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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#441 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:45 am

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Edwards Limestone wrote:What's the chatter on natural gas futures for the next month or so? Thinking about throwing some money at UNG ETF.


The leveraged ETF BOIL is a wild one to play



That’s a bingo! Love it
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#442 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:50 am

Exp WPC clusters

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#443 Postby orangeblood » Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:03 pm



That ULL crashing into the west coast day 7-8 has MAJOR winter storm potential the week before Christmas, can see it tapping the STJ on some of the Op runs
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#444 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:08 pm

12z GFS has another snowstorm for my area on December 18th and 19th, 6-7 inches on the Kuchera Ratio.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#445 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:10 pm

Iceresistance wrote:12z GFS has another snowstorm for my area on December 18th and 19th, 6-7 inches on the Kuchera Ratio.


A broken clock is right twice a day.....
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#446 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:13 pm

HockeyTx82 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:12z GFS has another snowstorm for my area on December 18th and 19th, 6-7 inches on the Kuchera Ratio.


A broken clock is right twice a day.....

What? :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#447 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:16 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#448 Postby Edwards Limestone » Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:22 pm

Picked up some BOIL shares. Thanks for the info guys.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#449 Postby HockeyTx82 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:44 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
HockeyTx82 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:12z GFS has another snowstorm for my area on December 18th and 19th, 6-7 inches on the Kuchera Ratio.


A broken clock is right twice a day.....

What? :lol:


Just saying this far out it's pure fantasy. Might be right, might be wrong.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#450 Postby wxman57 » Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:51 pm

Euro has zero cold air and no high center dropping south on the 18th, while the GFS has a 1048mb high coming south. No agreement at all. GFS is probably wrong, though. It just isn't handling the pattern well.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#451 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 08, 2022 12:57 pm

wxman57 wrote:Euro has zero cold air and no high center dropping south on the 18th, while the GFS has a 1048mb high coming south. No agreement at all. GFS is probably wrong, though. It just isn't handling the pattern well.


We know the Euro has performed poorly in the PAC so can’t trust it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#452 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:01 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Euro has zero cold air and no high center dropping south on the 18th, while the GFS has a 1048mb high coming south. No agreement at all. GFS is probably wrong, though. It just isn't handling the pattern well.


We know the Euro has performed poorly in the PAC so can’t trust it.

I have never trusted the Euro for winter since February 2021. The GFS is surprisingly good for that on the flip side.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#453 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:02 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Euro has zero cold air and no high center dropping south on the 18th, while the GFS has a 1048mb high coming south. No agreement at all. GFS is probably wrong, though. It just isn't handling the pattern well.


We know the Euro has performed poorly in the PAC so can’t trust it.

If I recall in Feb 2021 the GFS, ICON, and CMC all picked up on the severe cold early on and never wavered and the Euro did not catch on until a couple days just before it all came down. Could it happen again?
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#454 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:03 pm

gpsnowman wrote:
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Euro has zero cold air and no high center dropping south on the 18th, while the GFS has a 1048mb high coming south. No agreement at all. GFS is probably wrong, though. It just isn't handling the pattern well.


We know the Euro has performed poorly in the PAC so can’t trust it.

If I recall in Feb 2021 the GFS, ICON, and CMC all picked up on the severe cold early on and never wavered and the Euro did not catch on until a couple days just before it all came down. Could it happen again?

All of the models wavered somewhat, but the GFS, ICON, and CMC caught it in the long range and did well.

The Euro absolutely flopped in February 2021.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#455 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:07 pm

gpsnowman wrote:
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Euro has zero cold air and no high center dropping south on the 18th, while the GFS has a 1048mb high coming south. No agreement at all. GFS is probably wrong, though. It just isn't handling the pattern well.


We know the Euro has performed poorly in the PAC so can’t trust it.

If I recall in Feb 2021 the GFS, ICON, and CMC all picked up on the severe cold early on and never wavered and the Euro did not catch on until a couple days just before it all came down. Could it happen again?


I believe the Euro sniffed it out first then dropped it for several days while the other models kept showing more and more severe solutions. Then the Euro came back 60 hours out
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#456 Postby Ntxw » Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:12 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
gpsnowman wrote:
ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
We know the Euro has performed poorly in the PAC so can’t trust it.

If I recall in Feb 2021 the GFS, ICON, and CMC all picked up on the severe cold early on and never wavered and the Euro did not catch on until a couple days just before it all came down. Could it happen again?


I believe the Euro sniffed it out first then dropped it for several days while the other models kept showing more and more severe solutions. Then the Euro came back 60 hours out


Euro had inherent issues with surface temperatures, similar to GFS issues some years back. It wasn't just limited to the Feb 2021 outbreak but that one was glaring due to the extremes. Incorporating too much climo in a higher standard deviation event is not always a good thing.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#457 Postby orangeblood » Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:22 pm

Canadian ENS appeared to handle the arctic cold in the 7-14 day range the best over past several years…here’s the latest 9-16 day temp forecast

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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#458 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:31 pm

orangeblood wrote:Canadian ENS appeared to handle the arctic cold in the 7-14 day range the best over past several years…here’s the latest 9-16 day temp forecast

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/cmc-ensemble-all-avg/conus/t2m_f_anom_7day/1670500800/1671883200-9IyzkF8n6Lo.png




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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#459 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:38 pm

ThunderSleetDreams wrote:
orangeblood wrote:Canadian ENS appeared to handle the arctic cold in the 7-14 day range the best over past several years…here’s the latest 9-16 day temp forecast

https://images.weatherbell.com/model/cmc-ensemble-all-avg/conus/t2m_f_anom_7day/1670500800/1671883200-9IyzkF8n6Lo.png




https://33andrain.s3.amazonaws.com/monthly_2022_12/EBE722ED-348A-41A2-A7DD-D364BE774271.png.55384e862d724570d8432d032c44159d.png

That is a good looking Alaskan ridge depicted. The pattern change can't come soon enough, I am tired of the Dagobah swamp weather we have been having, although it will bring some rain chances between now and Tuesday.
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Re: Texas Winter 2022-2023

#460 Postby TropicalTundra » Thu Dec 08, 2022 1:44 pm

What's the timing for the next cooldown? Some models are hinting at a big cold front sometime Tuesday afternoon- Wednesday morning although it's been flip flopping.
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