Texas Winter 2010-2011
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011
This mornings GFS and last nights Canadian are showing some potential for late next week. The Polar Vortex will be pulling down some Bitterly Cold Siberian Air along with shortwave energy coming out of the Pacific Northwest. The models aren't sure what to do with that energy quite yet. The European wants to move it east along the Polar Jet while the GFS and more so the Canadian showing the Energy being cut off over the Southwest. If that energy ends up getting cut off, we could have a potential overrunning event late next week. Just something to keep an eye on!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011
orangeblood wrote:This mornings GFS and last nights Canadian are showing some potential for late next week. The Polar Vortex will be pulling down some Bitterly Cold Siberian Air along with shortwave energy coming out of the Pacific Northwest. The models aren't sure what to do with that energy quite yet. The European wants to move it east along the Polar Jet while the GFS and more so the Canadian showing the Energy being cut off over the Southwest. If that energy ends up getting cut off, we could have a potential overrunning event late next week. Just something to keep an eye on!!
Today's 12z Canadian suggests the same thing beyond 180 hours. The 12z GFS really doesn't, although the 6z run did. Lots of flip flopping going on.
If it's going to be this cold, I want some precip with it! (but y'all knew that.

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If "anything" as in frozen precip were to fall from the sky, around what time should this take place in the HOU area? Just curious... I know it will be difficult with it being so dry though.
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djmikey wrote:If "anything" as in frozen precip were to fall from the sky, around what time should this take place in the HOU area? Just curious... I know it will be difficult with it being so dry though.
You might that say that the GEM appears to show it sometime between 3AM & 12PM tomorrow from like Del Rio to Houston. But I wouldn't count on it. It's mainly some mid-level moisture with no real focus for lift.
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where do you get the CMC beyond 120?
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djmikey wrote:If "anything" as in frozen precip were to fall from the sky, around what time should this take place in the HOU area? Just curious... I know it will be difficult with it being so dry though.
Best time in air this dry would be at night, its a shame we cant tap into that moisture just west of Mexico. The temps are cold enough, the clouds are rolling in now.
Just saw 37 degrees at Sugar land airport and i dont expect it to go up anymore either
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TeamPlayersBlue wrote:where do you get the CMC beyond 120?
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensemble/index_e.html
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TeamPlayersBlue wrote:where do you get the CMC beyond 120?
I assume you're directing this question at me since I made the longer-range Canadian post? You can access the Canadian up to 180 hours at the Penn State ewall site. I will include a link below. Also, the site does not have the Canadian beyond that time frame but if you look at the last few panels, it is very clear that a strong Arctic airmass is plunging south into the Plains at the end of the run.
Link: http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/CMC_12z/cmcloop.html
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Yet another cold cold day for Texas. Once again any other year would be counted as an 'arctic outbreak' but of course with the kind of chill we've been having the past few years, this is does not put so much of a shock. Oh the memories of warm winters past! Lets keep our fingers crossed that the wimpy shortwave squeezes out a flurry for Portastorm!
Long term pattern says this cold is not going anywhere if not colder!
Long term pattern says this cold is not going anywhere if not colder!
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Thanks Ntxw ... am expecting nothing here so I won't be disappointed!
I would much prefer a big Arctic plunge next week with multiple shortwaves in the Southern jert crossing Texas!

I would much prefer a big Arctic plunge next week with multiple shortwaves in the Southern jert crossing Texas!

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Portastorm wrote:Thanks Ntxw ... am expecting nothing here so I won't be disappointed!![]()
I would much prefer a big Arctic plunge next week with multiple shortwaves in the Southern jert crossing Texas!
Like you Portastorm, I'm hedging my bets on that.
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Portastorm wrote:Thanks Ntxw ... am expecting nothing here so I won't be disappointed!![]()
I would much prefer a big Arctic plunge next week with multiple shortwaves in the Southern jert crossing Texas!
I think next week will get interesting, JB is being burned with his 2nd thaw idea and the models (shocking GFS too) says "not so fast my friend!" When he gets burned = we get snow

European is showing lots of west coast ridging (+PNA) which means no short of SW storms and cold air anytime soon.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011
Oddly enough, when I look at Radars from GRK, SJT, & EWX, they show very light returns moving north. It would appear that at least a tiny bit of low level moisture is traveling north.
GRK: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radbl ... ightning=0
SJT: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radbl ... ightning=0
EWX: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radbl ... ightning=0
GRK: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radbl ... ightning=0
SJT: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radbl ... ightning=0
EWX: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radbl ... ightning=0
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Radar indicates Denton could be seeing some good flurry action. Can anyone confirm it?
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Ntxw wrote:Radar indicates Denton could be seeing some good flurry action. Can anyone confirm it?
What Radar are you observing? I don't see it on FWS: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radbl ... ightning=0, nor surrounding Radars.
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downsouthman1 wrote:What Radar are you observing? I don't see it on FWS: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radbl ... ightning=0, nor surrounding Radars.
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=FWS&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
Probably isn't reaching the ground, but you never know. Maybe someone out there saw a stray flurry in the darker band!
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According to this radar, DFW is getting hammered right now. Waco, on the other hand, may see some flurry action later o...oh, wait, thats Ntxw's avatar.....again

Portastorm, I'm gonna go with the 'expect the worst and hope for the best' attitude as well. Sure do like hearing about an arctic plunge and a cut off low, just for discussion sake!
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Ntxw wrote:downsouthman1 wrote:What Radar are you observing? I don't see it on FWS: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radbl ... ightning=0, nor surrounding Radars.
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=FWS&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
Probably isn't reaching the ground, but you never know. Maybe someone out there saw a stray flurry in the darker band!
O, I see. It's because you're looking at Composite & I'm looking at Base. I guess Composite probably is more applicable when the precip is occurring in the mid-levels as opposed to the surface layer.
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Ntxw wrote:Radar indicates Denton could be seeing some good flurry action. Can anyone confirm it?
I just looked out the window. Nothing is falling; still some snow around and man is it cold. I would say this air mass has delivered on some levels. I don't think Denton has been above freezing since Sunday!!!!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011
WacoWx wrote:According to this radar, DFW is getting hammered right now. Waco, on the other hand, may see some flurry action later o...oh, wait, thats Ntxw's avatar.....again![]()
Portastorm, I'm gonna go with the 'expect the worst and hope for the best' attitude as well. Sure do like hearing about an arctic plunge and a cut off low, just for discussion sake!

I apologize for the torture but the this radar shows much of the same also! (oops for got it was Sunday's)
No seriously, you should keep an eye out for that stray flake today!
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