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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3281 Postby DFW Stormwatcher » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:03 pm

I haven’t seen the dramatic worst case scenario winter weather forecasts that fwd mentioned in the discussion this morning. By the language used they are not referring to this forum. Anyone know what social media forecasts nws fw keeps warning everyone to avoid?
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3282 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:04 pm

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wxman57 wrote:12Z EC temps/precip are in. Low at DFW dropped from 26 to 25 on Sunday in the latest run. Temps in the mid 30s next Wednesday during the precip.

http://wxman57.com/images/EC12ZDFW.JPG


Does that graph show a dusting of snow on the bottom? Total snow row.


I'm not sure what that is. Looking at the precip line just above that, it turns blue with temps in the 50s. Can't be snow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3283 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:06 pm

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HockeyTx82 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:12Z EC temps/precip are in. Low at DFW dropped from 26 to 25 on Sunday in the latest run. Temps in the mid 30s next Wednesday during the precip.

http://wxman57.com/images/EC12ZDFW.JPG


Does that graph show a dusting of snow on the bottom? Total snow row.


dusting or so Saturday and then a little more Wednesday yes

maybe we can get a white roof :roll:


Haha, i guess it's a bad idea to post the pics of our sleet/snow event 1 year ago today :wink:

Euro ensembles still cold. I've been harping on PV over hudson bay being the sweet spot, but if i could adjust that slightly....

Blocking near Greenland is all were missing in our equation, this would nudge the PV slightly west so it can steer HP's our direction. If we could ask for onnnneeeeee more thing.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3284 Postby Brent » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:07 pm

the Euro "snow" map had an inch for DFW too... what can go wrong? :lol:

and I'd rather not remember a year ago... another reason I've been salty :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3285 Postby orangeblood » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:12 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:
Brent wrote:
HockeyTx82 wrote:
Does that graph show a dusting of snow on the bottom? Total snow row.


dusting or so Saturday and then a little more Wednesday yes

maybe we can get a white roof :roll:


Haha, i guess it's a bad idea to post the pics of our sleet/snow event 1 year ago today :wink:

Euro ensembles still cold. I've been harping on PV over hudson bay being the sweet spot, but if i could adjust that slightly....

Blocking near Greenland is all were missing in our equation, this would nudge the PV slightly west so it can steer HP's our direction. If we could ask for onnnneeeeee more thing.


According to Euro ENS, Greenland Block forms in the 10-15 day time frame it appears

Good trend in the 10-15 as well, decent shift of the PV south and west and thus core of the cold in that direction!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3286 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:16 pm

Yep today is the one year anniversary of last year's decent snow and extreme cold. I Got down into the teens with snow still falling and then high of only 22. The next two mornings featured lows of 6 and 11. Parts of N TX bottomed out below 0.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3287 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:18 pm

Models continue to fall in line with our thoughts from early this winter of late Jan into Feb being the sweet spot for winter weather (cold and snow). Pattern showing up nicely in ensembles.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3288 Postby rwfromkansas » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:19 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:12Z EC temps/precip are in. Low at DFW dropped from 26 to 25 on Sunday in the latest run. Temps in the mid 30s next Wednesday during the precip.

http://wxman57.com/images/EC12ZDFW.JPG


That’s a week out. Those temps could +/- by 10 degrees yet. Next week is trending colder on every model so I’d bet on it being colder right now.


It was trending colder for this weekend a few days ago. Now it's looking like marginal temps again. I have learned not to bet on anything at this point.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3289 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:19 pm

Not loving how the NAM is trending weaker and weaker with the weekend storm.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3290 Postby Texas Snow » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:25 pm

Texas Snow wrote:I have lost my bookmarks for ensembles and its been so long that I don't remember which site I got them from. Any suggestions for a good site would be appreciated.


Not sure if anyone can help me out here. I know how to go to say weather.us and see individual ensembles, but what I am trying to remember is where to see all the members of a model on one screen? I've lost my bookmark somewhere but I had it last winter (not that it did me any good) Thanks in advance.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3291 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:28 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:12Z EC temps/precip are in. Low at DFW dropped from 26 to 25 on Sunday in the latest run. Temps in the mid 30s next Wednesday during the precip.

http://wxman57.com/images/EC12ZDFW.JPG


That’s a week out. Those temps could +/- by 10 degrees yet. Next week is trending colder on every model so I’d bet on it being colder right now.


It was trending colder for this weekend a few days ago. Now it's looking like marginal temps again. I have learned not to bet on anything at this point.

Difference is this storm does not have anything more than climo to support its cold. Next week has the support of the developing PV anomaly so confidence in cold is higher. As we move beyond next week the connection to the PV grows so cold is even more likely.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3292 Postby Brent » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:31 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:Not loving how the NAM is trending weaker and weaker with the weekend storm.


yeah I really thought the NAM was gonna back up the snowier solution for Saturday

Not giving me a good vibe

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Texas Snow wrote:I have lost my bookmarks for ensembles and its been so long that I don't remember which site I got them from. Any suggestions for a good site would be appreciated.


Not sure if anyone can help me out here. I know how to go to say weather.us and see individual ensembles, but what I am trying to remember is where to see all the members of a model on one screen? I've lost my bookmark somewhere but I had it last winter (not that it did me any good) Thanks in advance.


not sure about the EPS but the GEFS members can be found here https://weather.cod.edu/forecast/ GEFS>sector view>precip products>ensemble snow
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3293 Postby orangeblood » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:32 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:Not loving how the NAM is trending weaker and weaker with the weekend storm.


NAM has been terrible so far this winter, not sure I'd put much stock into it at this point!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3294 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:41 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:Not loving how the NAM is trending weaker and weaker with the weekend storm.


NAM has been terrible so far this winter, not sure I'd put much stock into it at this point!

True, wish we had a medium range model of good quality. Anyone have any opinion on the hi res Euro? Not sure the RGEM is much better than the NAm but maybe at times.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3295 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:48 pm

I know this is the Texas thread, and it is probably safe to assume that a good percentage of you all here probably did not track or monitor the December 8-10 NC/VA major winter storm like I did on the Deep South thread. But, rest assured, the NAM performed quite well with that system. I can attest to that.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3296 Postby Cerlin » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:50 pm

northjaxpro wrote:I know this is the Texas thread, and it is probably safe to assume that a good percentage of you all here probably did not track or monitor the December 8-10 NC/VA major winter storm like I did on the Deep South thread. But, rest assured, the NAM performed quite well with that system. I can attest to that.

It performs relatively well...sometimes...like in the case of that storm...but it really has underperformed in the Texas side of things.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3297 Postby weatherdude1108 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:51 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:I agree, the FV3-GFS is definitely right for NEXT week. Plan on a half foot of snow in Dallas. I guarantee it!


You serious Clark? :wink:


:lol:
Just cracks me up.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3298 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:02 pm

Cerlin wrote:
northjaxpro wrote:I know this is the Texas thread, and it is probably safe to assume that a good percentage of you all here probably did not track or monitor the December 8-10 NC/VA major winter storm like I did on the Deep South thread. But, rest assured, the NAM performed quite well with that system. I can attest to that.

It performs relatively well...sometimes...like in the case of that storm...but it really has underperformed in the Texas side of things.



I do not doubt any of what you all are saying about the NAM's performance with the Texas systems this winter thus far. These models all have certain quirks. They are not perfect of course. Overall, though, The NAM usually does well with winter time storms and synoptics, which I am sure most know already.


I admit, I am a big admirer of the NAM for winter synoptics.. :wink:
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3299 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:02 pm

orangeblood wrote:
TeamPlayersBlue wrote:
Brent wrote:
dusting or so Saturday and then a little more Wednesday yes

maybe we can get a white roof :roll:


Haha, i guess it's a bad idea to post the pics of our sleet/snow event 1 year ago today :wink:

Euro ensembles still cold. I've been harping on PV over hudson bay being the sweet spot, but if i could adjust that slightly....

Blocking near Greenland is all were missing in our equation, this would nudge the PV slightly west so it can steer HP's our direction. If we could ask for onnnneeeeee more thing.


According to Euro ENS, Greenland Block forms in the 10-15 day time frame it appears

Good trend in the 10-15 as well, decent shift of the PV south and west and thus core of the cold in that direction!!!


Yep...

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3300 Postby TheProfessor » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:06 pm

The NAM also did very well for me this past weekend. It could be a regional thing with the NAM.
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