For JEB and his snow Bubble; Here is a a real one

[Guest]

JEB

seriously its cool... I probably reacted too strong.... but as bad as YOUR snow bubble is this year you didnt have it last year...

after the DEC 20003 snows in the northeast the pattern did shift south.... last year I got screwed but hey well freaky things happen... but with a southern snow pattern in the 2nd half of THIS winter RIC should be getting SOME snow.

The "rule" or guideline is that when GSO is getting snow 85% of the time RIC gets good or heavy snow. Yet for 2 winters in a row now that has NOT been the case. In EVERY instance when GSO has gotten snow RIC has NOT or recv'd very little. In EVERY case -- every one-- that 15% has showed up.


This storm was a BIG carolina snowstorm affecting CLT RDU winston salem GSO.... that also also saw a significant or major snow Last Jan--- perhaps you recall the clipper low that brough heavy snow even to Nags Head and Hatteras???

BUT in 50 years of research I am currently doing I have YET to find a SINGLE event where RIC has been been ground ZERO... where RIC has ever been the place that has gotten the Most snow in an event.

I am not yet done my research but so far its been true.

Blizzard 25 Jan 2000? NOPE CLT and RDU got the most snow(20 inches at CLT). 2 JAN 2002 southern snow? Nope GSO and ORF got the MOST snow

ash wednesday 1962 noreaster? 15 inches at RIC but 42 iinches fell at CHO and 28 at Farmville.'

In DC there has been the Knickerbocker storm... the PD blizzard of 79 ... the Veterans Day snowstorm and that surprise march storm in 1999. In all those cases Metro DC got the HHIGHEST snow totals

not one time has this sort of thing happend at RIC.

SO FAR THIS SEASON RIC has reported 6.2"
I am just south of RIC -- I have 8 inches for the season

This is the LOWEST OF ANY metro area North of Atlanta and east of the Ohio river

It is also the LOWEST % of Normal of ANY metro area North of Atlanta and east of the Ohio river


12 inches at RIC last year -- how much did you get last year? 40 inches? 50"

RIC again the Lowest of ANY metro area North of atlanta and east of the Ohio river

Lowest % of Normal of ANY metro area North of Atlanta GA and east of the Ohio river

30 inches TOTAL for the last 3 years!!!
and Guess what ... Lowest 3 year TOTAL of ANY Metro area North of Atlanta and east of the Ohio river

and of course the Lowest % of Normal of ANY metro area North of central ATLANTA and east of the Ohio river

[Guest]

[quote="DT"


BUT in 50 years of research I am currently doing I have YET to find a SINGLE event where RIC has been been ground ZERO... where RIC has ever been the place that has gotten the Most snow in an event.



January 4-5, 1980

[Anonymous]

The statistics you have posted are pretty convincing; RIC does appear to be the king of getting shafted east of the Appalachians. However, the DC metro is not running too far behind as of late... with the exception of last year, of course. I have been here from the winter of 97-98 to present, and last year was the ONLY winter that was above average snowfall at IAD.

But it's more than that... the problem is that even with winters like 00-01 and this year where we do okay snowfall wise, there are areas all around us getting pounded. I think the fact that Charlotte has beaten my location for seasonal snowfall for 2 of the past 3 years speaks volumes about the suckiness of recent DC-area winters.

1997-1998: Self-explanatory... everyone was screwed.

1998-1999: Overall another bad winter, except for March 9 of course, which admittedly had its highest totals right in my backyard.

1999-2000: Jan 25 was awesome, but was one of only two 3"+ snowfalls of the season and only delivered about 10-11" here (as opposed to the massive amounts received to our south and east).

2000-2001: Pure hell. December dumping on the NC coastal plain, followed by Dec 30 2000, Feb 5 2001, and Mar 4-6 2001.

2001-2002: ORF saw more than 3x my seasonal total with one storm...

2002-2003: The exception, of course.

2003-2004: A heartbreaker. I can't remember a single 3-day period (except for late DEC) during which we weren't monitoring some potential "big dog" in the medium range, only to have it fall apart EVERY TIME. DT, I think you would agree with this as well; around January 10 you posted a map calling for a "MECS/Blizzard" sometime around Jan 18-19; after that, you were calling for the "Big Dog" around Feb 5. Needless to say, neither materialized for one reason or another. The big theme to this winter was tons and tons of wasted potential, moreso than way below average snowfall. This year the screw zone was pretty much the entire southern and central Mid-Atlantic from RIC to PHL. Each event that DID produce significant snow (Dec 5-6, Dec 14, and Jan 25-26) was overforecast for IAD by DT and JB, and to a lesser extent even NWS!

[rainstorm]

it cant last forever. the reason is simple. there have been no true noreasters for years now. in a real noreaster, the r/s line is often somewhere near williamsburg. if in future years noreasters return, the snow will return to ric as well.

[DCmetroraleigh]

Excellent research. So, is Baltimore also in the Screw Zone too>?