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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#321 Postby Jag95 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:52 pm

The NAM is more pronounced with the warm nose that the other models. Major sleet storm for the coastal sections. Yuck.
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#322 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:55 pm

Jag95 wrote:The NAM is more pronounced with the warm nose that the other models. Major sleet storm for the coastal sections. Yuck.


With the GFS and CMC moving toward the Euro with the snow line further south today, I am feeling a lot better.

With the Euro ensemble mean close to 100 percent now as well.
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#323 Postby Janie2006 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:10 pm

KJAN has joined KLIX in issuing a Winter Storm Watch. I wonder how long it’ll be before NWS Mobile-Pensacola folds its hand and joins in?
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#324 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:12 pm

18z Icon pretty similar to 12z...Snow line extends well into the Gulf Image

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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#325 Postby Jag95 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:15 pm

Janie2006 wrote:KJAN has joined KLIX in issuing a Winter Storm Watch. I wonder how long it’ll be before NWS Mobile-Pensacola folds its hand and joins in?


Their criteria is 2" I believe. Seems likely that at least some of their watch area will get that. Maybe this afternoon?

The ICON is coming around a little. It still wants to send the bulk of the energy into the southern Gulf.
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#326 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:16 pm

Janie2006 wrote:KJAN has joined KLIX in issuing a Winter Storm Watch. I wonder how long it’ll be before NWS Mobile-Pensacola folds its hand and joins in?


They bumped everyone up from 70 to 80% now
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#327 Postby Janie2006 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:21 pm

Jag95 wrote:
Janie2006 wrote:KJAN has joined KLIX in issuing a Winter Storm Watch. I wonder how long it’ll be before NWS Mobile-Pensacola folds its hand and joins in?


Their criteria is 2" I believe. Seems likely that at least some of their watch area will get that. Maybe this afternoon?


Gotta be. The NBM has a swath of 2-4 inches painted from Mobile County (except for the immediate coast, say Grand Bay -Coden -Dauphin Island - Fort Morgan) to points North, East, and Northeast.
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#328 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:21 pm

18z Rdps

Almost identical to the Euro Image

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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#329 Postby BigB0882 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:25 pm

How bad is the Nam for most of us with ice? How much snow does it take away from what we are hoping to get. And how close to the coast is the ice? Just immediately along the coast or further inland as well?
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#330 Postby Janie2006 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:25 pm

Ivanhater wrote:
They bumped everyone up from 70 to 80% now


I’m curiously awaiting KMOB’s afternoon discussion. I’ve seen them call many a potential winter event correctly, and I’ve seen them bust a couple….like issuing a Winter Weather Advisory only to have to turn around and upgrade it to a Warning within an hour. :lol:
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#331 Postby Jag95 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:33 pm

BigB0882 wrote:How bad is the Nam for most of us with ice? How much snow does it take away from what we are hoping to get. And how close to the coast is the ice? Just immediately along the coast or further inland as well?


The NAM shows about .5" qpf of all sleet. The snow line is right around the MS line, so you're close.
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#332 Postby BigB0882 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:37 pm

Jag95 wrote:
BigB0882 wrote:How bad is the Nam for most of us with ice? How much snow does it take away from what we are hoping to get. And how close to the coast is the ice? Just immediately along the coast or further inland as well?


The NAM shows about .5" qpf of all sleet. The snow line is right around the MS line, so you're close.


It would be heartbreaking to go from a historic snow storm to a little sleet. Yikes. I hope the others don’t follow suit. I would say the NAM is on its own but Ralph has pointed out this risk and how it happened with the last system,
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#333 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:42 pm

BigB0882 wrote:
Jag95 wrote:
BigB0882 wrote:How bad is the Nam for most of us with ice? How much snow does it take away from what we are hoping to get. And how close to the coast is the ice? Just immediately along the coast or further inland as well?


The NAM shows about .5" qpf of all sleet. The snow line is right around the MS line, so you're close.



It would be heartbreaking to go from a historic snow storm to a little sleet. Yikes. I hope the others don’t follow suit. I would say the NAM is on its own but Ralph has pointed out this risk and how it happened with the last system,


The big models went the opposite direction today moving the snow line further south. The Euro and its ensembles have been steadfast. Sure, things can change but trends have been great today
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#334 Postby Jag95 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:44 pm

Six parts. Still doesn't really say anything we don't already know.

 https://twitter.com/NWSMobile/status/1880725650908336600


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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#335 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:02 pm

BIG change in 18z GFS ....almost all snow now. Snow line much further south

1st 18z
2nd ..12z earlier todayImageImage

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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#336 Postby BigB0882 » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:04 pm

GFS keeps my hopes alive! Even if it did lower totals IMBY but it’s literally like throwing darts to figure out where the biggest totals will end up. The trend is our friend.
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#337 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:09 pm

BigB0882 wrote:GFS keeps my hopes alive! Even if it did lower totals IMBY but it’s literally like throwing darts to figure out where the biggest totals will end up. The trend is our friend.


Yeah no way to tell where the heaviest snow bands will set up but the biggest thing is the big models starting to lock in with all snow down to the coast. We could have easily trended in the wrong direction today!
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#338 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:31 pm

18z GFS Ensemble.

While the snow line issue is good. I don't like the shearing out as it moves east. If it keeps up, this could dry up for points east of Louisiana


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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#339 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:48 pm

Ivanhater wrote:18z GFS Ensemble.

While the snow line issue is good. I don't like the shearing out as it moves east. If it keeps up, this could dry up for points east of Louisiana


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Yeah, I’m getting concerned about precip amounts again. Most guidance is trending to a less and less amplified solution.
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Re: Deep South Winter 2024-2025

#340 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:55 pm

MississippiWx wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:18z GFS Ensemble.

While the snow line issue is good. I don't like the shearing out as it moves east. If it keeps up, this could dry up for points east of Louisiana


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Yeah, I’m getting concerned about precip amounts again. Most guidance is trending to a less and less amplified solution.


It almost looks like a rush of dry air from the NW erodes the shield quickly. I'll still be thrilled with a couple inches here but need that trend to stop.

We got the snow line we wanted but now this issue :double:
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