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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#8081 Postby Storm Tracker SA-CS » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:41 pm

oh but isnt the track trending further and further south?
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#8082 Postby hb905 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:41 pm

but wont the temps and ground temps be too warm for any snow south of the metroplex?
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#8083 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:13 pm

San Angelo has posted up winter storm watches for most of it's area as well as the Midland\Odessa office..
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#8084 Postby Weatherdude20 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:33 pm

I can't believe the cut off is Johnson and Ellis county, I would (Just me? :( ) definatly extend the Winter Strom watch atleast along and south of I-20. They didn't include DFW.
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#8085 Postby srainhoutx » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:34 pm

:uarrow: HGX mentioning the possibility, but will wait a bit longer...

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
322 PM CST SUN FEB 21 2010

.DISCUSSION...
SHWR AND ISOLATED TSTM ACTIVITY IS CURRENTLY MOSTLY EAST OF THE
AREA AND OFFSHORE. WILL CARRY A SLIGHT CHC POP FOR EXTREME
EASTERN AREAS FOR EARLY THIS EVENING AND HAVE A CHANCE OFFSHORE.
THE SFC PLOT SHOWS THE DRY LINE HAS ADVANCED TO THE WESTERN EDGE
OF THE CWA AND IT WILL LIKELY PUSH A LITTLE FURTHER EAST THE NEXT
COUPLE OF HOURS AND THEN STALL. A CF WILL MERGE WITH THIS FEATURE
AND PUSH THROUGH THE AREA OVERNIGHT.

ALREADY HAVE DENSE FOG AT GLS AND EXPECT THIS FOG TO PERSIST UNTIL
THE CF PASSAGE IN THE 7-10Z PERIOD. MAY SEE DENSE FOG DEVELOP IN
THE 2ND INLAND TIER COUNTIES LATER THIS EVE...BUT THIS FOG MAY BE
SHORT LIVED WITH THE FRONT EXPECTED TO DISSIPATE THE INLAND FOG
AROUND MIDNIGHT. FOR NOW...WILL HAVE AN ADVISORY FOR THE UPPER
COASTAL COUNTIES AND MONITOR FOR FURTHER EXPANSION IF NECESSARY
LATER THIS EVE.

THE MAIN FORECAST ISSUE IS THE WINTER WEATHER EXPECTED TUE AFT AND
NIGHT ACROSS THE N/NW PORTIONS OF THE AREA. THE LATEST GFS IS
INDICATING THAT WE COULD SEE ACCUMULATIONS OF GREATER THAN AN INCH
ALONG AND NORTH OF A CALDWELL TO TRINITY LINE. MAY SEE
ACCUMULATIONS OF GREATER THAN 2 INCHES A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH THAN
THIS LINE. IT IS ALL GOING TO DEPEND ON WHERE MESOSCALE BANDING
SETS UP. WE HAVE THE LUXURY OF A LITTLE MORE TIME BEFORE DECIDING
ON A WINTER STORM WATCH...BUT THIS IS A POSSIBILITY FOR A FEW OF
OUR N/NW COUNTIES. STAY TUNED. FURTHER SOUTH...WE COULD BE IN AN
ADVISORY SITUATION FOR A MIX OF SNOW AND RAIN. HARD TO DRAW THIS
LINE ATTM.


STILL SUPPORT FROM THE GFS AND NOW THE ECMWF THAT WE WILL HAVE
ANOTHER COASTAL LOW SITUATION FRIDAY WITH ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT
SHRT WV TROF. HAVE BUMPED UP RAIN CHANCES FOR FRIDAY INTO THE CHC
RANGE. 33
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#8086 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:37 pm

Weatherdude20 wrote:I can't believe the cut off is Johnson and Ellis county, I would (Just me? :( ) definatly extend the Winter Strom watch atleast along and south of I-20. They didn't include DFW.


Haven't you figured it out by now? FW nws doesn't like to put out winter storm watches for the major two north Texas counties (not once this year) whether blizzard conditions or a foot of snow is on the way lol. Joking aside, based on the models it's a pretty good line right now. I figure wwa might be on the way should the precip shield wane north.
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#8087 Postby southerngale » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:40 pm

Ntxw wrote:San Angelo has posted up winter storm watches for most of it's area as well as the Midland\Odessa office..


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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#8088 Postby Weatherdude20 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:43 pm

Dude.I know. I would love to see them get something right for the 1st time though! :wink:
:cheesy: :ggreen:
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#8089 Postby srainhoutx » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:50 pm

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#8090 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:52 pm

I know it's the 18z, but GFS has a glimmer of hope for North Texas folks. That's what can happen when you're that close to the strike zone. Then again, it can easily leave the next run with a jog to the south and S\E Texas has the opportunity :wink: .

S\E Texas.

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North Texas.

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Heaviest snows based on this run would be just north of Waco, from Hillsboro to Corsicana
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#8091 Postby hb905 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:55 pm

is it possible for the winter storm watch to extend up into the metroplex?
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#8092 Postby Texas2Florida » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:55 pm

Ntxw wrote:I know it's the 18z, but GFS has a glimmer of hope for North Texas folks. That's what can happen when you're that close to the strike zone. Then again, it can easily leave the next run with a jog to the south and S\E Texas has the opportunity :wink: .



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#8093 Postby gboudx » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:56 pm

Only 20% chance of snow for me in Rockwall. Down from 40%. Maybe we'll see some flurries.

Texas2Florida wrote:
Ntxw wrote:I know it's the 18z, but GFS has a glimmer of hope for North Texas folks. That's what can happen when you're that close to the strike zone. Then again, it can easily leave the next run with a jog to the south and S\E Texas has the opportunity :wink: .



Oh show it please!


I'm linking directly to the site, so the image will change in 24 hours. But here you go. 48 hours out.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_048l.gif
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#8094 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:58 pm

18z NAM and GFS snowfall maps for hour 54...

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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#8095 Postby wxman22 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:02 pm

18z GFS trys to develop a coastal trough

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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#8096 Postby Storm Tracker SA-CS » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:09 pm

is a coastal trough a good thing if you want more snow in college station?
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#8097 Postby Portastorm » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:09 pm

My normally conservative NWSFO continues to be ... um ... conservative with their outlook for Tuesday's winter storm. I guess I shouldn't gripe as they at least acknowledge now there will be some accumulation.

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SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AUSTIN/SAN ANTONIO TX
326 PM CST SUN FEB 21 2010

326 PM CST SUN FEB 21 2010

...WINTRY WEATHER TUESDAY...

AN UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER IDAHO WILL DIP INTO SOUTH
CENTRAL TEXAS ON TUESDAY. THIS SYSTEM WILL BRING COLDER TEMPERATURES
AND A CHANCE OF WINTRY PRECIPITATION AS AN OVERRUNNING PATTERN
DEVELOPS. THE INITIAL PRECIPITATION TYPE TUESDAY MORNING WILL BE
RAIN WITH A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW POSSIBLE IN THE NORTHERN HILL
COUNTRY AND EDWARDS PLATEAU. THE RAIN AND SNOW MIX WILL DRIFT
SOUTHWARD THROUGHOUT THE DAY ON TUESDAY REACHING ITS SOUTHERN MOST
EXTENT NEAR HIGHWAY 90 BY LATE TUESDAY AFTERNOON.

ACCUMULATIONS OF 1 TO 2 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE IN LLANO...BURNET AND
WILLIAMSON COUNTIES. ACCUMULATIONS WILL DECREASE SOUTHWARD FROM AN
INCH POSSIBLE ACROSS NORTHERN TRAVIS COUNTY TO ONE-HALF INCH OVER
NORTHWEST BEXAR COUNTY. PRECIPITATION WILL END FROM WEST TO EAST BY
WEDNESDAY MORNING AS THE UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM QUICKLY
MOVES EASTWARD.
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#8098 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:10 pm

Storm Tracker SA-CS wrote:is a coastal trough a good thing if you want more snow in college station?


It mostly effects the counties nearest to the coast enhancing their precip chances. You'd be too far away too be impacted much from it as it looks right now.
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#8099 Postby southerngale » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:11 pm

Hey, I think I'm back in the snow on the 18z GFS. lol - but I know I won't see anything but rain. I just keep watching the models because I'd rather skip the more productive things I should be doing, and let it all pile up. Image
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Re: Texas winter wx thread (2009-2010)

#8100 Postby wxman22 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:12 pm

Storm Tracker SA-CS wrote:is a coastal trough a good thing if you want more snow in college station?


Yes it would be as it would mean more precip lasting longer over Southeast Texas,at the same time you could be too far north to get any benefits from it,it just depends on how strong the trough develops) but of course its the 18z...
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