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#2161 Postby Snowman67 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:43 pm

dhweather wrote:So Joe B is throwing around "potential for 83/89".

How confident are YOU that this will even be close to those record years?

I'm not. I'm thinking this next one will be just about like the last week, maybe a few degrees colder because of the snow cover to our north. And it is looking more like a glancing blow. Of course, we're over a week away, a lot will change.



Curious as to what you are seeing that suggests it could be a "glancing blow"? Are the models trending more east (rather than south) with the core of the cold air? Thanks.
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#2162 Postby wxman57 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:13 pm

cajungal wrote:What about SE Louisiana around New Orleans?


The main push of the Arctic air should be due south just east of the Rockies. Such fronts often reach south Texas before reaching Houston. SE LA would be east of the coldest air. Too early to tell how cold either place will get.

Just plotted a 12Z meteogram off the GFS. GFS is losing the colder air now, as it did overnight. It's common for the GFS to pick up on a big event in the 12-15 day time frame then lose it as it approaches the medium-range, only to pick up on it as it gets within 3-5 days.

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#2163 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:28 pm

Im with wxman. The GFS lost the previous 2 fronts as well and others in the past. It typically will bring them back 6-7 days out.
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#2164 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:31 pm

Oops. Sorry on the Cosgrove post. :(
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#2165 Postby TexasStorm » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:42 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Im with wxman. The GFS lost the previous 2 fronts as well and others in the past. It typically will bring them back 6-7 days out.


Though this time the European is losing it too. 00z run of European shows no blocking on the east coast allowing the cold shot to go further east.
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#2166 Postby wxman57 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:48 pm

TexasStorm wrote:
TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Im with wxman. The GFS lost the previous 2 fronts as well and others in the past. It typically will bring them back 6-7 days out.


Though this time the European is losing it too. 00z run of European shows no blocking on the east coast allowing the cold shot to go further east.


True Arctic air intrusions rarely get shunted off to the east. Typically, the very cold air sinks straight south lee of the Rockies. Models often make the mistake of indicating more easterly movement of the Arctic air. We should have a good indication of just what to expect around Christmas in 5-6 days.
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#2167 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:58 pm

TexasStorm wrote:
TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Im with wxman. The GFS lost the previous 2 fronts as well and others in the past. It typically will bring them back 6-7 days out.


Though this time the European is losing it too. 00z run of European shows no blocking on the east coast allowing the cold shot to go further east.



Not really... upper air Euro Ensembles show exactly what wxman57 just stated.

Stop paying attention to surface maps and look at the upper air and teleconnections.
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#2168 Postby texas1836 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:13 pm

Are there any maps that show future models of the Polar Vortex?
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#2169 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:31 pm

@BigJoeBastardi: RT @RyanMaue: 2013 CONUS Lower-48 December mon-to-date temperature virtual tie w/2005 & 2009 for coldest start to month since 1979 http://t.co/NDEXAJlleG

@BigJoeBastardi: @RyanMaue Key is rest of month. 2005 warmed last 15 days.. 2009, after snowstorm got milder too. Could rival 83 when its all done
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#2170 Postby dhweather » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:51 pm

Snowman67 wrote:
dhweather wrote:So Joe B is throwing around "potential for 83/89".

How confident are YOU that this will even be close to those record years?

I'm not. I'm thinking this next one will be just about like the last week, maybe a few degrees colder because of the snow cover to our north. And it is looking more like a glancing blow. Of course, we're over a week away, a lot will change.



Curious as to what you are seeing that suggests it could be a "glancing blow"? Are the models trending more east (rather than south) with the core of the cold air? Thanks.


The latest GFS run takes it more east. Of course that's prone to huge errors. Last year, they always went east, we'd get a glancing blow. This past week and 2011 Super bowl week are the only significant anomalies I can recall in recent years, where we spend >24-48 hours at or below freezing.

Also, I don't want 83/89 played up, those were truly epic events, odds of that happening again are really, really low.

As noted up in the thread, the GFS does poorly in mid-range, so perhaps things will change in the 3-5 day range.
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#2171 Postby southerngale » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:53 pm

wxman57 wrote:
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
The trend is your friend and wxman57 is fully aware of that and the teleconnections we see happening up in the Pac.


Yes, as much as I'd like to be able to wish the cold away, I'm afraid it is coming. It won't be long before homes along Galveston Bay see something like the video below:

http://www.realfarmacy.com/a-must-see-who-knew-nature-could-do-this/

What does it show? It's blocked for me.

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#2172 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:56 pm

southerngale wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
The trend is your friend and wxman57 is fully aware of that and the teleconnections we see happening up in the Pac.


Yes, as much as I'd like to be able to wish the cold away, I'm afraid it is coming. It won't be long before homes along Galveston Bay see something like the video below:

http://www.realfarmacy.com/a-must-see-who-knew-nature-could-do-this/

What does it show? It's blocked for me.

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Ice creeping from the lake onto land. Frozen....
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#2173 Postby southerngale » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:10 pm

And wxman57 thinks it could get that cold???

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#2174 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:15 pm

southerngale wrote:And wxman57 thinks it could get that cold???

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No. I think he is using hyperbole!! LOL
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#2175 Postby wxman57 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:24 pm

southerngale wrote:And wxman57 thinks it could get that cold???


Yes, there is at least the potential for temps to drop below freezing for greater than 24 hrs. We'll see the models jumping all over the place over the coming week. Even though some runs may try to shunt the colder air off to the east and southeast - that rarely happens with Arctic air intrusions. The models often make that mistake. The flow of Arctic air is not governed by the upper-level winds. The cold air takes the path of least resistance, which is generally straight south lee of the Rockies. What we have to watch for over the coming week is just how cold the source region gets (northern and western Canada). That will determine the true cold potential down here.
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#2176 Postby ronyan » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:29 pm

wxman57 wrote:
southerngale wrote:And wxman57 thinks it could get that cold???


Yes, there is at least the potential for temps to drop below freezing for greater than 24 hrs. We'll see the models jumping all over the place over the coming week. Even though some runs may try to shunt the colder air off to the east and southeast - that rarely happens with Arctic air intrusions. The models often make that mistake. The flow of Arctic air is not governed by the upper-level winds. The cold air takes the path of least resistance, which is generally straight south lee of the Rockies. What we have to watch for over the coming week is just how cold the source region gets (northern and western Canada). That will determine the true cold potential down here.


Right now, there's a growing pool of -30s in the Northwest Territories. The minimum is at Yellowknife with -40F. These are significantly colder than this time yesterday I believe.
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#2177 Postby weatherdude1108 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:17 pm

The CPC today predicts normal to above normal temperatures for most of Texas in the 8-14 day outlook, with the exception of the northern portion of Texas (Dallas to Panhandle region) below normal.
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PROGNOSTIC DISCUSSION FOR 6 TO 10 AND 8 TO 14 DAY OUTLOOKS
NWS CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK, MD
300 PM EST THU DECEMBER 12 2013

6-10 DAY OUTLOOK FOR DEC 18 - 22 2013

TODAY'S ENSEMBLE MODEL SOLUTIONS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE OVERALL
CIRCULATION PATTERN PREDICTED OVER THE NORTH AMERICAN REGION FOR THE 6-10 DAY
PERIOD. A STRONG RIDGE IS PREDICTED TO BE OVER THE NORTH PACIFIC WITH A TROUGH
PREDICTED TO EXTEND FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS INTO THE SOUTHWEST. IN THE GEFS
ENSEMBLE MEANS, BELOW NORMAL HEIGHTS EXTEND INTO THE FOUR CORNERS REGION, WHILE
IN THE ECMWF AND ENVIRONMENT CANADA ENSEMBLE MEANS, A WEAKER TROUGH IS FORECAST
SLIGHTLY EAST OF THE GEFS MEANS. THE GFS AND ECMWF HIGH RESOLUTION RUNS
GENERALLY AGREE WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE ENSEMBLE MEANS. IN THE OFFICIAL BLEND OF
MODEL FORECASTS OF THE 500 HPA HEIGHT PATTERN, THE MEAN LOCATION OF THE TROUGH
AXIS FOR THE 6-10 DAY PERIOD EXTENDS FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS TO THE SOUTHWEST
WITH BELOW NORMAL 500 HPA HEIGHTS FROM THE NORTHERN ROCKIES ACROSS THE NORTHERN
PLAINS INTO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES REGION.

THERE ARE ENHANCED PROBABILITIES OF ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES FOR THE SOUTHERN
HALF OF THE CONUS WITH THE HIGHEST PROBABILITIES ALONG THE MEXICO BORDER, THE
EASTERN GULF COAST AND FLORIDA, UNDER ABOVE NORMAL UPPER-LEVEL HEIGHTS. THERE
IS AN ELEVATED CHANCE OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES ALONG THE CANADIAN BORDER IN
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST THROUGH THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS INTO NORTHERN NEW
ENGLAND, UNDER THE TROUGH. ENHANCED PROBABILITIES OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES
ARE INDICATED FOR SOUTHEASTERN ALASKA AND THE PANHANDLE WITH NORTHERLY
UPPER-LEVEL FLOW. WESTERN ALASKA AND THE ALEUTIANS ARE MORE LIKELY TO
EXPERIENCE ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES UNDER ABOVE NORMAL HEIGHTS AND SOUTHERLY
FLOW.

THERE IS AN ELEVATED CHANCE OF ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION FOR THE ALEUTIANS AND
SOUTHERN ALASKAN. PROBABILITIES OF ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION ARE ELEVATED
ACROSS THE NORTHERN CONUS FROM THE NORTHERN ROCKIES TO NEW ENGLAND ALONG THE
PREDICTED STORM TRACK, AS WELL AS EXTENDING SOUTHWARD INTO PARTS OF THE
SOUTHWEST AND THE CENTRAL AND LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. BELOW MEDIAN
PRECIPITATION IS FORECAST FOR PARTS OF CALIFORNIA, OREGON AND NEVADA.

TODAY'S OFFICIAL 500-HPA BLEND CONSISTS OF 10 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z GFS
ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 8...20 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 6Z GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN
CENTERED ON DAY 8...40 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z EUROPEAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON
DAY 8...20 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z CANADIAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 8...AND
10 PERCENT OF YESTERDAY'S 12Z EUROPEAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 7.

MODEL OF THE DAY: TODAY'S 00Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN

FORECAST CONFIDENCE FOR THE 6-10 DAY PERIOD: ABOVE AVERAGE, 4 OUT OF 5, DUE TO
GOOD AGREEMENT AMONG THE ENSEMBLE MEANS AND AMONG THE TOOLS.

8-14 DAY OUTLOOK FOR DEC 20 - 26 2013

FOR THE WEEK 2 PERIOD FORECAST, ON AVERAGE MODEL SOLUTIONS PREDICT THE TROUGH
OVER THE CONUS TO DEEPEN AND PROGRESS SLIGHTLY EASTWARD RELATIVE TO THE 6-10
DAY PERIOD. OVERALL, THE PREDICTED 8-14 DAY CIRCULATION PATTERN IS SIMILAR TO
YESTERDAY'S FORECAST, THOUGH THE PACIFIC RIDGE HAS AMPLIFIED, AND THE TROUGH
AXIS HAS MOVED SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST. THE TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION PATTERNS
FORECAST FOR THE 8-14 DAY PERIOD ARE FAIRLY SIMILAR TO THE FORECAST FOR THE
6-10 DAY PERIOD WITH CHANGES RELATED TO SMALL VARIATIONS IN PREDICTED
CIRCULATION PATTERN OVER THE CONUS.

ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES CONTINUE TO BE MOST LIKELY ALONG THE MEXICO BORDER
AND THE GULF COAST AND FOR THE SOUTHEAST, WHILE THE LIKELIHOOD OF ABOVE NORMAL
TEMPERATURES HAS FALLEN IN THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHERN PLAINS RELATIVE TO THE
6-10 DAY PERIOD. BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES CONTINUE TO BE MOST LIKELY FOR THE
NORTHERN PLAINS IN WEEK 2, EXTENDING FURTHER SOUTH INTO NORTHERN TEXAS.

THE CHANCES OF ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION CONTINUE TO BE ELEVATED ACROSS THE
NORTHERN CONUS, EAST OF THE NORTHERN ROCKIES. PROBABILITIES OF ABOVE MEDIAN
PRECIPITATION HAS DECREASED IN THE SOUTHWEST AND EXTENDS FURTHER INTO THE
SOUTHEAST, WITH AN EASTWARD SHIFT IN THE MEAN TROUGH AXIS. ENHANCED
PROBABILITIES OF BELOW MEDIAN PRECIPITATION COVER A LARGER AREA OF THE WEST IN
WEEK 2.

THE OFFICIAL 8-14 DAY HEIGHT PROG CONSISTS OF: 10 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z GFS
ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 11...20 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 6Z GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN
CENTERED ON DAY 11...40 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z EUROPEAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED
ON DAY 11...20 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z CANADIAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY
11...AND 10 PERCENT OF YESTERDAY'S 12Z EUROPEAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY
10.

FORECAST CONFIDENCE FOR THE 8-14 DAY PERIOD IS: ABOVE AVERAGE, 4 OUT OF 5, DUE
TO GOOD AGREEMENT AMONG THE ENSEMBLE MEANS AND AMONG THE TOOLS.

FORECASTER: DAN COLLINS
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#2178 Postby weatherguy425 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:32 pm

weatherdude1108 wrote:The CPC today predicts normal to above normal temperatures for most of Texas in the 8-14 day outlook, with the exception of the northern portion of Texas (Dallas to Panhandle region) below normal.
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PROGNOSTIC DISCUSSION FOR 6 TO 10 AND 8 TO 14 DAY OUTLOOKS
NWS CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK, MD
300 PM EST THU DECEMBER 12 2013

6-10 DAY OUTLOOK FOR DEC 18 - 22 2013

TODAY'S ENSEMBLE MODEL SOLUTIONS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE OVERALL
CIRCULATION PATTERN PREDICTED OVER THE NORTH AMERICAN REGION FOR THE 6-10 DAY
PERIOD. A STRONG RIDGE IS PREDICTED TO BE OVER THE NORTH PACIFIC WITH A TROUGH
PREDICTED TO EXTEND FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS INTO THE SOUTHWEST. IN THE GEFS


ENSEMBLE MEANS, BELOW NORMAL HEIGHTS EXTEND INTO THE FOUR CORNERS REGION, WHILE
IN THE ECMWF AND ENVIRONMENT CANADA ENSEMBLE MEANS, A WEAKER TROUGH IS FORECAST
SLIGHTLY EAST OF THE GEFS MEANS. THE GFS AND ECMWF HIGH RESOLUTION RUNS
GENERALLY AGREE WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE ENSEMBLE MEANS. IN THE OFFICIAL BLEND OF
MODEL FORECASTS OF THE 500 HPA HEIGHT PATTERN, THE MEAN LOCATION OF THE TROUGH
AXIS FOR THE 6-10 DAY PERIOD EXTENDS FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS TO THE SOUTHWEST
WITH BELOW NORMAL 500 HPA HEIGHTS FROM THE NORTHERN ROCKIES ACROSS THE NORTHERN
PLAINS INTO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES REGION.

THERE ARE ENHANCED PROBABILITIES OF ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES FOR THE SOUTHERN
HALF OF THE CONUS WITH THE HIGHEST PROBABILITIES ALONG THE MEXICO BORDER, THE
EASTERN GULF COAST AND FLORIDA, UNDER ABOVE NORMAL UPPER-LEVEL HEIGHTS. THERE
IS AN ELEVATED CHANCE OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES ALONG THE CANADIAN BORDER IN
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST THROUGH THE NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PLAINS INTO NORTHERN NEW
ENGLAND, UNDER THE TROUGH. ENHANCED PROBABILITIES OF BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES
ARE INDICATED FOR SOUTHEASTERN ALASKA AND THE PANHANDLE WITH NORTHERLY
UPPER-LEVEL FLOW. WESTERN ALASKA AND THE ALEUTIANS ARE MORE LIKELY TO
EXPERIENCE ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES UNDER ABOVE NORMAL HEIGHTS AND SOUTHERLY
FLOW.

THERE IS AN ELEVATED CHANCE OF ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION FOR THE ALEUTIANS AND
SOUTHERN ALASKAN. PROBABILITIES OF ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION ARE ELEVATED
ACROSS THE NORTHERN CONUS FROM THE NORTHERN ROCKIES TO NEW ENGLAND ALONG THE
PREDICTED STORM TRACK, AS WELL AS EXTENDING SOUTHWARD INTO PARTS OF THE
SOUTHWEST AND THE CENTRAL AND LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. BELOW MEDIAN
PRECIPITATION IS FORECAST FOR PARTS OF CALIFORNIA, OREGON AND NEVADA.

TODAY'S OFFICIAL 500-HPA BLEND CONSISTS OF 10 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z GFS
ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 8...20 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 6Z GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN
CENTERED ON DAY 8...40 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z EUROPEAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON
DAY 8...20 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z CANADIAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 8...AND
10 PERCENT OF YESTERDAY'S 12Z EUROPEAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 7.

MODEL OF THE DAY: TODAY'S 00Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN

FORECAST CONFIDENCE FOR THE 6-10 DAY PERIOD: ABOVE AVERAGE, 4 OUT OF 5, DUE TO
GOOD AGREEMENT AMONG THE ENSEMBLE MEANS AND AMONG THE TOOLS.

8-14 DAY OUTLOOK FOR DEC 20 - 26 2013

FOR THE WEEK 2 PERIOD FORECAST, ON AVERAGE MODEL SOLUTIONS PREDICT THE TROUGH
OVER THE CONUS TO DEEPEN AND PROGRESS SLIGHTLY EASTWARD RELATIVE TO THE 6-10
DAY PERIOD. OVERALL, THE PREDICTED 8-14 DAY CIRCULATION PATTERN IS SIMILAR TO
YESTERDAY'S FORECAST, THOUGH THE PACIFIC RIDGE HAS AMPLIFIED, AND THE TROUGH
AXIS HAS MOVED SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST. THE TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION PATTERNS
FORECAST FOR THE 8-14 DAY PERIOD ARE FAIRLY SIMILAR TO THE FORECAST FOR THE
6-10 DAY PERIOD WITH CHANGES RELATED TO SMALL VARIATIONS IN PREDICTED
CIRCULATION PATTERN OVER THE CONUS.

ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES CONTINUE TO BE MOST LIKELY ALONG THE MEXICO BORDER
AND THE GULF COAST AND FOR THE SOUTHEAST, WHILE THE LIKELIHOOD OF ABOVE NORMAL
TEMPERATURES HAS FALLEN IN THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHERN PLAINS RELATIVE TO THE
6-10 DAY PERIOD. BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES CONTINUE TO BE MOST LIKELY FOR THE
NORTHERN PLAINS IN WEEK 2, EXTENDING FURTHER SOUTH INTO NORTHERN TEXAS.

THE CHANCES OF ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION CONTINUE TO BE ELEVATED ACROSS THE
NORTHERN CONUS, EAST OF THE NORTHERN ROCKIES. PROBABILITIES OF ABOVE MEDIAN
PRECIPITATION HAS DECREASED IN THE SOUTHWEST AND EXTENDS FURTHER INTO THE
SOUTHEAST, WITH AN EASTWARD SHIFT IN THE MEAN TROUGH AXIS. ENHANCED
PROBABILITIES OF BELOW MEDIAN PRECIPITATION COVER A LARGER AREA OF THE WEST IN
WEEK 2.

THE OFFICIAL 8-14 DAY HEIGHT PROG CONSISTS OF: 10 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z GFS
ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 11...20 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 6Z GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN
CENTERED ON DAY 11...40 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z EUROPEAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED
ON DAY 11...20 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z CANADIAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY
11...AND 10 PERCENT OF YESTERDAY'S 12Z EUROPEAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY
10.

FORECAST CONFIDENCE FOR THE 8-14 DAY PERIOD IS: ABOVE AVERAGE, 4 OUT OF 5, DUE
TO GOOD AGREEMENT AMONG THE ENSEMBLE MEANS AND AMONG THE TOOLS.

FORECASTER: DAN COLLINS



A purely confidence-driven forecast. Only useful for general trends - warm air advection ahead of the front (above normal temps), followed by a much colder air-mass working its way southward. These outlooks have already undergone huge changes over the past week, or so.
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#2179 Postby Snowman67 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:24 pm

NWS out of Fort Worth doesn't seem to be too bullish on the front at the end of next week:



AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FORT WORTH TX
239 PM CST THU DEC 12 2013

.DISCUSSION...
UPPER LOW CURRENTLY OVER SRN CALIF PROGGED TO MOVE EAST...OPEN UP
INTO A WAVE...AND REACH OKLAHOMA FRIDAY EVENING BEFORE CONTINUING
EAST. ASSOCIATED LIFT AND PRECIPITATION REACHES WESTERN NORTH
TEXAS FRIDAY MORNING. RAIN EXPANDS EAST DURING THE MORNING AND BY
FRIDAY AFTERNOON WIDESPREAD RAIN SHOWERS SHOULD BE OCCURRING. I
HAVE HIGH CHANCE POPS IN THE WEST INCREASING TO CATEGORICAL POPS
IN THE EAST FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

SURFACE TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN ABOVE FREEZING FOR THE EVENT
DURATION...WITH THE ATMOSPHERE DRYING OUT BEFORE IT COOLS OFF
ENOUGH TO PRODUCE ANY MIXED PRECIPITATION. FORECAST SOUNDINGS FOR
THE RAIN PERIOD SHOW A MOIST ADIABATIC ATMOSPHERE OVER THE
INVERSION WITH NO SIGNIFICANT CAPE...SO THE FORECAST IS FOR
SHOWERS ALTHOUGH A STRAY CLOUD TO CLOUD STROKE MAY OCCUR. WITH
THE WAVE MOVING EAST SO QUICKLY...FEEL ALL PRECIP WILL BE EAST OF
NORTH TX BY SUNRISE SATURDAY.

THE REST OF THE FORECAST PERIOD APPEARS DRY...WITH MORE
REASONABLE 50S/60S FOR HIGH TEMPERATURES IN THE MONDAY THRU
THURSDAY PERIOD. NEXT COLD FRONT CURRENTLY APPEARS TO BE PROGGED
FOR NEXT FRIDAY WHICH IS BEYOND THIS FORECAST. THE UPPER LOW
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SYSTEM APPEARS FAIRLY PROGRESSIVE SO I WOULD
NOT YET EXPECT A PROLONGED PERIOD OF COLD AS WE SAW THIS PAST
WEEK. THE SYSTEM DOES HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE AT LEAST SOME
WINTER WEATHER SO STAY TUNED. 84
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#2180 Postby orangeblood » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:09 pm

Some of you may have access to the European Weeklies, if so go check them out. Shows the polar express continuing all the way through to the middle of next month. Coldest long range forecast I've ever seen out of them, has DFW at or below freezing from just before Christmas all the way through the end of forecast cycle - January 12, 2014. Along with the onslaught of Arctic High after Arctic High pouring into the lower 48, several bouts of wintery weather accompanies them. An incredible amount of potential is on the playing field now, pretty fascinating to follow.
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