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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#8221 Postby TexasStorm » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:12 pm

Well Winter, it has been nice knowing you. You brought me many days of cold misery and an ice storm I could have done without. You brought me snow to look at for a few hours before it melted. Honestly Winter you have been an overachiever by my standards.

So as a parting gift I give you a big Texas kick in the butt and I hope to not see you again for a few more years.

And please, no encore presentations in March or April. I will not shed a tear in this goodbye.
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#8222 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:15 pm

Just got back from lunch, here in downtown Tyler we are seeing rain with some sleet mixed in 34/27. It is going to be an interesting evening here.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#8223 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:16 pm

Portastorm wrote:What?? You mean to tell me that there's not a widespread blizzard raging in the DFW metroplex at this hour? Why, last night I saw posts on here that the NWSFO DFW folks were clueless and that this model and that model showed horrific amounts of wintry precipitation and we should have all kinds of warnings issued and .... Cat 5 in the Gulf!!

Is it conceivable that one of the best NWSFOs in the USA had a good handle on this event after all?

I'm shocked ... shocked, I tell you! :roll:


Oh the Humanity!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#8224 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:17 pm

TexasStorm wrote:Well Winter, it has been nice knowing you. You brought me many days of cold misery and an ice storm I could have done without. You brought me snow to look at for a few hours before it melted. Honestly Winter you have been an overachiever by my standards.

So as a parting gift I give you a big Texas kick in the butt and I hope to not see you again for a few more years.

And please, no encore presentations in March or April. I will not shed a tear in this goodbye.


Remember your statements in August when it is 100+ near you and the trees are melting....:)
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#8225 Postby Tcu101 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:18 pm

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iorange55 wrote:It's a good thing we're around 31/32 right now. If it was in the upper 20s right now, it would be a big mess around here. We've been getting this mix for around 2 hours now.


To be honest, its been raining here for 2 hours and temps have hovered around 27 degrees in West Forth Worth. Some of the very lightly traveled bridges are icy, but all the main roads, sidewalks ect (anything in direct contact with the ground) are just wet. I think the light nature of the precipitation has allowed enough of the suns rays to keep the concrete surfaces from freezing. Now, if this would have come through last night, different story. Still caution should obviously be used!



That's interesting. Is the 27 degrees an accurate reading?


I do believe so. Also, Meacham Airport was around 28 degree which is not very far from me during the time the precip was falling.
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#8226 Postby Tcu101 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:21 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:Last Update on 11 Feb 12:52 pm CST @ FTW Navel Air Station Temp 31 WC 21 with Light Freezing Rain. :ggreen:


I've always noticed their temps are a little different (warmer side) then my temps and Meacham Airport. Maybe because it sets on the banks of the lake? Just a guess??
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#8227 Postby Tcu101 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:24 pm

TexasStorm wrote:Well Winter, it has been nice knowing you. You brought me many days of cold misery and an ice storm I could have done without. You brought me snow to look at for a few hours before it melted. Honestly Winter you have been an overachiever by my standards.

So as a parting gift I give you a big Texas kick in the butt and I hope to not see you again for a few more years.

And please, no encore presentations in March or April. I will not shed a tear in this goodbye.


I take it you will not be visiting the TEXAS WINTER 2013-2014 forum topic again this winter :P
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#8228 Postby Portastorm » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:24 pm

A little icing still ongoing in portions of EWX's CWA:

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AUSTIN/SAN ANTONIO TX
1226 PM CST TUE FEB 11 2014

.UPDATE...
THE LATEST NAM12 AND RUC13 TEMPERATURE AND DEW POINT FORECASTS
SUGGEST THE PRECIPITATION TYPE WILL REMAIN A COLD RAIN FOR AREAS
EAST OF THE I-35 CORRIDOR. CAN/T COMPLETELY RULE OUT A STRAY SLEET
SHOWER AS SOME ENHANCED ECHOES MOVE ACROSS THIS REGION THROUGH THE
AFTERNOON HOURS...BUT STILL EXPECT RAIN AS THE DOMINANT
PRECIPITATION TYPE. ALONG THE I-35 CORRIDOR... MOST LOCATIONS ARE
ABOVE FREEZING. HOWEVER A FEW SPOTS ARE AT OR JUST BELOW FREEZING
AND WITH SLIGHTLY LOWER DEW POINTS...SUSPECT THE TEMPERATURE COULD
QUICKLY DROP TO FREEZING IN SOME OF THE HEAVIER PRECIPITATION. FOR
NOW... WE WILL CONTINUE THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FOR THE I-35
CORRIDOR NORTH OF SAN ANTONIO. ACROSS THE HILL COUNTRY AND EDWARDS
PLATEAU... WE HAVE RECEIVED REPORTS OF FREEZING RAIN AS OF NOON.
ICING HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO IMPACT TRAVEL AND THERE HAVE
ALSO BEEN SEVERAL AUTO ACCIDENTS. WE/LL LEAVE THE ADVISORY INTACT
HERE AS WELL AS WINTRY PRECIPITATION WILL LIKELY CONTINUE THROUGH
THIS AFTERNOON.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#8229 Postby Tejas89 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:25 pm

Just light rain in N. Arlington. *maybe* a sleet pellet or two bounced off the windshield. Pavement wet. Roads and bridges are fine with traffic moving along at posted speeds.

DFW up to 31 now with radar thinning out.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#8230 Postby aggiecutter » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:28 pm

An area of moderate to heavy precipitation between I-30 and I-20 in east Texas is heading straight for the NE corner of the state. I imagine things will quickly deteriorate in the Texarkana area within the next couple hours.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#8231 Postby TexasStorm » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:30 pm

Tcu101 wrote:
TexasStorm wrote:Well Winter, it has been nice knowing you. You brought me many days of cold misery and an ice storm I could have done without. You brought me snow to look at for a few hours before it melted. Honestly Winter you have been an overachiever by my standards.

So as a parting gift I give you a big Texas kick in the butt and I hope to not see you again for a few more years.

And please, no encore presentations in March or April. I will not shed a tear in this goodbye.


I take it you will not be visiting the TEXAS WINTER 2013-2014 forum topic again this winter :P



I am guessing old man Winter still has one or two surprises in store for us... I can dream big though!
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#8232 Postby dhweather » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:32 pm

Portastorm wrote:What?? You mean to tell me that there's not a widespread blizzard raging in the DFW metroplex at this hour? Why, last night I saw posts on here that the NWSFO DFW folks were clueless and that this model and that model showed horrific amounts of wintry precipitation and we should have all kinds of warnings issued and .... Cat 5 in the Gulf!!

Is it conceivable that one of the best NWSFOs in the USA had a good handle on this event after all?

I'm shocked ... shocked, I tell you! :roll:


Here's what I said yesterday, verbatim:

My take on the FWD NWS video briefing is they are moderately confident that it will be below freezing, and that and precip totals will be very light. They left wiggle room that heavier precip could occur. I honestly don't know what else you can do if you are them - darned if you do, darned if you don't.
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#8233 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:32 pm

It looks like there is a small band out near Breckenridge that is moving towards some of the dry slotted areas.
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Re: Texas Winter 2013-2014

#8234 Postby iorange55 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:37 pm

Portastorm wrote:What?? You mean to tell me that there's not a widespread blizzard raging in the DFW metroplex at this hour? Why, last night I saw posts on here that the NWSFO DFW folks were clueless and that this model and that model showed horrific amounts of wintry precipitation and we should have all kinds of warnings issued and .... Cat 5 in the Gulf!!

Is it conceivable that one of the best NWSFOs in the USA had a good handle on this event after all?

I'm shocked ... shocked, I tell you! :roll:


Hyperbole? :wink:
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#8235 Postby Ralph's Weather » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:39 pm

aggiecutter wrote:An area of moderate to heavy precipitation between I-30 and I-20 in east Texas is heading straight for the NE corner of the state. I imagine things will quickly deteriorate in the Texarkana area within the next couple hours.


RAP continues to increase precip in East Texas. Though it is out to lunch with temps showing my 2PM temp as 41 when it is 33 and dropping. This is going to be quite the sleet storm it appears.

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#8236 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:41 pm

False spring is coming next week to week and half. I will post analogs and maps later this evening. Zonal flow is going to lose yet again to the Pacific as the guidance continue to break it down compared to last week.
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#8237 Postby Tcu101 » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:45 pm

Ntxw wrote:False spring is coming next week to week and half. I will post analogs and maps later this evening. Zonal flow is going to lose yet again to the Pacific as the guidance continue to break it down compared to last week.


Well dog gone-it! I was just on my way to Lowe's to get my spring flowers...
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#8238 Postby dhweather » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:46 pm

Ntxw wrote:False spring is coming next week to week and half. I will post analogs and maps later this evening. Zonal flow is going to lose yet again to the Pacific as the guidance continue to break it down compared to last week.


You think it will be similar to the thaw in January? 7-10 days of bliss followed by BLAMMO? We're working against increasingly longer days now, time is running out.
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#8239 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:49 pm

dhweather wrote:
Ntxw wrote:False spring is coming next week to week and half. I will post analogs and maps later this evening. Zonal flow is going to lose yet again to the Pacific as the guidance continue to break it down compared to last week.


You think it will be similar to the thaw in January? 7-10 days of bliss followed by BLAMMO? We're working against increasingly longer days now, time is running out.


It is a similar pattern but not similar result. You are correct climo is getting warmer so the warmups are stronger and lasts a little longer but it is not the end of cold anomalies. Like I said neutral years strongly favor a cold start to spring and cool through at least April. We saw a neutral in action 1 year ago with the birth of that same warm pool.
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#8240 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:01 pm

Unfortunately those same analogs do not favor a wet and stormy spring. Cooler gulf and lack of instability are depicted well in the composite, our best hope for siginificant rain will be if El Nino gets going early summer.
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