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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#5801 Postby jasons2k » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:23 pm

Snowman67 wrote:
angletontx2 wrote:
ive got a wintry mix...freezing rain and sleet...is it possible that snow could mix in with this?


Depends on if the temps in the upper levels get cold enough to support snow. Hou/Galv NWS goes over this in their latest discussion - http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php ... glossary=1


The upper levels are and will be plenty cold.

The question is if whether or not a mid-level layer of warm air will advect north into SE Texas. If it does, this warm later will melt the falling snow before it reaches the colder surface layer. Then it will either refreeze into sleet or melt on contact (freezing rain).

There is alot of uncertainty if this warm layer will actually materialize and if so, how far north/inland it will advect. Right now, it's just a model depiction, and a new one at that.

The gist of the NWS discussion is that their best guess is that it will get about as far as the US 59 Corridor/downtown.

There is still a decent shot the precip along the coast begins as snow, but as the warm mid-layer moves inland, it will changeover to sleet and possibly freezing rain. The surface will remain cold and dry enough to support frozen precip. however, which is either good news or bad news depending on how much you like heat and electricity.
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#5802 Postby SaskatchewanScreamer » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:24 pm

This is what it looks like when a fire occurs when one is at -30 with windchill : http://www.wfrfire.com/hotshot/moosejaw.htm

This is what it looks like here when one swims outside at -40 F : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... aw_spa.JPG

We also often get the sleet rains and heavy rains just before the deep freeze moves in (and my city is situated in a valley). Only the ice here stays for the whole winter when that happens. It didn't often happen in years past but in the last 20 years we've had it occur more than I'd like to remember.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#5803 Postby CajunMama » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:25 pm

Winter Storm Watch for Houston:

Winter Storm Watch

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
1144 AM CST WED FEB 2 2011

...WINTER STORM WATCH FOR ALL OF SOUTHEAST TEXAS FROM NOON CST
THURSDAY TO NOON CST FRIDAY...

.AN UPPER LEVEL STORM SYSTEM APPROACHING FROM THE WEST WILL
COMBINE WITH INCREASING MOISTURE AND COLD TEMPERATURES IN THE
ATMOSPHERE TO GENERATE A MIX OF SNOW...SLEET...AND FREEZING RAIN
ACROSS SOUTHEAST TEXAS THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING.

TXZ163-164-176>179-195>200-210>214-226-227-235>238-030145-
/O.NEW.KHGX.WS.A.0001.110203T1800Z-110204T1800Z/
AUSTIN-BRAZORIA-BRAZOS-BURLESON-CHAMBERS-COLORADO-FORT BEND-
GALVESTON-GRIMES-HARRIS-HOUSTON-JACKSON-LIBERTY-MADISON-MATAGORDA-
MONTGOMERY-POLK-SAN JACINTO-TRINITY-WALKER-WALLER-WASHINGTON-
WHARTON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...ALVIN...ANAHUAC...ANGLETON...BAY CITY...
BELLVILLE...BRENHAM...BROOKSHIRE...BRYAN...CALDWELL...CLEVELAND...
COLDSPRING...COLLEGE STATION...COLUMBUS...CONROE...CORRIGAN...
CROCKETT...DAYTON...EAGLE LAKE...EDNA...EL CAMPO...FREEPORT...
FRIENDSWOOD...GALVESTON...GROVETON...HEMPSTEAD...HOUSTON...
HUMBLE...HUNTSVILLE...KATY...LAKE JACKSON...LAKE SOMERVILLE...
LEAGUE CITY...LIBERTY...LIVINGSTON...MADISONVILLE...
MISSOURI CITY...MONT BELVIEU...NAVASOTA...ONALASKA...PALACIOS...
PASADENA...PEARLAND...PIERCE...PRAIRIE VIEW...RICHMOND...
ROSENBERG...SEALY...SHEPHERD...SUGAR LAND...TEXAS CITY...
THE WOODLANDS...TOMBALL...TRINITY...WEIMAR...WHARTON...WILLIS...
WINNIE
1144 AM CST WED FEB 2 2011

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
FRIDAY MORNING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN HOUSTON/GALVESTON HAS ISSUED A
WINTER STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM THURSDAY AFTERNOON
THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING.

AN UPPER LEVEL STORM SYSTEM APPROACHING FROM THE WEST WILL
COMBINE WITH INCREASING MOISTURE AND COLD TEMPERATURES IN THE
ATMOSPHERE TO GENERATE A MIX OF SNOW...SLEET...AND FREEZING RAIN
ACROSS SOUTHEAST TEXAS THURSDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING.
THE PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN THURSDAY AFTERNOON
ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE AREA...AND SPREAD AREA
WIDE BY EARLY EVENING. THE WINTRY MIX WILL CONTINUE THURSDAY NIGHT
THEN TAPER OFF AROUND MID MORNING FRIDAY.

A MIXTURE OF SNOW...SLEET...AND FREEZING RAIN IS EXPECTED EAST OF
A LINE FROM MATAGORDA TO DOWNTOWN HOUSTON TO RYE IN LIBERTY
COUNTY. OVER THE COASTAL SECTIONS OF BRAZORIA COUNTY...AND MOST OF
GALVESTON...CHAMBERS...AND LIBERTY COUNTIES THIS COULD END UP A
PRIMARILY ICE EVENT WITH SIGNIFICANT GLAZING ON ROADWAYS. TO THE
NORTH AND WEST OF THIS LINE...A MIX OF SNOW AND SLEET ARE
EXPECTED...WITH ALL SNOW ACROSS THE NORTHWEST HALF OF SOUTHEAST
TEXAS.

SNOW AND SLEET ACCUMULATIONS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES ARE EXPECTED...WITH
LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS POSSIBLE. IN THE FREEZING RAIN THREAT
AREA...ICE ACCUMULATIONS OF UP TO ONE-TENTH OF AN INCH ARE
EXPECTED. THIS INCLUDES THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN PORTIONS OF THE
METRO HOUSTON AREA AND THE GALVESTON AREA AS WELL.

SURFACE TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO BE IN THE MID 20S TO LOWER
30S THROUGH THE DURATION OF THE EVENT. THIS MEANS THAT
ROADWAYS...ESPECIALLY ELEVATED SURFACES LIKE BRIDGES AND
OVERPASSES...ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO ICE OVER THAN DURING THE
EVENTS SOUTHEAST TEXAS EXPERIENCED LAST WINTER. ROADWAYS WILL
LIKELY BECOME ICY AND HAZARDOUS THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY MORNING.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT
SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL.
CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.
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#5804 Postby iorange55 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:26 pm

SaskatchewanScreamer wrote:This is what it looks like when a fire occurs when one is at -30 with windchill : http://www.wfrfire.com/hotshot/moosejaw.htm

This is what it looks like here when one swims outside at -40 F : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... aw_spa.JPG

We also often get the sleet rains and heavy rains just before the deep freeze moves in (and my city is situated in a valley). Only the ice here stays for the whole winter when that happens. It didn't often happen in years past but in the last 20 years we've had it occur more than I'd like to remember.



Wow that is some crazy cold up there. One year we'll have to switch places.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#5805 Postby Brandon8181 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:27 pm

Any thoughts for north central Texas fir Monday?
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#5806 Postby DonWrk » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:28 pm

SaskatchewanScreamer wrote:This is what it looks like when a fire occurs when one is at -30 with windchill : http://www.wfrfire.com/hotshot/moosejaw.htm

This is what it looks like here when one swims outside at -40 F : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... aw_spa.JPG

We also often get the sleet rains and heavy rains just before the deep freeze moves in (and my city is situated in a valley). Only the ice here stays for the whole winter when that happens. It didn't often happen in years past but in the last 20 years we've had it occur more than I'd like to remember.


Wow those pics are crazy! Can't believe what it would be like to be out in that stuff. On another note, I can't believe how this stuff melts when the sun comes out. When it was 14 yesterday and the sun came out you would start seeing water dripping off of stuff.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#5807 Postby iorange55 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:31 pm

Brandon8181 wrote:Any thoughts for north central Texas fir Monday?



I think we have a shot of seeing some snow next week. Seems like some of the models are hinting at some energy lagging behind after the cold. We'll have to see how it all plays out. If it comes together I'm pretty sure this one would be strictly a snow event.
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#5808 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:34 pm

wellll we now think we have a busted pipe underground at work. Water is rushing out to the street. Could be sprinkler system, cross your fingers
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#5809 Postby SaskatchewanScreamer » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:35 pm

I really do think you folks should eye a winter holiday up here (try a day or two in my town ....the spa has visitors from Europe often as it has mineral waters comparable to the dead sea and some of the best in Europe) and then head to the Canadian Rockies for a ski trip (and where it tends to be warmer ;)
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#5810 Postby citymgr » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:36 pm

Latest forecast from LCRA

A dangerous, bitterly cold arctic air mass continues to spread into Texas from the Plains States, bringing some of the coldest air our region has seen in a number of years. Official low temperatures this morning included 18 degrees at Austin-Camp Mabry, 17 degrees at Austin-Bergstrom, 19 degrees at San Antonio, 19 degrees at College Station, 21 degrees at Houston Intercontinental, 16 degrees at Temple, 10 degrees at Brownwood and 23 degrees at Palacios.
According to LCRA’s Hydromet, low temperatures were between 7 and 10 degrees across the northern Hill Country, in the lower teens across much of the rest of the Hill Country and the middle and upper teens across Central Texas. Temperatures in the upper teens were observed as far south as the Interstate 10 corridor. South of I-10, lows were generally between 19 and 22 degrees.

Morning satellite images show widespread clouds covering much of West, Central and South Texas. There were some breaks in the clouds noted across East and southeast Texas. Today’s clouds are the result of some mid-level moisture and weak atmospheric lift spreading northeast out of Mexico. Unfortunately, it looks like a mostly cloudy sky will continue across the area for much of the day and this will limit the amount of warming. Today, I expect the temperature to stay below freezing across the Hill Country and most if not all of Central Texas. And this period of temperatures below freezing may continue through tomorrow as well. Today’s high temperatures will include the low 20s across most of the Hill Country, the mid and upper 20s across Central Texas and the low 30s across the coastal plains region. North winds of 10-20 mph look to continue into this evening, causing dangerously low wind chill readings.

The sky will be mostly cloudy tonight and temperatures will again be very cold. Lows Thursday morning should be very similar to what we saw earlier this morning. Upper single digits to low teens across the northern and western Hill Country, low teens across the rest of Hill Country, middle to upper teens across Central Texas and the upper teens to low 20s across the coastal plains region.

Thursday’s weather will again be very cold while widespread clouds continue across most of the region. High temperatures will be about the same to just a tad higher than today’s readings. Highs will include the mid and upper 20s across the Hill Country, the upper 20s to 30 degrees across Central Texas and the low to mid 30s across the coastal plains region.

By Thursday afternoon, our attention will then turn to the next wave of low pressure that has tracked south across the Rockies into northern Mexico. This system is expected to cause a period of wintery weather across parts of Central Texas and the coastal plains region Thursday night into Friday morning. Today’s forecast models have trended toward a bit stronger confidence in this wintery forecast. With this particular system, the area most likely to be impacted will be the eastern half of Central Texas and the coastal plains region. The wave of low pressure over Mexico is forecast to begin moving northeast toward Texas by Thursday evening, pulling moisture north from the Gulf of Mexico. Areas to the south of Interstate 10 could begin to see the development of some light freezing rain, sleet or even snow flurries by late Thursday afternoon. A mixture of sleet and snow looks to expand in coverage across the coastal plains region Thursday evening and Thursday night. Light snow is also expected to develop further north into parts of Central Texas and the eastern Hill Country Thursday night. This period of snow is expected to continue into Friday morning, with the activity ending from west to east late morning into the early afternoon hours.

Today’s forecast data indicates the coastal plains region could see ice accumulations to near 1/10th inch and snowfall accumulations of 2 to 3 inches between Thursday night and midday Friday. Further inland, we could see snowfall accumulations of 1 to 2 inches from southeast of Austin to near La Grange. In the Austin area and along the Interstate 35 corridor, there is the potential for snowfall accumulations of one half to three quarters inch. Across the eastern Hill Country, it appears there will just be a light dusting of snow.

All of the snowfall should end around midday Friday, followed by clearing, scattered sunshine and slightly warmer temperatures in the afternoon. I expect readings to rise into the mid and upper 30s. But freezing temperatures will return Friday night. Lows Saturday morning will include the low 20s Hill Country, mid 20s Central Texas and low to mid 20s coastal plains region.

Mostly sunny and milder weather will develop this weekend as the cold area of high pressure finally begins moving off to the east. High temperatures Saturday will be in the low and mid 50s, warming to near 60-62 degrees on Sunday. Lows Sunday morning will be mostly in the low 30s. But don’t think this is the end of the cold weather. Today’s forecast solutions continue to indicate another blast of cold air will arrive late next Monday night/early Tuesday. Dry but cold weather is expected for most of next week. However, the magnitude of this next batch of cold air is not expected to be quite as cold as what we are experiencing this week.

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#5811 Postby txagwxman » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:38 pm

Euro doing it again...MORE SNOW NEXT WEEK
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#5812 Postby CaptinCrunch » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:41 pm

txagwxman wrote:Euro doing it again...MORE SNOW NEXT WEEK



Hi temp yesterday at the Casa 19, so far it has only hit 14, WC @ 4 above
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#5813 Postby iorange55 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:42 pm

SaskatchewanScreamer wrote:I really do think you folks should eye a winter holiday up here (try a day or two in my town ....the spa has visitors from Europe often as it has mineral waters comparable to the dead sea and some of the best in Europe) and then head to the Canadian Rockies for a ski trip (and where it tends to be warmer ;)


Skiing is definitely on my to do list. I went up to the mountains in Colorado when I was three, but of course I don't remember it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#5814 Postby Ntxw » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:42 pm

I am tired of this ice. Driving in it is a nightmare. No sun here and hopefully it will come out to melt some on the pavements. The sand and stuff they put over the main thoroughs is freezing with the melted liquid...
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#5815 Postby iorange55 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:42 pm

txagwxman wrote:Euro doing it again...MORE SNOW NEXT WEEK


I could have sworn Texas didn't even have winters... :double:
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#5816 Postby SaskatchewanScreamer » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:48 pm

((((((((((Texas))))))))

iorange it's time to go skiing (pick Banff you won't regret it and it will most definitely give you memories for a lifetime).
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#5817 Postby Brent » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:49 pm

Ntxw wrote:I am tired of this ice. Driving in it is a nightmare. No sun here and hopefully it will come out to melt some on the pavements. The sand and stuff they put over the main thoroughs is freezing with the melted liquid...


Some places here were a mess for 3-4 days after the Jan 9/10th storm. We had a similar situation then, no snow, just a lot of sleet... on everything... it takes forever to melt. I still had sleet in areas where sun couldn't get to it 6 days later while it was pushing 60 out.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#5818 Postby Ntxw » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:51 pm

Brent wrote:Some places here were a mess for 3-4 days after the Jan 9/10th storm. We had a similar situation then, no snow, just a lot of sleet... on everything... it takes forever to melt. I still had sleet in areas where sun couldn't get to it 6 days later while it was pushing 60 out.


I feel your pain. It's horrendous. To make it worst it's been sitting in the teens all day and probably tomorrow too. You try to melt something off it freezes right back over 10 mins later. Tbh the main roads in some places are much worse than the side ones. The stuff they are using to 'treat' the roads = void.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#5819 Postby natecast » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:54 pm

Hey guys, checking in from frigid NW OKC, with a current temp of 10. Be very careful with your pipes down there. Just heard from a friend that their parents have had a pipe burst and flood their house. Drip those faucets!

We're supposed to get to 3 below zero tonight. Yikes.
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Re: Texas Winter 2010-2011

#5820 Postby serenata09 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:54 pm

Cars are sliding around all over the place right now. Seems like the ice melts a little at the surface, makes it super slick, and then it refreezes almost immediately. Craziness.
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