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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4041 Postby txtwister78 » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:23 am

Ntxw wrote:Medium-long range the 0z Euro didn't look as bad as yesterday's 12z. Still questions, but I would still lean on some kind of cold dump for a period. Believe the cold air mass will overwhelm the flow.


As do I. I think the cold builds, but we see arctic air intrusions that are shallower in nature. Have to account for SE ridge influence, but if you put that much into the pattern, the threat is there for the dam to break. Interesting times ahead.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4042 Postby TropicalTundra » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:27 am

Iceresistance wrote:What the heck!? It's snowing at my area! :eek:


Some precip bands still in Oklahoma. Hi-res Models predicted it last night. Some flurries over the OKC metro too.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4043 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:35 am

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Ntxw wrote:Medium-long range the 0z Euro didn't look as bad as yesterday's 12z. Still questions, but I would still lean on some kind of cold dump for a period. Believe the cold air mass will overwhelm the flow.


As do I. I think the cold builds, but we see arctic air intrusions that are shallower in nature. Have to account for SE ridge influence, but if you put that much into the pattern, the threat is there for the dam to break. Interesting times ahead.


This is what the analog sets have been suggesting. TPV lobe is well displaced, being on one side is very cold, other is mild. But past experiences tells us to expect cold to be many of miles south from where the models tries to hold it up.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4044 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:39 am

All of the OP guidance put a 1055+ HP in NW Canada end of this week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4045 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:51 am

GFS has the SE Ridge consistent, it's closer to being as the ECR. It would be nice for it to be more poleward for us to get more snow though.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4046 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:56 am

Someone in Northern DFW is going to get the DFW Snowfall Jackpot

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4047 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:01 pm

GFS hourly has a very intense band of snow roughly from the metroplex and north (areas along the Red River as well) Tuesday late afternoon to evening. This would be anywhere from 4-8pm. SE and E Oklahoma plastered.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4048 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:02 pm

Ntxw wrote:GFS hourly has a very intense band of snow roughly from the metroplex and north (areas along the Red River as well) Tuesday late afternoon to evening. This would be anywhere from 4-8pm. SE and E Oklahoma plastered.

Like how intense? 3-4 inches per hour?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4049 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:04 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
Ntxw wrote:GFS hourly has a very intense band of snow roughly from the metroplex and north (areas along the Red River as well) Tuesday late afternoon to evening. This would be anywhere from 4-8pm. SE and E Oklahoma plastered.

Like how intense? 3-4 inches per hour?


Could be 2-3" an hour but a lot of it will melt due to warm surface temperatures.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4050 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:05 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Ntxw wrote:GFS hourly has a very intense band of snow roughly from the metroplex and north (areas along the Red River as well) Tuesday late afternoon to evening. This would be anywhere from 4-8pm. SE and E Oklahoma plastered.

Like how intense? 3-4 inches per hour?


Could be 2-3" an hour but a lot of it will melt due to warm surface temperatures.

OK Mesonet has the ground temperatures in the 40s, but when it gets down into the 20s overnight, there is going to be a lot of ice problems.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4051 Postby JayDT » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:08 pm

Iceresistance wrote:Someone in Northern DFW is going to get the DFW Snowfall Jackpot

https://s9.gifyu.com/images/12z-GEFS.png
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If that would shift another 50-100 miles south I would be very happy :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4052 Postby rwfromkansas » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:11 pm

It’s times like this I am glad I’m along 35W and north of 820 in Tarrant. NW Tarrant will get the most for Tarrant/Dallas counties. GEFS would give me 2.5-4. Hard to see exactly what color I’m in, but definitely more than 2. I think I’m barely in the 3 zone. Hope it shifts a bit south because a lot of that will melt. But, any flakes are fine so long as we get some cold before the next system.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4053 Postby Iceresistance » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:19 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:It’s times like this I am glad I’m along 35W and north of 820 in Tarrant. NW Tarrant will get the most for Tarrant/Dallas counties. GEFS would give me 2.5-4. Hard to see exactly what color I’m in, but definitely more than 2. I think I’m barely in the 3 zone.

The GEFS is the 10:1 ratio, the ratios are between 2:1 and 5:1 in Texas, while I'm at 7:1 to 8:1.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4054 Postby rwfromkansas » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:20 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
rwfromkansas wrote:It’s times like this I am glad I’m along 35W and north of 820 in Tarrant. NW Tarrant will get the most for Tarrant/Dallas counties. GEFS would give me 2.5-4. Hard to see exactly what color I’m in, but definitely more than 2. I think I’m barely in the 3 zone.

The GEFS is the 10:1 ratio, the ratios are between 2:1 and 5:1 in Texas, while I'm at 7:1 to 8:1.


I’m sure half of it would melt as it falls here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4055 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:23 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
rwfromkansas wrote:It’s times like this I am glad I’m along 35W and north of 820 in Tarrant. NW Tarrant will get the most for Tarrant/Dallas counties. GEFS would give me 2.5-4. Hard to see exactly what color I’m in, but definitely more than 2. I think I’m barely in the 3 zone.

The GEFS is the 10:1 ratio, the ratios are between 2:1 and 5:1 in Texas, while I'm at 7:1 to 8:1.


I’m sure half of it would melt as it falls here.


Snow depth is a better indicator for what sticks. Even for most of Oklahoma is just an inch or two from the GFS. Us less than 1". Assuming it is correct, but for a short time will look dramatic in the air with heavy qpf cottonballs.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4056 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:25 pm

rwfromkansas wrote:It’s times like this I am glad I’m along 35W and north of 820 in Tarrant. NW Tarrant will get the most for Tarrant/Dallas counties. GEFS would give me 2.5-4. Hard to see exactly what color I’m in, but definitely more than 2. I think I’m barely in the 3 zone. Hope it shifts a bit south because a lot of that will melt. But, any flakes are fine so long as we get some cold before the next system.

Same here. I think I am in the 2 or 3 inch zone. Most will melt but I bet some folks in DFW witness some really heavy snow regardless of accumulations. Will be pretty to see huge wet flakes flying around.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4057 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:55 pm

Sliding down the Great Basin between Nevada and Utah. There's a Herbert Box in the Atlantic for South Florida. For us a S/SE diving system through the Great Basin are always of great interest in the southern plains.

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4058 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:46 pm

Quite interesting that the Euro has trended away from sending the trough out into the Pacific Ocean. Today's run is more western/southwest trough which would help open up the floodgates like the others. So yesterday's run could've been a one off fluke.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4059 Postby rwfromkansas » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:48 pm

West Central KS had nice snow yesterday 7-11 inches. My hometown got 3.5 along 35.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#4060 Postby harp » Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:50 pm

Ntxw wrote:Quite interesting that the Euro has trended away from sending the trough out into the Pacific Ocean. Today's run is more western/southwest trough which would help open up the floodgates like the others. So yesterday's run could've been a one off fluke.

Am I interpreting this to mean more cold air for Texas and Louisiana? Thanks.
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