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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5921 Postby orangeblood » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:37 pm

Stratton23 wrote:18z Euro came in aggressive, thats definitely a winter storm


Trending back towards its originally solution it had for several days…here are the Kuchera rations, may be a little higher

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5922 Postby bubba hotep » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:39 pm

18z Euro is making some positive shifts through 90 hrs.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5923 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:40 pm

What is the 18z euro further down the Gulf coast?
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5924 Postby orangeblood » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:44 pm

Ivanhater wrote:What is the 18z euro further down the Gulf coast?



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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5925 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:46 pm

Wow, Wichita, KS has had at least 2 inches of snow on the ground for at least 12 days, the most since 1993.

That is rare.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5926 Postby Ivanhater » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:49 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:What is the 18z euro further down the Gulf coast?



https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-deterministic/se/total_snow_kuchera/1737050400/1737568800-DFTNk9Ag8go.png

Thank you!
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5927 Postby Charleswachal » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:57 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Stratton23 wrote:18z Euro came in aggressive, thats definitely a winter storm


Trending back towards its originally solution it had for several days…here are the Kuchera rations, may be a little higher

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-deterministic/tx/total_snow_kuchera/1737050400/1737568800-3FToNVz1JqQ.png


This would by far be the biggest birthday gift I could ever imagine for the 22nd. 6 inches of snow in Houston would be downright crazy.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5928 Postby TheAustinMan » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:02 pm

A little comparison with the last winter wx event here. We've got the general themes and a broad sketch of ingredients, but details will need to be hashed out.

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5929 Postby bubba hotep » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:09 pm

18z Euro bumps the 1" line up closer to DFW, and with ratios likely better than depicted, it wouldn't take much more of a north trend.

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5930 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:09 pm

TheAustinMan wrote:A little comparison with the last winter wx event here. We've got the general themes and a broad sketch of ingredients, but details will need to be hashed out.

https://i.imgur.com/ur91yp3.png



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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5931 Postby sphelps8681 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:10 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:What is the 18z euro further down the Gulf coast?



https://images.weatherbell.com/model/ecmwf-deterministic/se/total_snow_kuchera/1737050400/1737568800-DFTNk9Ag8go.png


It is hard to tell but looks like over 6in over me. Lord have mercy.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5932 Postby iorange55 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:14 pm

Latest from board favorite, Evan Andrews…

By now we all know it's going to get cold Sunday into next week.
But how cold?
And is it a DRY cold or will it snow?
Time for a little science (my apologies in advance).

Four common models. All valid MLK (Monday) morning.
The US is deep into Arctic air east of the Rockies. But how deep for us here in NTX? Not as deep as you think. If you follow the streamlines (purple arrow) you notice the plunge coming straight from the poles turns away from NTX...somewhere up near Kansas/OK. While this bunch of maps doesn't show surface temps (because I don't believe in showing modeled data that far out) it looks as if we'll be in the low 30s here with lows near 20. Some teens. A little colder than the last outbreak but not near records. Or historic cold. Or 2021 cold. OY, the crap that gets on social media. :D
Also, it looks to last through Wednesday AM before we start heading back up. So roughly 84 hours in the coldest air.

As for precip? This is nothing like last weeks system. I've highlighted on each one a disturbance that could be a trigger IF it were to phase (combine) with the main jet stream. If it doesn't then the odds of seeing anything here outside of some light snow or heavy flurries looks minimal. The only model that hints at phasing is the ICON and that's generally a crappy model anyway. No offense to the Germans...but it's rarely used here. The Euro shows no phasing. The GFS that two days ago hinted at phasing is delayed now until it gets warmer mid-week and the Ensemble (GFS) shows minimal signs. The Euro ensemble (not shown is similar). There is weak lift Monday into Tuesday AM, so at best we'll see clouds...and a low chance for a dusting of fluffy snow. No snowballs or snowmen as the air is pretty "low moisture".

While things can always change because models are...well models (and not the real thing)...we are getting into the 4 day window where changes are usually smaller.

Until then? Enjoy the 60s and my "pick day of the week" :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5933 Postby PTrackerLA » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:25 pm

What's amazing are the temps on the Euro when the snow is falling, especially in South LA. Primarily in the mid 20's (falling well into the teens Tuesday night) which would absolutely paralyze these areas if we get 3"-6" of snow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5934 Postby snownado » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:26 pm

iorange55 wrote:Latest from board favorite, Evan Andrews…

By now we all know it's going to get cold Sunday into next week.
But how cold?
And is it a DRY cold or will it snow?
Time for a little science (my apologies in advance).

Four common models. All valid MLK (Monday) morning.
The US is deep into Arctic air east of the Rockies. But how deep for us here in NTX? Not as deep as you think. If you follow the streamlines (purple arrow) you notice the plunge coming straight from the poles turns away from NTX...somewhere up near Kansas/OK. While this bunch of maps doesn't show surface temps (because I don't believe in showing modeled data that far out) it looks as if we'll be in the low 30s here with lows near 20. Some teens. A little colder than the last outbreak but not near records. Or historic cold. Or 2021 cold. OY, the crap that gets on social media. :D
Also, it looks to last through Wednesday AM before we start heading back up. So roughly 84 hours in the coldest air.

As for precip? This is nothing like last weeks system. I've highlighted on each one a disturbance that could be a trigger IF it were to phase (combine) with the main jet stream. If it doesn't then the odds of seeing anything here outside of some light snow or heavy flurries looks minimal. The only model that hints at phasing is the ICON and that's generally a crappy model anyway. No offense to the Germans...but it's rarely used here. The Euro shows no phasing. The GFS that two days ago hinted at phasing is delayed now until it gets warmer mid-week and the Ensemble (GFS) shows minimal signs. The Euro ensemble (not shown is similar). There is weak lift Monday into Tuesday AM, so at best we'll see clouds...and a low chance for a dusting of fluffy snow. No snowballs or snowmen as the air is pretty "low moisture".

While things can always change because models are...well models (and not the real thing)...we are getting into the 4 day window where changes are usually smaller.

Until then? Enjoy the 60s and my "pick day of the week" :D


I read all of that with a heavy NYC accent (since that's where he's from). :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5935 Postby txtwister78 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:29 pm

Just for fun but the Euro AI did look more bullish on its 12z run. Will be interesting to see if this is what we start trending toward.

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5936 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:33 pm

snownado wrote:
iorange55 wrote:Latest from board favorite, Evan Andrews…

By now we all know it's going to get cold Sunday into next week.
But how cold?
And is it a DRY cold or will it snow?
Time for a little science (my apologies in advance).

Four common models. All valid MLK (Monday) morning.
The US is deep into Arctic air east of the Rockies. But how deep for us here in NTX? Not as deep as you think. If you follow the streamlines (purple arrow) you notice the plunge coming straight from the poles turns away from NTX...somewhere up near Kansas/OK. While this bunch of maps doesn't show surface temps (because I don't believe in showing modeled data that far out) it looks as if we'll be in the low 30s here with lows near 20. Some teens. A little colder than the last outbreak but not near records. Or historic cold. Or 2021 cold. OY, the crap that gets on social media. :D
Also, it looks to last through Wednesday AM before we start heading back up. So roughly 84 hours in the coldest air.

As for precip? This is nothing like last weeks system. I've highlighted on each one a disturbance that could be a trigger IF it were to phase (combine) with the main jet stream. If it doesn't then the odds of seeing anything here outside of some light snow or heavy flurries looks minimal. The only model that hints at phasing is the ICON and that's generally a crappy model anyway. No offense to the Germans...but it's rarely used here. The Euro shows no phasing. The GFS that two days ago hinted at phasing is delayed now until it gets warmer mid-week and the Ensemble (GFS) shows minimal signs. The Euro ensemble (not shown is similar). There is weak lift Monday into Tuesday AM, so at best we'll see clouds...and a low chance for a dusting of fluffy snow. No snowballs or snowmen as the air is pretty "low moisture".

While things can always change because models are...well models (and not the real thing)...we are getting into the 4 day window where changes are usually smaller.

Until then? Enjoy the 60s and my "pick day of the week" :D


I read all of that with a heavy NYC accent (since that's where he's from). :lol:

I mean he’s not wrong, but it just wouldn’t be the same without his “old man yells at cloud” energy
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5937 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:45 pm

Driving to Uncertain Texas Sunday for a quick family visit. It would be nice to drive home Monday evening with some wind blown light to moderate snow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5938 Postby Texas Snow » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:59 pm

utpmg wrote:So, I'm leaving Austin Saturday for 5 days of camping in the Big Bend area. (I'm gonna leave my water off!) What I've been gathering so far is that out there the forecasts have been consistently dry over that period, looks like lows maybe 20-25 at worst now. More concerned with wind, but it seems that's mostly Saturday night Sunday morning after FROPA.


We are going to Alpine to visit friends this weekend. Headed to the park Saturday, probably hike in the Basin and maybe head across the border to Boquillas. Perhaps our paths will cross.
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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5939 Postby bubba hotep » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:15 pm

Trend on the Euro EPS from 06z - 12z - 18z today.

 https://x.com/whatisthisrds/status/1880060791694717260

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Re: Texas Winter 2024-2025

#5940 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:18 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Trend on the Euro EPS from 06z - 12z - 18z today.

 https://x.com/whatisthisrds/status/1880060791694717260


Lets keep this moving north without robbing our friends to the south of their winter fun!!
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