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"Not by Fire But by Ice"

#1 Postby CaptinCrunch » Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:09 pm

Philip V. Brennan
Wednesday, Oct. 12, 2005


This coming winter will be the coldest in recorded history. Last winter, had many big Northeastern snow storms but was pasive in terms of real winter weather. If I'm right, we ain't seen nothing yet.

This winter we will see temperatures drop to levels unheard of, violent snowfall will be routinely measured in feet instead of inches, blizzards will resemble hurricanes in violence.
Yeah, I know, the world is in the grip of global warming, the Arctic summer sea ice melted at a greater rate than usual, glaciers are retreating and our air conditioning costs are going through the roof. What could make me believe that this warming planet could continue to produce weather increasingly frigid and increasingly violent?

It's really simple. To begin with, the world's glaciers are not retreating. As Robert W. Felix, author of "Not by Fire But by Ice," has demonstrated on his iceagenow.com Web site how fully 75 percent of the planet's glaciers are growing.


Moreover, many scientists believe that the summertime melt, far from being an ominous development signaling global warming that is melting the ice cap itself, is actually a cyclical development – a phenomenon that comes and goes over long periods of time. It is also a symptom of the oceans being heated, but more about that later.

One does not have to be a climatologist to recognize a few simple facts.

Cold fronts begin at the poles and head for the temperate zones. If the poles are warming, the fronts will be less frigid. If your refrigerator is losing its cooling power, it will begin to lose its power to do what it is meant to do: refrigerate. And if the Arctic ice pack is melting or even thinning, as it melts or thins the cold fronts it sends south will be less and less frigid.

But if, instead, the ice and snow pack is thickening and becoming more frigid, the cold fronts it sends south will be increasingly colder.

Ergo, if the polar ice caps are seeing their power to refrigerate slowly diminishing, how is it that we are witnessing more and more record-breaking cold spells? Faulty refrigerators can't fast-freeze their contents.

As for the very real prospects of massive snowfalls and violent blizzards, it is important to remember a very simple fact: The colder the air in a front, the more violent the storms created when Arctic air meets warm air pushing up from the equatorial regions.
And the warm fronts moving north are increasingly hot, but that is not the result of global warming – it's due to the warming of the world's oceans.

That ocean warming is created by a huge increase in undersea tectonic activity – the kind of increased activity (See Pakistan/India/Indonesia, etc.) we're witnessing on the surface – submerged volcanoes erupting, gushing red hot magma up through the earth's crust, or magma spilling through cracks in the sea floor and turning the ocean waters into boiling cauldrons.

This superheating of the oceans, in turn – which Felix has also convincingly demonstrated – is sending huge amounts of carbon dioxide into the upper atmosphere. The CO2 becomes moisture and falls as rain in the summer, autumn and spring, and snow in winter.


It also falls as snow in the Arctic, increasing the depth of the snow pack atop the ice pack. As Felix says, it's not global warming, it's ocean warming.

The greater the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, the greater the amounts of rainfall and snow. Those CO2 levels are now nearing 400 parts per million and growing. Over millions of years, every time the levels of CO2 have risen above 200 ppm, an ice age has set in. Every time! Get that? Every time. No exceptions. None.

In my last column on this subject on July 13 (see Globaloney & Poppycock) I quoted Felix extensively. Here's what he wrote:

"Research shows that there was 'a sudden and dramatic rise' in carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere at the dinosaur extinction of 65 million years ago ... today's rise in CO2 levels can be attributed to our warming oceans. After all, the oceans are known as a carbon dioxide 'sink,' especially when the water is cold."

"But as the water warms up, it releases CO2 into the atmosphere," he writes. "This happens in much the same way that a warm bottle of home-brewed root beer will release CO2. And if you give that CO2 no way to escape, the bottle will explode. We've got it backwards. We've got cause and effect in reverse. The CO2 is not causing global warming. Instead, our warming oceans are releasing CO2 into the atmosphere. It's not global warming, it's ocean warming, and it's leading us into an ice age."

According to Felix, the oceans are warming as the result of widespread underwater volcanic activity, which he thoroughly documents is now happening. He adds: "We've forgotten that this isn't the first time our seas have warmed. Sea temperatures also shot upward 10º to 18ºF just prior to the last ice age. As the oceans warmed, evaporation increased. The excess moisture then fell to the ground as giant blizzards, giant storms and floods (Noah's Deluge type floods), and a new ice age began."

And he warns: "The same thing is happening today. Underwater volcanic activity in the Arctic Ocean far stronger than anyone ever imagined!

"German-American researchers have discovered more hydrothermal activity at the Gakkel Ridge in the Arctic Ocean than anyone ever imagined.

"The Gakkel ridge is a gigantic volcanic mountain chain stretching beneath the Arctic Ocean. With its deep valleys 5,500 meters beneath the sea surface and its 5,000-meter-high summits, Gakkel ridge is far mightier than the Alps.

"Two research icebreakers, the USCGC Healy from the United States and the German PFS Polarstern, recently joined forces in the international expedition AMORE (Arctic Mid-Ocean Ridge Expedition). In attendance were scientists from the Max Planck Institute for Chemistry and other international institutions.

"The scientists had expected that the Gakkel ridge would exhibit 'anemic' magnetism. Instead, they found 'surprisingly strong magmatic activity in the West and the East of the ridge and one of the strongest hydrothermal activities ever seen at mid-ocean ridges.'

"The Gakkel ridge extends about 1800 kilometers beneath the Arctic Ocean from north of Greenland to Siberia, and is the northernmost portion of the mid-ocean ridge system.

"To their surprise, the researchers found high levels of volcanic activity. Indeed, magmatism [blazing hot magma flowing from eruptions] was 'dramatically' higher than expected.

"Hydrothermal hot springs on the sea floor were also far more abundant than predicted. 'We expected this to be a hydrothermally dead ridge, and almost every time our water measurement instrument came up, they showed evidence of hydrothermal activity, and once we even "saw" an active hot spring on the sea floor,' said Dr. Jonathan Snow, the leader of the research group from Munich's Max Planck Institute in a 2003 press release."

According to The Associated Press, "Naturally occurring bubbles of liquid carbon dioxide were observed rising from the ocean floor." "For the first time ever, scientists using a camera-equipped submarine have been able to witness an undersea volcano during an eruptive episode.

"Exploring the ocean floor in an area known as the Mariana Trench, last year researchers found bubbles of liquid carbon dioxide being released into the sea, enlarging up to a thousand times and turning to gas as they drifted upward."

El Niño is related to ocean warming. "Ice ages looked like El Niño," according to the July 12, 2002 issue of Nature. "During past ice ages," the article says, "the tropical Pacific Ocean behaved rather as it does today in an El Niño event. ... Shifts between warm and cool global average temperatures look like super El Niños."

"Our seas, heated by underwater volcanism, are leading us directly into the next ice age ... and we don't even know it."

"That's what El Niño is all about," Felix explains. "Warmer seas send excess moisture into the sky, leading to increased precipitation.

"Worldwide flood activity is the worst since before Christopher Columbus. In Poland, it's the worst in several thousand years. In the United States, precipitation has increased by more than 20 percent just since 1970. This is no coincidence.

"When that precipitation begins falling in the winter, you have the makings of an ice age."

Now for a few more sobering thoughts. Thanks to the growing levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, rainfall is increasing in amounts and intensity. We have been witnessing incredibly heavy rainfalls over the past year. As I write this, parts of New York and New England are being hit with anywhere from 9 to 12 inches of rain. Nine to 12 inches!


Given the fact that an inch of rain is the equivalent a foot of snow, just contemplate the results of those 9 inches of rain becoming 9 feet of snow, or 12 inches of rain falling as 12 feet of snow this winter.

That snowfall will come in the form of violent blizzards carrying hurricane-force winds. Why? Because, as mentioned above, the fronts coming south will be bitterly cold while the air moving north will be even warmer, thanks to warmer oceans heating the temperate zones. The two will clash and produce havoc and destruction on a massive scale.


Imagine 9 or even 12 feet of snow falling in the Midwest and not melting for weeks on end. You are talking about the onset of nothing less than an ice age.

As The Associated Press reported: "More than 176,000 people died in the earthquake and tsunami of December; an estimated 20,000 to 30,000 in the quake Saturday; perhaps 1,000 or more in Guatemalan landslides last week; more than 1,200 in Katrina. Asian beaches, mountainous Kashmir villages and American urban streets and casinos all were overwhelmed."

There's a lot more to come. As I said, we ain't seen nothing yet.
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#2 Postby nystate » Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:00 pm

Imagine 9 or even 12 feet of snow falling in the Midwest and not melting for weeks on end. You are talking about the onset of nothing less than an ice age.


Bah, come on. We had over 10 feet of snow fall in a few (I think 3) days in Montague, NY in '01...and we all survived!

And then 7 feet fell in Oswego County, NY last year on top of 3 feet already on the ground...and we survived!

Plus, the snow compacts even at temperatures well below freezing, therfore the snow level would decrease even if the temperature never rose above freezing.

Once you plow it and shovel it off of your roof then it isn't that much of a problem... :P
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Re: "Not by Fire But by Ice"

#3 Postby donsutherland1 » Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:58 pm

CaptinCrunch,

In my view, Mr. Brennan's article lacks credibility. The author seems not to have any familiarity with some of the extreme winters that have occurred.

The coldest winters on record for select cities (December-February):

Boston: 1917-18: 23.900°
New York City: 1917-18: 25.700°
Philadelphia: 1835-36: 27.667°
Washington, DC: 1904-05: 29.033°

Those records are almost certainly safe.
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Re: "Not by Fire But by Ice"

#4 Postby CaptinCrunch » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:23 am

donsutherland1 wrote:CaptinCrunch,

In my view, Mr. Brennan's article lacks credibility. The author seems not to have any familiarity with some of the extreme winters that have occurred.

The coldest winters on record for select cities (December-February):

Boston: 1917-18: 23.900°
New York City: 1917-18: 25.700°
Philadelphia: 1835-36: 27.667°
Washington, DC: 1904-05: 29.033°

Those records are almost certainly safe.


I just saw this article and thought it would be a fun read, everyone seems to think that the East coast is headed for a colder than avg winter. With the way thing are looking, everyone will see a streach of above and below temps nation wide.
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#5 Postby W13 » Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:10 pm

If you are interested in more of this subject, you should check out http://www.iceagenow.com and get his book "Not By Fire But By Ice". He also appears on Coast to Coast AM frequently. Very knowledgable person. :)
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#6 Postby truballer#1 » Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:36 pm

I don't kno, but I think I agee wit dis artical.
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#7 Postby Aslkahuna » Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:55 pm

Curious though, just precisely what chemical reaction causes CO2 to become moisture (H20)?

Steve
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#8 Postby Rob Beaux » Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:07 am

I asked that here:( sorta)
http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=78029

And was told it was a typo. YEAH RIGHT.
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#9 Postby truballer#1 » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:07 pm

It looks like a LOT of hype in order to sell a book. This guy is probably not even a scientist. The more extreme your views, the better chance you have to get into newspapers and on TV to sell books. No balanced scientists can get their responsible views heard in today's world.
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#10 Postby mcw » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:36 pm

nystate wrote:
Imagine 9 or even 12 feet of snow falling in the Midwest and not melting for weeks on end. You are talking about the onset of nothing less than an ice age.


Bah, come on. We had over 10 feet of snow fall in a few (I think 3) days in Montague, NY in '01...and we all survived!

And then 7 feet fell in Oswego County, NY last year on top of 3 feet already on the ground...and we survived!

Plus, the snow compacts even at temperatures well below freezing, therfore the snow level would decrease even if the temperature never rose above freezing.

Once you plow it and shovel it off of your roof then it isn't that much of a problem... :P


Yep...as a fellow Great Lakes snowbelt resident, 100% agreement. It would take a lot more than 12 feet to kill us. Ice storms are a bigger threat, because people try to drive during/after, or they get killed by falling limbs or downed power lines. Create a credible scenario involving constant ice storms...I'll get worried then. :wink:
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#11 Postby ThunderSnow1 » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:49 pm

Aslkahuna wrote:Curious though, just precisely what chemical reaction causes CO2 to become moisture (H20)?

Steve



Subatomic processes, which will never exist on Earth...lol

I listened to this guy on the radio.. he said El Nino was being caused by under water volcanos.. then he said el nino is the reason for the elevated hurricane season... Which makes no sense because neatral and la nina years have more tropical activity in the atlantic then EL Nino years......
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#12 Postby weatherfan » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:50 am

I agree with you that it does it add up.And this year the ENSO was in its in between phase no La nina or El nino.Unless his argurement is more in lies with the warmer oceans.I just say that its base on the guy opinion.And like a lot of Aruthers with very strong opinions they tend to make up there on site's to help sell there books.While I may not agree with everything the guy says I do still repeck his opinion.Because I beleave everyone has there own belife and opinions.And I don't beleave anyone will change his opinion on it.Because that just what the aruther in his opinion beleaves.I say we can all have our therys and opinions on Earth climate but only Mother Nature knows the real truth to the future.I do think we have a better understanding on some askpacks of climate but if we knew everything on climate I don't think we would have the debate that we have on it today.
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