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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2261 Postby rwfromkansas » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:12 am

Unfortunately, 9 times out of 10 DFW is in the battle zone, so it's unusual to have a shot of mostly frozen precip here...usually there will be a mix first it seems. I just hope late trends turn out well. It can happen, especially if it digs further south than expected.

We will see. I would be happy with even a half inch, as that's more than I have gotten in other stuff in years. I want more, but beggars can't be choosers.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2262 Postby Jarodm12 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:12 am

bubba hotep wrote:06z TX Tech WRF shows convective elements movng through DFW Wednesday with temps below freezing. Using the model derived soundings looks like it could be heavy sleet transitioning to snow, it would be close.


Man that wrf Texas tech model is what we want to see for sure
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2263 Postby Quixotic » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:16 am

Looks like the wind has shifted in Amarillo. The OK panhandle is reporting winds up to 39 mph. Maybe a sooner than expected arrival?
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2264 Postby orangeblood » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:17 am

Jarodm12 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:06z TX Tech WRF shows convective elements movng through DFW Wednesday with temps below freezing. Using the model derived soundings looks like it could be heavy sleet transitioning to snow, it would be close.


Man that wrf Texas tech model is what we want to see for sure


Yep, that model is what the GFS was showing several runs back....heavy convective sleet taking direct aim at the metroplex
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2265 Postby Jarodm12 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:19 am

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2266 Postby Jarodm12 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:20 am

Jarodm12 wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Jarodm12 wrote:
Man that wrf Texas tech model is what we want to see for sure



Yep, that model is what the GFS was showing several runs back....heavy convective sleet taking direct aim at the metroplex


Take look at the wrf arw on tropical tidbits at 48 hours, if that verified lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2267 Postby gboudx » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:24 am

Quixotic wrote:Looks like the wind has shifted in Amarillo. The OK panhandle is reporting winds up to 39 mph. Maybe a sooner than expected arrival?


The Amarillo NWS AFD says this:

For Monday and Monday evening, main forecast issue is the timing of
the cold front as it continues southward. Most guidance has this
feature working into the Oklahoma Panhandle by 18z Monday afternoon,
nearly stalling in the afternoon as downsloping westerly winds
continue across the southern TX Panhandle, and finally pushing
through by Monday night.

18z Monday would be 1pm Central. As you look up to Dalhart and into the Ok panhandle, the temps are near or below freezing. So considering this, it does look early.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2268 Postby Theepicman116 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:25 am

What's the likelihood of this system trending southeastward just enough that hits Stephenville? Asking for my dorm roommate who wants classes to be canceled.... :ggreen:


Looks like the WRF-ARW model answers that question. Kind of
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2269 Postby starsfan65 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:26 am

gboudx wrote:
Quixotic wrote:Looks like the wind has shifted in Amarillo. The OK panhandle is reporting winds up to 39 mph. Maybe a sooner than expected arrival?


The Amarillo NWS AFD says this:

For Monday and Monday evening, main forecast issue is the timing of
the cold front as it continues southward. Most guidance has this
feature working into the Oklahoma Panhandle by 18z Monday afternoon,
nearly stalling in the afternoon as downsloping westerly winds
continue across the southern TX Panhandle, and finally pushing
through by Monday night.

18z Monday would be 1pm Central. As you look up to Dalhart and into the Ok panhandle, the temps are near or below freezing. So considering this, it does look early.

18z is noon central.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2270 Postby gboudx » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:30 am

starsfan65 wrote:
gboudx wrote:
Quixotic wrote:Looks like the wind has shifted in Amarillo. The OK panhandle is reporting winds up to 39 mph. Maybe a sooner than expected arrival?


The Amarillo NWS AFD says this:

For Monday and Monday evening, main forecast issue is the timing of
the cold front as it continues southward. Most guidance has this
feature working into the Oklahoma Panhandle by 18z Monday afternoon,
nearly stalling in the afternoon as downsloping westerly winds
continue across the southern TX Panhandle, and finally pushing
through by Monday night.

18z Monday would be 1pm Central. As you look up to Dalhart and into the Ok panhandle, the temps are near or below freezing. So considering this, it does look early.

18z is noon central.


Thanks. I forgot we're in Standard Time. God I hate Daylight Savings time.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2271 Postby EnnisTx » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:30 am

Quixotic wrote:Looks like the wind has shifted in Amarillo. The OK panhandle is reporting winds up to 39 mph. Maybe a sooner than expected arrival?


It's through Dumas and Pampa for sure and looks like it's on the door step at Amarillo.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2272 Postby BTAYLOR5021 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:49 am

Is DFW set up Geographically to where its often the battle zone with rain/snow? This is seen with many winter systems. Kinda nerve racking.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2273 Postby EnnisTx » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:54 am

BTAYLOR5021 wrote:Is DFW set up Geographically to where its often the battle zone with rain/snow? This is seen with many winter systems. Kinda nerve racking.


Higher elevations to the Northwest and West tend to help them verses here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2274 Postby gpsnowman » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:55 am

BTAYLOR5021 wrote:Is DFW set up Geographically to where its often the battle zone with rain/snow? This is seen with many winter systems. Kinda nerve racking.

A lot of it has to do with elevation. For example Dallas is around 450 feet above sea level and just to our west in Weatherford the elevation is over a thousand feet. This is why the frozen preciip line is always just to the west of DFW. I am sure other factors play a role but elevation is key.

Edit. Ennistx beat me to it. :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2275 Postby EnnisTx » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:01 am

gpsnowman wrote:
BTAYLOR5021 wrote:Is DFW set up Geographically to where its often the battle zone with rain/snow? This is seen with many winter systems. Kinda nerve racking.

A lot of it has to do with elevation. For example Dallas is around 450 feet above sea level and just to our west in Weatherford the elevation is over a thousand feet. This is why the frozen preciip line is always just to the west of DFW. I am sure other factors play a role but elevation is key.

Edit. Ennistx beat me to it. :D


Well, you explained it better then I did! :P
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2276 Postby Jarodm12 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:22 am

I think that if we want a big winter storm further east, then we want these wrf models to verify, I also think we are 48 hours (or maybe alittle less) from the event and that a 50 to 100 mile shift east is not unlikely, its almost expected
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2277 Postby orangeblood » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:31 am

Jarodm12 wrote:I think that if we want a big winter storm further east, then we want these wrf models to verify, I also think we are 48 hours (or maybe alittle less) from the event and that a 50 to 100 mile shift east is not unlikely, its almost expected


Yep, more often than not...I'd say 4 out of 5 events like this one, the NWS expands warnings/advisories 1-2 counties Southeast the day of the event. If the WRF were to verify, that would definitely be the case as temps are 2-3 deg F colder on that model with heavier precip.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2278 Postby SnowintheFalls » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:36 am

I am happy to see this board light up a bit. This has been a dreadful winter so far but hopefully we will end winter with a bang!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2279 Postby wxman57 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:41 am

I'm very excited to see that Houston will see a low in the upper 30s and a high in the 50s on Thursday. Quite a winter storm for SE TX... At least the 70s will be returning for the weekend (and for at least 10 days to follow). Hope you folks in the D-FW area get some winter weather out of this storm so that we can finally move on to spring. I think you may see some snowflakes out of this in Fort Worth. Dallas is a lot more iffy.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#2280 Postby EnnisTx » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:41 am

SnowintheFalls wrote:I am happy to see this board light up a bit. This has been a dreadful winter so far but hopefully we will end winter with a bang!


And possibly a strike of lightning or two with thunder sleet/snow.
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