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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3101 Postby Brent » Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:22 pm

Im actually good not seeing anymore below zero temps this winter... Frozen pipes :spam: give me marginally cold heavy wet snow over this dry powder stuff too any day :lol: which I do hope happens before the winter is over

Honestly up here it's gonna be hard to top the last few days anyway. I mean the high of 6 on Sunday was 6th coldest on record in 120 years of records :eek:
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3102 Postby Itryatgolf » Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:59 pm

Brent wrote:Im actually good not seeing anymore below zero temps this winter... Frozen pipes :spam: give me marginally cold heavy wet snow over this dry powder stuff too any day :lol: which I do hope happens before the winter is over

Honestly up here it's gonna be hard to top the last few days anyway. I mean the high of 6 on Sunday was 6th coldest on record in 120 years of records :eek:

We got down to -5 wed morning, which is the coldest ever for me. Feb 2021 it only dropped to -2 when I stayed in Jonesboro back then. It will be tough to top this cold spell we just had and another one this weekend
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3103 Postby weatherdude1108 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:02 am

Pipe-busting plant-killing cold (and freezing rain) sucks.

I'm good with near freezing temps (around 29) wiith snow or sleet. That's fun and relatively safe.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3104 Postby Tammie » Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:57 am

How confident are people that a secondary cold period is going to happen at the beginning of February? Are you simply relying on past precedent, or are models actually predicting it?
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3105 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:12 am

Tammie wrote:How confident are people that a secondary cold period is going to happen at the beginning of February? Are you simply relying on past precedent, or are models actually predicting it?


Hello, this is Bing. I can help you with your weather query.

According to the web search results, the long range weather forecast for mid February 2024 for the North Texas region is as follows:

- It will be **unseasonably cold** with a possible **major winter storm** in mid-February¹³.
- The average temperature for February is **48°F** with a low of **32°F** and a high of **64°F**⁴.
- The precipitation and snow will be **above normal**⁵.

I hope this information is helpful to you. Have a nice day! ☀️

Source: Conversation with Bing, 1/18/2024
(1) Extended Winter Forecast for 2023-2024 - Farmers' Almanac. https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast.
(2) February 2024 Forecast: Will the Groundhog Get It Right?. https://www.almanac.com/february-forecast.
(3) Texas weather in February 2024 | Texas 14 day weather. https://www.weather25.com/north-america ... h=February.
(4) 60-Day Extended Weather Forecast for Texas-Oklahoma. https://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/region/us/11.
(5) Here's Your January-March Temperature Outlook | Weather.com. https://weather.com/forecast/national/n ... er-outlook.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3106 Postby Tammie » Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:40 am

Tammie wrote:How confident are people that a secondary cold period is going to happen at the beginning of February? Are you simply relying on past precedent, or are models actually predicting it?


And right on cue… the infamous Larry Cosgrove answers my question!!!
https://clearskyweather.com/2024/01/18/ ... louisiana/
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3107 Postby Anti-freeze » Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:20 am

Tammie wrote:
Tammie wrote:How confident are people that a secondary cold period is going to happen at the beginning of February? Are you simply relying on past precedent, or are models actually predicting it?


And right on cue… the infamous Larry Cosgrove answers my question!!!
https://clearskyweather.com/2024/01/18/ ... louisiana/



...Secondly, the subtropical jet stream will be sending something very bad from Mexico into Texas...

...The storm riding the southern branch will be a slow mover into the Rio Grande Valley, and also have a Tehuantepec moisture fetch. The last time we saw that feature? Hurricane Harvey on August 25, 2017....



Could also be very bad for Miss Columbia

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3108 Postby Tammie » Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:51 am

Anti-freeze wrote:
Tammie wrote:
Tammie wrote:How confident are people that a secondary cold period is going to happen at the beginning of February? Are you simply relying on past precedent, or are models actually predicting it?


And right on cue… the infamous Larry Cosgrove answers my question!!!
https://clearskyweather.com/2024/01/18/ ... louisiana/



...Secondly, the subtropical jet stream will be sending something very bad from Mexico into Texas...

...The storm riding the southern branch will be a slow mover into the Rio Grande Valley, and also have a Tehuantepec moisture fetch. The last time we saw that feature? Hurricane Harvey on August 25, 2017....



Could also be very bad for Miss Columbia

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/289/395/317.jpg


Really sounds ominous, doesn’t he?
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3109 Postby orangeblood » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:32 pm

What kind of El Nino is this ??? Not behaving like anything we've ever seen and what is going on NE of Australia (underwater geothermal ??). Considering this is unchartered territory in the Pacific, can't imagine anyone has a clue what to expect in Feb/March

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Look at this increase in heat content NE of Australia since last month, you almost never see that during a supposed El Nino in that part of the Pacific...looks much more La Nina esque
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3110 Postby Itryatgolf » Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:53 pm

orangeblood wrote:What kind of El Nino is this ??? Not behaving like anything we've ever seen and what is going on NE of Australia (underwater geothermal ??). Considering this is unchartered territory in the Pacific, can't imagine anyone has a clue what to expect in Feb/March

https://www.weatherbell.com/images/imguploader/images/Screenshot_2024_01_18_at_5_59_07_AM.png

Look at this increase in heat content NE of Australia since last month, you almost never see that during a supposed El Nino in that part of the Pacific...looks much more La Nina esque
https://www.weatherbell.com/images/imguploader/images/compday_1lPohA4RXz(1).gif

We may have a blowtorch February, which isn't typical of elniño.I personally don't want to throw away the whole month to warm weather lol.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3111 Postby Stratton23 » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:06 pm

We are not going to have a blow torch February, its not going to happen at all , expecting another cold month before march starts the warm trend
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3112 Postby orangeblood » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:28 pm

Stratton23 wrote:We are not going to have a blow torch February, its not going to happen at all , expecting another cold month before march starts the warm trend


We’re in uncharted ENSO territory, no one knows…pure speculation otherwise. Typically we have some historical analogs to back up claims but not this time, wild!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3113 Postby Ntxw » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:31 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:We are not going to have a blow torch February, its not going to happen at all , expecting another cold month before march starts the warm trend


We’re in uncharted ENSO territory, no one knows…pure speculation otherwise. Typically we have some historical analogs to back up claims but not this time, wild!!


The warm waters of Indonesia and Westpac have increased a lot since 2015-2016 super nino. La Ninas have been on steroids no matter how weak, El Ninos have struggled in part because this area refuses to cool.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3114 Postby Gotwood » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:31 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:We are not going to have a blow torch February, its not going to happen at all , expecting another cold month before march starts the warm trend


We’re in uncharted ENSO territory, no one knows…pure speculation otherwise. Typically we have some historical analogs to back up claims but not this time, wild!!

I haven’t looked but outside of one week where we got like 9 inches of rain it’s been relatively dry. Was expecting much more rain, can’t believe we got lucky to have an arctic blast and of course barely any moisture to work with. Just bad luck.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3115 Postby Gotwood » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:32 pm

Ntxw wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:We are not going to have a blow torch February, its not going to happen at all , expecting another cold month before march starts the warm trend


We’re in uncharted ENSO territory, no one knows…pure speculation otherwise. Typically we have some historical analogs to back up claims but not this time, wild!!


The warm waters of Indonesia and Westpac have increased a lot since 2015-2016 super nino. La Ninas have been on steroids no matter how weak, El Ninos have struggled in part because this area refuses to cool.

That’s wild great info.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3116 Postby Ntxw » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:44 pm

Gotwood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
We’re in uncharted ENSO territory, no one knows…pure speculation otherwise. Typically we have some historical analogs to back up claims but not this time, wild!!


The warm waters of Indonesia and Westpac have increased a lot since 2015-2016 super nino. La Ninas have been on steroids no matter how weak, El Ninos have struggled in part because this area refuses to cool.

That’s wild great info.


Here's an animated view each year. It isn't the darkest reds but rather expansion of the overall field. Something similar is happening in the Atlantic since also that is effecting ENSO.

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3117 Postby Fifty Rock » Thu Jan 18, 2024 1:45 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
Tammie wrote:How confident are people that a secondary cold period is going to happen at the beginning of February? Are you simply relying on past precedent, or are models actually predicting it?


Hello, this is Bing. I can help you with your weather query.

According to the web search results, the long range weather forecast for mid February 2024 for the North Texas region is as follows:

- It will be **unseasonably cold** with a possible **major winter storm** in mid-February¹³.
- The average temperature for February is **48°F** with a low of **32°F** and a high of **64°F**⁴.
- The precipitation and snow will be **above normal**⁵.

I hope this information is helpful to you. Have a nice day! ☀️

Source: Conversation with Bing, 1/18/2024
(1) Extended Winter Forecast for 2023-2024 - Farmers' Almanac. https://www.farmersalmanac.com/extended-forecast.
(2) February 2024 Forecast: Will the Groundhog Get It Right?. https://www.almanac.com/february-forecast.
(3) Texas weather in February 2024 | Texas 14 day weather. https://www.weather25.com/north-america ... h=February.
(4) 60-Day Extended Weather Forecast for Texas-Oklahoma. https://www.almanac.com/weather/longrange/region/us/11.
(5) Here's Your January-March Temperature Outlook | Weather.com. https://weather.com/forecast/national/n ... er-outlook.


Just throw some sticks up in the air, if they point North, look out.... :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3118 Postby orangeblood » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:13 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Gotwood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
The warm waters of Indonesia and Westpac have increased a lot since 2015-2016 super nino. La Ninas have been on steroids no matter how weak, El Ninos have struggled in part because this area refuses to cool.

That’s wild great info.


Here's an animated view each year. It isn't the darkest reds but rather expansion of the overall field. Something similar is happening in the Atlantic since also that is effecting ENSO.

https://i.imgur.com/efW5Yk8.gif


Best theory I've heard is an uptick in geothermal activity in both basins
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3119 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:22 pm

I am trying to go with LC and the optimistic feel we had recently that February will be cold and wet. I hope.

But, hard not to admit this is a weird El Nino.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#3120 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:44 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:I am trying to go with LC and the optimistic feel we had recently that February will be cold and wet. I hope.

But, hard not to admit this is a weird El Nino.

Seems every winter now doesn't play by the rules. I too am sticking with LC and his call for late Jan and Feb. History has shown that Feb can deliver big time for DFW.
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