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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2141 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:58 pm

WinterMax wrote:
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Haris wrote:NAM kinda shuts the door for anything more W it seems.


I did not trust that anyways, it could be having a hiccup.

Either Way, Springfield, MO (Where my Great-Grandparents are) got absolutely NAMed with 2 Feet of snow, very unlikely but yikes!


How old are you Ice, if you don't mind me asking?


You can see the age below the posting number. (I'm 18)
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2142 Postby Iceresistance » Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:47 pm

12z CFSv2 has the coldest past of this cold wave mostly primed for the Midwest, but that cold wave also reaches into Southern Texas as well.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2143 Postby ElectricStorm » Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:18 pm

Local forecast here now calling for a decent chance for some snowflakes here on Saturday. Shouldn't be much at all though and the wind is going to be brutal.

All I'm saying is we better get something because cold with no snow is no bueno.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2144 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Jan 12, 2022 9:26 pm

Weather Dude wrote:Local forecast here now calling for a decent chance for some snowflakes here on Saturday. Shouldn't be much at all though and the wind is going to be brutal.

All I'm saying is we better get something because cold with no snow is no bueno.


I don’t particularly care for that last statement. For me, it goes (in order):

Cold with Thunder Sleet/Snow


A chilly Fall day after our first norther

Dry cold


Rain and mid-upper 30s




Spring mildness (70ish with no humidity)






Dry Heat (Arizona or West Texas)


The Gates of Hell






Heat and Humidity (Summer in SE Texas)
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2145 Postby Texas Snow » Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:02 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
Weather Dude wrote:Local forecast here now calling for a decent chance for some snowflakes here on Saturday. Shouldn't be much at all though and the wind is going to be brutal.

All I'm saying is we better get something because cold with no snow is no bueno.


I don’t particularly care for that last statement. For me, it goes (in order):

Cold with Thunder Sleet/Snow

A chilly Fall day after our first norther

Dry cold

Rain and mid-upper 30s

Spring mildness (70ish with no humidity)

Dry Heat (Arizona or West Texas)

The Gates of Hell

Heat and Humidity (Summer in SE Texas)


I am right there with you. For summer my dream would be mid 80’s highs with mid 60’s lows with low humidity. Warm enough for summertime activities but cool evenings to comfortably sit out on the porch. I don’t live in the right place for that, yet…
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2146 Postby TropicalTundra » Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:16 am

Texas Snow wrote:
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
Weather Dude wrote:Local forecast here now calling for a decent chance for some snowflakes here on Saturday. Shouldn't be much at all though and the wind is going to be brutal.

All I'm saying is we better get something because cold with no snow is no bueno.


I don’t particularly care for that last statement. For me, it goes (in order):

Cold with Thunder Sleet/Snow

A chilly Fall day after our first norther

Dry cold

Rain and mid-upper 30s

Spring mildness (70ish with no humidity)

Dry Heat (Arizona or West Texas)

The Gates of Hell

Heat and Humidity (Summer in SE Texas)


I am right there with you. For summer my dream would be mid 80’s highs with mid 60’s lows with low humidity. Warm enough for summertime activities but cool evenings to comfortably sit out on the porch. I don’t live in the right place for that, yet…


When it's summer I sometimes sit in a hot car like it's a sauna. Feels super nice but you can't stay very long since you start to sweat and other things. When it's cold I also like sitting on the porch.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2147 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:42 am

Something to track at least:

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2148 Postby wxman22 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:53 am

The 0Z EURO sure looks interesting in the long range... :cold: :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2149 Postby 3090 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:12 am

wxman57 wrote:
PTrackerLA wrote:Euro ensembles are indicating a potentially MAJOR arctic outbreak east of the Rockies for the last week in January :eek:

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/1481359787258482690


That's way east of the Rockies, mostly east of the Mississippi. Operational Euro doesn't even have below-zero temps for Chicago from this outbreak. Cold air is shifting east out of western Canada, focusing the cold into the Great Lakes, Ohio Valley, and northeast U.S. I don't see the really cold air moving south to Texas.


It is a TREND, being the point! Trending much colder is the point. I think that is what is being missed here. Whether or not the trend continues, is going to be the thing to watch. We’ll see.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2150 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:56 am

wxman22 wrote:The 0Z EURO sure looks interesting in the long range... :cold: :spam:


Yes it does. It’s very rare you see the conservative Euro forecasting a 1056mb high coming into Montana but the question is will that cold air move south or slide east?
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2151 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:05 am

00Z Euro still has no snow for Texas through 10 days and only a brief, light freeze for D-FW (31F) next Friday with mid to upper 30s in SE TX. I'll take that. It also indicates warming in Alaska and the bulk of the cold air moving SE toward the Great Lakes & Ohio Valley, keeping it mostly out of Texas. GFS has a blowtorch building in western Canada beyond 10 days.

By the way, I consider temps of 83-88F with dewpoints in the 50s or 60s to be the most ideal cycling weather. Any temperature below 65F is unthinkable for cycling. Above 100F is okay, just need to take extra water with me. Getting back from a 3-5 hour ride with salt crusted on my face and arms is a great feeling. Sitting in the house with a rainy 40 degrees is not my idea of having fun I need to be outside cycling.

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2152 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:13 am

Looks like we have a battle between models. Euro looks locked in for the last two runs, GFS is all over.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2153 Postby Ntxw » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:37 am

06z Euro (1hr) and 12z NAM has a band of light snow coming down from Oklahoma between I-20 and Red River around and east of I-35.

It does look like minute shifts in vmax going neutral determines location of trowal and whether it holds together far enough south. Vorticity.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2154 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:37 am

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Looks like we have a battle between models. Euro looks locked in for the last two runs, GFS is all over.


Yep and the GEFS is mostly east with the cold as well. EPS looks further west.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2155 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:49 am

I think we can safely say DFW won't even see flurries, at least me as far west as DFW. Hopefully parts of OK can cash in, and hopefully, this isn't the last shot.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2156 Postby bubba hotep » Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:01 am

Some nice 700mb changes on the 12z NAM for DFW & NE TX. Also, 3k NAM sounding would support snow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2157 Postby Ntxw » Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:03 am

bubba hotep wrote:Some nice 700mb changes on the 12z NAM for DFW & NE TX. Also, 3k NAM sounding would support snow.


You always hold your breath on these trowal features for strong ULLs.
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2158 Postby orangeblood » Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:06 am

rwfromkansas wrote:I think we can safely say DFW won't even see flurries, at least me as far west as DFW. Hopefully parts of OK can cash in, and hopefully, this isn't the last shot.


Not necessarily, still too early to call that...slight shifts in track can make a big difference. Really active winter period coming up over the next few weeks!
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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2159 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:07 am

rwfromkansas wrote:I think we can safely say DFW won't even see flurries, at least me as far west as DFW. Hopefully parts of OK can cash in, and hopefully, this isn't the last shot.


I don't thing that's an accurate statement. The air aloft will certainly be cold enough for snow. Moisture will be limited, though. The 3K NAM indicates a thickening cloud deck around 6pm Saturday, which could produce some small snowflakes Saturday evening. I wouldn't bet much money against it. Note that the red dot is near the western edge of precip. I wasn't careful in placing it between Dallas and Ft. Worth. I lived in Fort Worth in the late 1970s while going to college at A&M.

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Re: Texas Winter 2021-2022

#2160 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:21 am

Oh, guess there is more of a chance than I thought. Will see how things play out. Some mood flakes are better than nothing.
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