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Re: It's -30F outside right now.

#21 Postby Scott Patterson » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:25 pm

I would never live in a place that got that cold. It isn't fit for humanity.


It get's cold here, but on the bright side we never have tornadoes, hurricanes, or summer humidity. Only along the river could their ever be a flood and we're far enough away from it. Safety wise, other than winter driving, our weather isn't too dangerous, just annoyingly cold at times.

We also have a low crime rate and no traffic (I saw three cars at a stop light before, but that's rare), so there are advantages to living in the icebox boonies. We also have elk, deer, and sqirrels in the yard all the time and it's kind of nice.
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Re: It's -30F outside right now.

#22 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:55 pm

I am curious as to what a subzero temperature might feel like. The coldest
I have experienced here in saint petersburg was around freezing in January
2003 and a few other times usually once a year.

The coldest I felt was a 16 degree temperature in denver in 2001.
That was a novel experience, I must add. I recall a frigid burst of
16 F greeting me outside the airport, and it was a strong cold, a
very interesting feeling.

But really, what does it feel like below zero? Does the air have a scent?
Does the air feel refreshing or strong or heavy? I am curious.
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Re: It's -30F outside right now.

#23 Postby PTPatrick » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:04 pm

Scent all depends on where you are. In Greeley, CO which is FREQUENTLY below zero in the winter...I here it still smells of cow poop. For me here in downtown Denver, below zero smells like frozen mucus... When its that cold breathing in though my nose actually hurts my mucus membranes and quite frankly I can smell much. Its feels like stinging in my nose. But I can imagine -6 in Denver is much more pleasant that say -6 in Maine where the humidity is much greater. Its all relative ya know.
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Re: It's -30F outside right now.

#24 Postby Scott Patterson » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:57 pm

But really, what does it feel like below zero?


It depends on how far below zero and what you are doing plus how long you are outside. If you just walk to the mailbox you won't feel much.

At say -5F with calm conditions when doing something really stenuous such as mountain climbing or snoshoeing, you can actually work up a good sweat with wearing only a shirt. The minute you stop to take a rest, you get cold quick especially if you have been sweating.

A temperature or chill factor of -50 or -60F is way different. It doesn't matter what you are doing or how hard you are working, you will be cold. Even blood freezes instantly I've found out (see the story below) :wink: :

http://www.summitpost.org/trip-report/1 ... ntain.html

It's not too bad if not too windy. Here's a story with the temperature of around -30, but with low wind:

http://www.summitpost.org/trip-report/1 ... d-Air.html

Quite enjoyable actually.

I've seen people's faces freeze black when climbing in Russia in the off-season. Definately not pretty. Interestingly, after all the times I spend outdoors the only time I've got frostbite was when I first moved here. I stopped at the gas station and since the kids were in the car I hurried and jumped out of the car to fill up with gas quickly. I didn't even think about it and grabbed the gas pump with my bare hand when it was in the -20's. It frostbit my fingertips.

Does the air have a scent? Does the air feel refreshing or strong or heavy? I am curious.


It depends on how cold. If you're warm, say snowshoeing at -5, it feels refreshing. It also feels wet and fogs up glasses or whatever quickly. If it's -30 and you're standing or walking outside for a while, your breath falls as ice crystals like small snowflakes. Much colder than that, it actually feels real biting and can be rather unpleasant. I remember camping in the tent at -23 and all our breath fell as ice crystals. It covered out sleeping bags and walls of the tent. It almost looked like it snowed in the tent.

As far as smell goes when it's really cold, I can't smell anything at all. We recently went to the Grand Canyon (last week). It was unusually cold for down there and when we left the rim for our hike it was +1. The frozen mule poop on the Bright Angel trail didn't smell at all, but once we got lower in the canyon you could really smell it.
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