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Does accuweather 15-day exclusively use GFS?

#1 Postby wxw » Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:05 pm

It's showing fairly mild and zonal look for late next week, around xmas and beyond. I believe this is what GFS shows as well after the storm exits around the 25th.

Example, DC area jumped from upper 30's for highs right after Christmas to now 50's for highs, similar to GFS progressive look, losing eastern trough and sending warm pacific air all the way across US late in week.

Just wondering if Accu 15-day is a blend of model or just GFS?
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Re: Does accuweather 15-day exclusively use GFS?

#2 Postby Stormsfury » Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:16 pm

wxw wrote:It's showing fairly mild and zonal look for late next week, around xmas and beyond. I believe this is what GFS shows as well after the storm exits around the 25th.

Example, DC area jumped from upper 30's for highs right after Christmas to now 50's for highs, similar to GFS progressive look, losing eastern trough and sending warm pacific air all the way across US late in week.

Just wondering if Accu 15-day is a blend of model or just GFS?


Accuwx uses the GFS solely on those 15 day outlooks ... Only the GFS is run out to 16 days hence the badly flip-flopping forecasts...so I've heard...

SF
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#3 Postby ColdFront77 » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:37 pm

No forecaster/meteorologist and/or weather organization should use one model exclusively... like The Weather Channel uses the MM5 all the time for their Local Forecasts.
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Re: Does accuweather 15-day exclusively use GFS?

#4 Postby wx247 » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:38 pm

Stormsfury wrote:
wxw wrote:It's showing fairly mild and zonal look for late next week, around xmas and beyond. I believe this is what GFS shows as well after the storm exits around the 25th.

Example, DC area jumped from upper 30's for highs right after Christmas to now 50's for highs, similar to GFS progressive look, losing eastern trough and sending warm pacific air all the way across US late in week.

Just wondering if Accu 15-day is a blend of model or just GFS?


Accuwx uses the GFS solely on those 15 day outlooks ... Only the GFS is run out to 16 days hence the badly flip-flopping forecasts...so I've heard...

SF


That is bad meteorology IMHO. I didn't realize that was their problem, but now it makes sense.
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#5 Postby Stormsfury » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:40 pm

ColdFront77 wrote:No forecaster/meteorologist and/or weather organization should use one model exclusively... like The Weather Channel uses the MM5 all the time for their Local Forecasts.


What? TWC lives and dies by the GFS ...
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#6 Postby Colin » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:44 pm

I can't believe that these huge weather companies rely solely on one model. That's pathetic IMO ... my local mets always analyze every model, especially Rob Guarino from FOX29. (FOX5 Philly)
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#7 Postby weatherlover427 » Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:46 pm

That's why their forecasts always suck *insert expletives here*! Aha! The secret is out!

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#8 Postby polarbear » Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:16 pm

The GFS is the only forecast model to run out to 16 days, 4 times a day, with many more fields than the other models. It's quite possible that those 15 day forecasts are direct output from the GFS (no human augmentation). At the present time, I believe forecasts beyond day 5 start to drastically decline in accuracy, and by day 10 I'd take it with a grain of salt.
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#9 Postby ColdFront77 » Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:34 pm

ColdFront77 wrote:No forecaster/meteorologist and/or weather organization should use one model exclusively... like The Weather Channel uses the MM5 all the time for their Local Forecasts.


Stormsfury wrote:What? TWC lives and dies by the GFS ...

...........I heard that they use the MM5 model shortly after they started/dropped the National Weather Service forecasts.
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#10 Postby Snow Plow » Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:37 pm

I understand they have incorporated the GFS ES DB (dart board) at five paces. This is in conjunction with the normal ETA GWF (gaming wheel of fortune) device which proved itself last winter.

When combining these advanced methods products such as 15 day forecasts achieve HOC (house of cards) reliability ratings. Probably one of the most attractive features of the ACCUWX 15 day forecast is the upgraded VRG (virtual reality graphics) which offer users connecting with the new Davis VRG PC Adapter w/Temp-o-Wind-n-Precip Simulator the experience of each of the predicted conditions as they scroll day-to-day through the forecast. Classic stuff but make sure you get version 6.213 as sleet can cause scarring in earlier version.
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#11 Postby Anonymous » Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:09 am

For the Weather Channel Local forecasts, the MM5 is the exclusively used model.
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