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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#801 Postby EnnisTx » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:55 am

If you push that 100 miles Northeast, I'll by it!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#802 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:06 am

I'd say choosy to half of euro ensemble members have snow within 100 miles of DFW. More than has have snow in Abilene. Only a couple for NE TX. Many in OK. On almost all it is a bullseye pattern vs a streak so only a small area gets hit hard. I'll take not being the target at this range. All other models are north of the Euro right now. The NAM is the weakest but this is really long range for the NAM.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#803 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:08 am

Another 27 degree morning here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#804 Postby AubreyStorm » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:09 am

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#805 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:25 am

DFW airport picked up the 9th freeze of the season this morning.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#806 Postby weatherdude1108 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:29 am

I took out some trash to the can at the street this morning, and there was a coating of ice on the trash can lid. It's sunny and clear as a bell outside. Just dew I'm assuming that became frost. It was around 35 where the temperature sensor was located, but obviously chillier at the surface.
:lol: :cold: :froze:

I've noticed temperatures seem to be a bit colder this year, constant 30s rising to the 40s and 50s max more often than not, rather than rollercoastering from the 40s to the 70s/near 80 the past couple years, or a deep freeze to near 80 a couple days later.lol

We're actually having the consistent Fall/Winter temps that I remember experiencing as a kid, putting the coats on at high school football games, playing outside in coats blowing steam, etc. The fronts that move through seem to be packing more of a punch, and keep temps down longer, not rebounding much, which I am cool with. :) The snow pack up north I guess is helping with that, along with the 7 to 10 inches of snow around the Lubbock area. :P Keeps me in the holiday spirit! :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#807 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:42 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:Another 27 degree morning here.

Same here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#808 Postby wxman22 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:45 am

12z NAM shifted the system further to the south and now looks more like the Euro fwiw

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#809 Postby Ntxw » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:51 am

LaLa NAM does a lot of dynamic cooling southwest and south of the intense ULL. Surface is marginal much of it being brought down from the ULL itself. If the low is deeper in real time we might have a chance at some heavy wet snow to end the week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#810 Postby dhweather » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:05 am

Hey, it's only 384 hours out. :lol:

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#811 Postby gpsnowman » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:12 am

:uarrow: Looks great. I am ready for a good ole fashioned blue norther. Let the arctic open up for business!!! Hopefully we start seeing frequent signs of the talked about colder regime setting up later this month.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#812 Postby wxman57 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:14 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:I'd say choosy to half of euro ensemble members have snow within 100 miles of DFW. More than has have snow in Abilene. Only a couple for NE TX. Many in OK. On almost all it is a bullseye pattern vs a streak so only a small area gets hit hard. I'll take not being the target at this range. All other models are north of the Euro right now. The NAM is the weakest but this is really long range for the NAM.


I can't figure out what you just said. Seems like some words were left out, thoughts were jumbled. First two sentences, in particular...
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#813 Postby wxman57 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:21 am

Thursday's storm system will be passing well to the south of my weekend destination - Woodstock, IL. Heading up there for my sister-in-law's Christmas party. Woodstock is located west of Chicago. It's where the movie "Groundhog Day" was filmed. We'll be staying at the same bed & breakfast where Bill Murray stayed in the movie. It's only a couple blocks from my sister-in-law's house. It would seem that warm air is following me up there, as this weekend will be mostly above freezing. In fact, some of the warmest temps they've seen in the past month (to low 40s). Don't worry, I'll be returning to Houston on Sunday afternoon, and I'll bring the warm air back with me.

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#814 Postby gpsnowman » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:26 am

:uarrow: Wrong. You will wake up every day for the rest of your life at 6 a.m. to the Sonny and Cher song "I got you Babe" with subfreezing temps and snow!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#815 Postby Snowflake7 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:11 am

Well Monday rears its ugly head again..... 15 days out for some action I see. Definitely a pleasant surprise having to scrape my windshield this morning. :cold:
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#816 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:15 am

12z GFS trends in the right direction and timing is as good as it gets with this occurring at night.

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#817 Postby orangeblood » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:22 am

bubba hotep wrote:12z GFS trends in the right direction and timing is as good as it gets with this occurring at night.



Yep, beautiful setup right there....bowling bowl storms can be fun although very short-lived with snow vanishing almost as quickly as it falls but considering the snow drought we're under, we'll take anything at this point!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#818 Postby EnnisTx » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:35 am

wxman57 wrote:Thursday's storm system will be passing well to the south of my weekend destination - Woodstock, IL. Heading up there for my sister-in-law's Christmas party. Woodstock is located west of Chicago. It's where the movie "Groundhog Day" was filmed. We'll be staying at the same bed & breakfast where Bill Murray stayed in the movie. It's only a couple blocks from my sister-in-law's house. It would seem that warm air is following me up there, as this weekend will be mostly above freezing. In fact, some of the warmest temps they've seen in the past month (to low 40s). Don't worry, I'll be returning to Houston on Sunday afternoon, and I'll bring the warm air back with me.

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I'm thinking that everyone wants you to climb back into your hole and we have another 4 months of winter! :moon: :moon: :moon:
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#819 Postby orangeblood » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:14 pm

Good discussion and advice from the FTW NWS office this morning....

Following the cold frontal passage, the concerns will shift to
a potential changeover to wintry weather across parts of the area
late Thursday into Friday. There is high confidence that
precipitation will linger behind the front in the northwest
quadrant of the low due to strong lingering isentropic ascent and
mid-level frontogenesis. What remains uncertain however, are the
temperature profiles. Typically with this type of scenario, you
need a blast of subfreezing air initially since lift is mainly
driven by warm advection. If temperatures through the column
already begin near or above freezing, the additional warm
advection needed for lift will only act to warm the column
further, resulting in liquid precipitation. At this time, models
are not very aggressive with the arrival of subfreezing air,
particularly in the lowest 3 kft. While there would be plenty of
lift and saturation within the dendritic growth zone aloft with
this setup, temperatures through the low levels are progged to
remain in the upper 30s and low 40s, more than sufficient to melt
snow as it falls to the surface. Unless models are drastically
underestimating the cold air advection with this system (which is
possible), predominantly stratiform rain would occur late Thursday
into Friday. If by some chance more intense cold advection was to
occur behind the front, a changeover to snow would certainly be
possible.
At this time, only stratiform rain is in the forecast
across North/Central Texas, as snowfall is still the outlier
among solutions and only represented in about 10% of GEFS
members.

In this type of scenario, you will undoubtedly come across model
snowfall plots plastered on social media. It`s important to
remember that model algorithms for determining precip type are
highly unreliable for a myriad of reasons, and many times are
just flat out bad. Model snowfall should never be taken at face
value without performing a thorough top-down analysis of the
thermal/moisture profiles. For instance, models would suggest
multi-inch snow totals with this system even though they
simultaneously forecast surface temperatures in the 40s. We`ll of
course continue monitoring this potential over the coming days
and make any necessary adjustments as new data becomes available.
The bottom line here is that some relatively abrupt and
potentially significant changes could be made to the forecast
without much notice with this system, so folks should keep an eye
on the forecast through the end of the week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#820 Postby spencer817 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:35 pm

Fv3 would be awesome if it were just a bit cooler!
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