its just the run wants to move things quickly instead of pouring the cold into the deep western trough. Progressive.
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