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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8441 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:13 pm

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Ntxw wrote:Congrats to winter 2017-2018 for ending the major SSW drought!

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SimonLeeWx/status/9628087101994 80320[/tweet]

Sweet! Now what.....

Any idea where the cold will go?


A lot of misconception is the question "where does cold go" after a SSW. For north America it's about a blocking ridge in the Arctic/Greenland to slow the flow. Then whether it gets cold or not is still dictated by the Pacific. Our continent is not like Europe where there can be easterly flow out of Russia. Things here go west to east. If the Pacific floods warmth then all we are blocking in place is that warmth vice versa.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8442 Postby hamburgerman7070 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:16 pm

Ntxw, how long does it take before the atmosphere responds to this split/ SSW idea? I believe that's what is on most people's minds. I believe masiello said the big se ridge is a good thing in that its a sign of big changes happening in the atmosphere since we been in such a progressive regime for a while now
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8443 Postby Ntxw » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:20 pm

hamburgerman7070 wrote:Ntxw, how long does it take before the atmosphere responds to this split/ SSW idea? I believe that's what is on most people's minds. I believe masiello said the big se ridge is a good thing in that its a sign of big changes happening in the atmosphere since we been in such a progressive regime for a while now


In general the final week of Feb most long range guidance nudges a near Greenland block. It's still a bit east based but the Canadian vortex is displaced to western Canada. That's more favorable for western cold and plains of sort. If you are living east of the MS river, torchaggedon cometh
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8444 Postby wxman57 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:22 pm

bubba hotep wrote:The 18z GFS appears to be an outlier as the 18z GEFS is much wetter and has a pretty strong signal for winter wx across Texas next weekend.

As others were mentioning earlier, FWD was pretty aggressive with the afternoon package, IMBY, they issued a point that has a low of 32 with a 50% of freezing rain.


Hmmm, that would be around the 16th...
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8445 Postby gpsnowman » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:30 pm

wxman57 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:The 18z GFS appears to be an outlier as the 18z GEFS is much wetter and has a pretty strong signal for winter wx across Texas next weekend.

As others were mentioning earlier, FWD was pretty aggressive with the afternoon package, IMBY, they issued a point that has a low of 32 with a 50% of freezing rain.


Hmmm, that would be around the 16th...

Did you see this coming the whole winter? :wink:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8446 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:36 pm

wxman57 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:The 18z GFS appears to be an outlier as the 18z GEFS is much wetter and has a pretty strong signal for winter wx across Texas next weekend.

As others were mentioning earlier, FWD was pretty aggressive with the afternoon package, IMBY, they issued a point that has a low of 32 with a 50% of freezing rain.


Hmmm, that would be around the 16th...


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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8447 Postby missygirl810 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:37 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:The 18z GFS appears to be an outlier as the 18z GEFS is much wetter and has a pretty strong signal for winter wx across Texas next weekend.

As others were mentioning earlier, FWD was pretty aggressive with the afternoon package, IMBY, they issued a point that has a low of 32 with a 50% of freezing rain.


Hmmm, that would be around the 16th...


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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8448 Postby Quixotic » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:44 pm

We got about 3.5 weeks to get something, realistically. Climo starts working against us after the first week of March.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8449 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:47 pm

Quixotic wrote:We got about 3.5 weeks to get something, realistically. Climo starts working against us after the first week of March.


I would certainly like to lock something up in February, as March makes me nervous.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8450 Postby Quixotic » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:29 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
Quixotic wrote:We got about 3.5 weeks to get something, realistically. Climo starts working against us after the first week of March.


I would certainly like to lock something up in February, as March makes me nervous.


Yep. I’ve seen two events in April: 87 and 07. I’ve seen 5 .events in March: 89, 02, 10, 14, 15. Untold in February. Just playing the odds.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8451 Postby TexasF6 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:10 pm

GFS 18Z has another ICEMAGEDDON for Austin Friday into Saturday???? Really??? WxMan57 said it was coming.....
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8452 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:22 pm

Ntxw wrote:
hamburgerman7070 wrote:Ntxw, how long does it take before the atmosphere responds to this split/ SSW idea? I believe that's what is on most people's minds. I believe masiello said the big se ridge is a good thing in that its a sign of big changes happening in the atmosphere since we been in such a progressive regime for a while now


In general the final week of Feb most long range guidance nudges a near Greenland block. It's still a bit east based but the Canadian vortex is displaced to western Canada. That's more favorable for western cold and plains of sort. If you are living east of the MS river, torchaggedon cometh


Had a friend in Germany one winter and she said it was SUPER cold. I investigated and yeah, just like you said, the winds were coming from Russia. Was very surprised. A ULL tracked west around a high and dipped towards the Mediterranean, i was amazed lol.

Air coming off of Russia is super cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8453 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:49 pm

This weekend could possibly be interesting up this way. The actual lows have been much colder than what has been forecasted. Currently they are forecasting 40-50% chance of rain with the low right at freezing. If it keeps the trend it has all winter with the cold, we could be in bunsiness.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8454 Postby weatherdude1108 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:29 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Be glad we are not on the east coast/far southeast. Semi torch about to take hold as the SE/NW Atlantic ridge about to flex up that way. We benefit a bit from -PNA

Places like Atlanta, Birmingham will go likely no freezes and 70s/80s often. Mid Atlantic flowers budding out


Even further west we have already been feeling it. For the last week we have seen 70's or close to it. Grass is already starting to green up in places. Can say with confidence winter cancelled/done around here. The cold and snow we had seems forever ago.


My brother in DC sent me a message after I sent him ice on car pics:

How weird. It is 66 degrees here in northern VA right now. So we are more than 30 degrees warmer than Austin. On February 11. Strange.

That is weird! :double:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8455 Postby Brent » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:44 pm

weatherdude1108 wrote:
CYCLONE MIKE wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Be glad we are not on the east coast/far southeast. Semi torch about to take hold as the SE/NW Atlantic ridge about to flex up that way. We benefit a bit from -PNA

Places like Atlanta, Birmingham will go likely no freezes and 70s/80s often. Mid Atlantic flowers budding out


Even further west we have already been feeling it. For the last week we have seen 70's or close to it. Grass is already starting to green up in places. Can say with confidence winter cancelled/done around here. The cold and snow we had seems forever ago.


My brother in DC sent me a message after I sent him ice on car pics:

How weird. It is 66 degrees here in northern VA right now. So we are more than 30 degrees warmer than Austin. On February 11. Strange.

That is weird! :double:


yeah all my old weather friends in AL/GA are pretty much cancelling winter... and not joking

Oh well they had enough snow in December/January :P I really dont have much sympathy
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8456 Postby Haris » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:52 pm

Brent wrote:
weatherdude1108 wrote:
CYCLONE MIKE wrote:
Even further west we have already been feeling it. For the last week we have seen 70's or close to it. Grass is already starting to green up in places. Can say with confidence winter cancelled/done around here. The cold and snow we had seems forever ago.


My brother in DC sent me a message after I sent him ice on car pics:

How weird. It is 66 degrees here in northern VA right now. So we are more than 30 degrees warmer than Austin. On February 11. Strange.

That is weird! :double:


yeah all my old weather friends in AL/GA are pretty much cancelling winter... and not joking

Oh well they had enough snow in December/January :P I really dont have much sympathy


They better not complain! ATL has seen 2 major snow events this winter! Dec one brought a FOOOOT of snow and jan one brought 2 inches! SMH . Jealous here LOL
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8457 Postby hamburgerman7070 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:13 am

Gfs didn't look good unfortunately. Still a progressive pattern. The euro today 12z had it progressive so gfs followed suit. I'm not a big fan of the ensembles because more times than not the operationals are usually different than the ensembles. I think winter is over for us also, other than some rain events
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8458 Postby Texas Snowman » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:21 am

wxman57 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:The 18z GFS appears to be an outlier as the 18z GEFS is much wetter and has a pretty strong signal for winter wx across Texas next weekend.

As others were mentioning earlier, FWD was pretty aggressive with the afternoon package, IMBY, they issued a point that has a low of 32 with a 50% of freezing rain.


Hmmm, that would be around the 16th...


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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8459 Postby hamburgerman7070 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:13 am

Steve demartino, a met from the northeast said winter is over. I watched his periscope video. He said since the split happened and we got the strongest part of the split, overseas will benefit. I personally will never mention about a SSW event again because they usually don't effect us with cold weather. Europe and Asia benefit from it most often.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8460 Postby Brent » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:55 am

Euro is a cold rain in the upper 30s for DFW next Friday Night then a warmup after that and more rain towards the end of the run but warm

Haris wrote:
Brent wrote:
weatherdude1108 wrote:
My brother in DC sent me a message after I sent him ice on car pics:

How weird. It is 66 degrees here in northern VA right now. So we are more than 30 degrees warmer than Austin. On February 11. Strange.

That is weird! :double:


yeah all my old weather friends in AL/GA are pretty much cancelling winter... and not joking

Oh well they had enough snow in December/January :P I really dont have much sympathy


They better not complain! ATL has seen 2 major snow events this winter! Dec one brought a FOOOOT of snow and jan one brought 2 inches! SMH . Jealous here LOL


oh trust me... I just roll my eyes when they complain. I still havent gotten over the December storm. :P All those years in Alabama that was the kind of storm I wanted.
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