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Snow and Icestorms in NE GA For 2004-2005 winter season.

#1 Postby Wnghs2007 » Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:05 pm

I was wondering if any of you brilliant weather geniuses could help me out here. donsutherland1, USAwx1, ATS, elw, or anyone else who could help me out here i would really appreciate it.


Could anyone if they have time. Give me and in depth discussion of what we might excpect come winter time in NE GA. Will there be an increased risk for the dreaded WEDGE Lol :lol: and the ice storm(s) it may bring along with it.Will there be more snow than normal possibly. From what you could tell now I would like to know. Thanks for yalls help.
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#2 Postby USAwx1 » Fri Jul 23, 2004 4:27 pm

hey bud....I cant give you anythign real "in-depth" at least not RIGHT NOW. But suffice to say i expect the core of the below normal temperatures to be located across the Southeast US. perhaps on the order of -1.5 to -2.0 degrees.

Precipitation may end up Near normal. the AVG snowfall in the analogs for ATL was 1.30". and like i said in the other thread, the outlier season was 1963-64 w/ over 3"/
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#3 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sat Jul 24, 2004 3:42 pm

USAwx1 wrote:hey bud....I cant give you anythign real "in-depth" at least not RIGHT NOW. But suffice to say i expect the core of the below normal temperatures to be located across the Southeast US. perhaps on the order of -1.5 to -2.0 degrees.

Precipitation may end up Near normal. the AVG snowfall in the analogs for ATL was 1.30". and like i said in the other thread, the outlier season was 1963-64 w/ over 3"/



Yeah. I just hope this time when the ETA and GFS both show a 1040 mb high up in Canada it comes to pass. And it can be strong enough to get the freezing line down the mountains and usher in the dryer air so when it rains the air will cool enough for a major ice storm. The 2000 one was awsome!!!!!! :eek: :D
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#4 Postby Stormsfury » Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:48 pm

Wnghs2007, trust me, I'll give you 7 days notice when I see it coming.
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#5 Postby USAwx1 » Sun Jul 25, 2004 1:55 pm

Yeah, KC nobody knows CAD situations like SF!
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#6 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sun Jul 25, 2004 11:56 pm

Stormsfury wrote:Wnghs2007, trust me, I'll give you 7 days notice when I see it coming.



Yes. Thanks you god yes. I love your site, especially in those winter situations. Really great discussions. And I cant wait for this winter to see even more of your great work!!!!!:D
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#7 Postby verycoolnin » Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:38 pm

USAwx1 wrote:Precipitation may end up Near normal. the AVG snowfall in the analogs for ATL was 1.30". and like i said in the other thread, the outlier season was 1963-64 w/ over 3"/
With a weak El Nino forming shouldn't precipitation be a little above normal for the southeast?
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#8 Postby USAwx1 » Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:11 pm

verycoolnin wrote:
USAwx1 wrote:Precipitation may end up Near normal. the AVG snowfall in the analogs for ATL was 1.30". and like i said in the other thread, the outlier season was 1963-64 w/ over 3"/
With a weak El Nino forming shouldn't precipitation be a little above normal for the southeast?


yes, Weak El Nino events do correlate well with Above normal precip in the Southeast due to the enhanced STJ. BUT The info in my post above is what the preliminary ANALOG years suggest for ATL ONLY--it does not apply to the rest of the SE US.
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#9 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sat Aug 21, 2004 2:58 pm

Almost a month has passed since I wrote this question. Any new information since then???? I know I know probally to early. Thou impatient bone in thouest body douseth not wait.
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#10 Postby USAwx1 » Sat Aug 21, 2004 6:17 pm

Wnghs2007 wrote:Almost a month has passed since I wrote this question. Any new information since then???? I know I know probally to early. Thou impatient bone in thouest body douseth not wait.


Yes, there is new information, and im working on preparing part 1 of my winter outlook right now.

BUT thou's impatient bone in thoust body is going to have to wait until SEP 15 and the newsletter to see it.
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#11 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:09 pm

USAwx1 wrote:
Wnghs2007 wrote:Almost a month has passed since I wrote this question. Any new information since then???? I know I know probally to early. Thou impatient bone in thouest body douseth not wait.


Yes, there is new information, and im working on preparing part 1 of my winter outlook right now.

BUT thou's impatient bone in thoust body is going to have to wait until SEP 15 and the newsletter to see it.



Cool. Thou impatient bone in thoust body will wait untill then :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Snow and Icestorms in NE GA For 2004-2005 winter season.

#12 Postby donsutherland1 » Sat Aug 21, 2004 7:14 pm

Wnghs2007,

There are some reasons for encouragement with respect to Winter 2004-05 in Atlanta. Overall, I am in good agreement with USAwx1's earlier observations. For one thing, the weak El Niño for the winter now appears very likely. At this time, I also don't see the ENSO regional anomalies proving to be a real killer for winter's prospects.
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Re: Snow and Icestorms in NE GA For 2004-2005 winter season.

#13 Postby USAwx1 » Sat Aug 21, 2004 8:20 pm

donsutherland1 wrote:Wnghs2007,

There are some reasons for encouragement with respect to Winter 2004-05 in Atlanta. Overall, I am in good agreement with USAwx1's earlier observations. For one thing, the weak El Niño for the winter now appears very likely. At this time, I also don't see the ENSO regional anomalies proving to be a real killer for winter's prospects.


if anything they will be an enhancing factor b/c you don't get near the amount of heat pumped into systems which develop in the southern branch when you have El Nino conditions centered in the 3.4 and 4.0 region---like you would if there was a raging El Nino w/ SSTA > 3.0 DEG C centered in the 1+2, and 3.0 region.

In other words you still get the enhanced STJ (and the corresponding storminess) w/o the strong warming effects or Intense Pacific low which floods the source regions with polar-pacific air. Add in a -NAO in the means and one has upped the potential for widespread above normal snowfall in the EUS even more, and further south.
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#14 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:02 am

Bump. Hows it looking now guys. :?:
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#15 Postby Anonymous » Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:41 pm

USAwx1 wrote:Yeah, KC nobody knows CAD situations like SF!


Yeah, I second that! You have GOT to check out his website!!

http://www.stormsfury1.com/

If Stormsfury doesn't have it on his weather site, you don't need to know it! You need to know about CAD (Cold Air Damming) scenarios, SF's the man to see.
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#16 Postby Wnghs2007 » Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:09 pm

Bump again.

Have you released your outlook USAwx1? I have not seen you here in a while and was wondering. Thanks.
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#17 Postby wxguy25 » Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:39 pm

Wnghs2007 wrote:Bump again.

Have you released your outlook USAwx1? I have not seen you here in a while and was wondering. Thanks.


Not yet, but rest assured, KC, Its coming. Im working on it right now, and Im hoping to have it done and ready for release on MON night. My time has been consumed recently by other issues over the past several weeks, so I haven’t had a chance to focus much attention on the winter.
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#18 Postby Wnghs2007 » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:53 pm

wxguy25 wrote:
Wnghs2007 wrote:Bump again.

Have you released your outlook USAwx1? I have not seen you here in a while and was wondering. Thanks.


Not yet, but rest assured, KC, Its coming. Im working on it right now, and Im hoping to have it done and ready for release on MON night. My time has been consumed recently by other issues over the past several weeks, so I haven’t had a chance to focus much attention on the winter.


Ok thanks bud.

Also, what happend to your username? Did you forget your password or something? Or did you just want a new one. Sorry for being so pushy sounding.
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#19 Postby Wnghs2007 » Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:22 pm

WOW. It would be great to have some high snowfall totals this year.
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#20 Postby yoda » Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:46 pm

Can't wait to see it USAWx1. KC, I can only see at most 10 inches for you... I will have mine out soon as well.
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