Texas Winter 2019-2020
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
12 GFS brings heavier snow closer to DFW but trims the eastern side also.
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rwfromkansas wrote:12 GFS brings heavier snow closer to DFW but trims the eastern side also.
A lot of models are having a difficult time bringing the freezing line through the "Urban Heat Island" of DFW with this front
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orangeblood wrote:rwfromkansas wrote:12 GFS brings heavier snow closer to DFW but trims the eastern side also.
A lot of models are having a difficult time bringing the freezing line through the "Urban Heat Island" of DFW with this front
a difficult time?
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
WRF-ARW looks scary
very heavy snow

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
This is a pretty remarkable sounding for sleet at DFW Wednesday morning 6am...reason for sleet is notice how the DGZ (between -10 to -20C) isn't very saturated and the slight warm nose at the 700-800 mb level. Would have major issues for rush hour if this came anywhere close to verifying

However, just to the west around the Weatherford area, the DGZ looks a little better for snow growth


However, just to the west around the Weatherford area, the DGZ looks a little better for snow growth

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
orangeblood wrote:This is a pretty remarkable sounding for sleet at DFW Wednesday morning 6am...reason for sleet is notice how the DGZ (between -10 to -20C) isn't very saturated and the slight warm nose at the 700-800 mb level. Would have major issues for rush hour if this came anywhere close to verifying
That is a near perfect sleet sounding. A degree one way or another through the lower column is the difference between freezing rain and snow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
unless this trends snowier for DFW I am looking at possibly headed up towards Wichita Falls since I'm off Wednesday
I'm kind of over chasing snow(especially when none have been that big)... but if the higher totals are gonna verify
I'm kind of over chasing snow(especially when none have been that big)... but if the higher totals are gonna verify

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
Don't give up hope you all, pay attention to the high res models, almost all of them are significantly colder than the globals, all that we need is for the precipitation shield to lift out a tad further east, which i think is the most likely scenario, if these wrf models were to verify all of north Texas would likely be under a warning, even pete delkus is tweet that ," he's thinking about canceling school on Wednesday" all is not lost, the true model watching and analysis has just begun this should be fun, i hope all of you enjoy a very white winter wonderland surprise on Wednesday and that you all drive safely, I don't think, and haven't thought that temps are the problem, with a strong north wind and continued cold air advection and dew points in the mid 20s, we should have no problem wetbulbing below freezing. What we need is for the impulse to lift out further east just 50 miles further east! Be on the lookout for the system to strengthen and have better characteristics going into Wednesday!
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
Sleetmageddon 2020 inbound! 

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
The ARW2 & NMMB WRFs both look like big hits for DFW with temps in the upper 20s. Also, essentially all guidance is off on temps with 30s already surging into the Panhandle. Amarillo is at 45F which is also colder than all guidance with some models being nearly 20F to warm.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
Brent wrote:unless this trends snowier for DFW I am looking at possibly headed up towards Wichita Falls since I'm off Wednesday
I'm kind of over chasing snow(especially when none have been that big)... but if the higher totals are gonna verify
While we would typically always welcome you up here, if you came up on Wednesday all the snow would shift away from us to DFW!

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bubba hotep wrote:The ARW2 & NMMB WRFs both look like big hits for DFW with temps in the upper 20s. Also, essentially all guidance is off on temps with 30s already surging into the Panhandle. Amarillo is at 45F which is also colder than all guidance with some models being nearly 20F to warm.
That is precisely what we want to see for good snow chances. It indicates that the air mass is deeper and colder than intended right? So that means a better chance of the precipitation being more wintry, if it doesn’t get dry slotted.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
SnowintheFalls wrote:Brent wrote:unless this trends snowier for DFW I am looking at possibly headed up towards Wichita Falls since I'm off Wednesday
I'm kind of over chasing snow(especially when none have been that big)... but if the higher totals are gonna verify
While we would typically always welcome you up here, if you came up on Wednesday all the snow would shift away from us to DFW!




well that is the plan...

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SnowintheFalls wrote:Brent wrote:unless this trends snowier for DFW I am looking at possibly headed up towards Wichita Falls since I'm off Wednesday
I'm kind of over chasing snow(especially when none have been that big)... but if the higher totals are gonna verify
While we would typically always welcome you up here, if you came up on Wednesday all the snow would shift away from us to DFW!
Haha this cracks me up. Poor Brent, your snow curse is becoming known statewide!!

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
bubba hotep wrote:The ARW2 & NMMB WRFs both look like big hits for DFW with temps in the upper 20s. Also, essentially all guidance is off on temps with 30s already surging into the Panhandle. Amarillo is at 45F which is also colder than all guidance with some models being nearly 20F to warm.
Yep, the globals have no clue where this front is located
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
Per NAM and especially the WRF models the sleet line Wed morning would reach my area (Smith County).
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
orangeblood wrote:bubba hotep wrote:The ARW2 & NMMB WRFs both look like big hits for DFW with temps in the upper 20s. Also, essentially all guidance is off on temps with 30s already surging into the Panhandle. Amarillo is at 45F which is also colder than all guidance with some models being nearly 20F to warm.
Yep, the globals have no clue where this front is located
Something to watch this afternoon, models actually show temps rebounding across the Panhandles as warming essentially stalls the front. If the cold air plows south and temps don't rebound then that could be a game changer for those currently SE of the Winter Storm Watch.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
orangeblood wrote:This is a pretty remarkable sounding for sleet at DFW Wednesday morning 6am...reason for sleet is notice how the DGZ (between -10 to -20C) isn't very saturated and the slight warm nose at the 700-800 mb level. Would have major issues for rush hour if this came anywhere close to verifying
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/sounding/images/wrf-arw_2020020312_fh48_sounding_32.89N_97.01W.png
However, just to the west around the Weatherford area, the DGZ looks a little better for snow growth
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/sounding/images/wrf-arw_2020020312_fh48_sounding_32.54N_98.06W.png
I looked at the sounding for Arlington and it's at 28F TEMP, 27F WET BULB and 24F DEW POINT
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
The convective bands on the 12z ARW look NUTS. That’s model heaven right there.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020
Brent wrote:unless this trends snowier for DFW I am looking at possibly headed up towards Wichita Falls since I'm off Wednesday
I'm kind of over chasing snow(especially when none have been that big)... but if the higher totals are gonna verify
A reserved excitement is what I would call it around here in WF.
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