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F1 or F2 in Hamburg-Germany

#1 Postby Bunkertor » Tue May 09, 2006 4:58 pm

Quite unusual !
On 28. of March a strong F1 hit Hamburg, 2 construction-workers dead in their cranes, 300000 without power. Traffic collapses for 4 hours. 140 trains stuck.
If someone is interested, i can send the pictures. I don´t know, if i´m allowed to post them here, because some are from SPIEGEL-Mag.

Eike, Hamburg
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#2 Postby Bunkertor » Tue May 09, 2006 5:00 pm

Here is a link to a SPIEGEL-Magazine report in english :

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,408386,00.html
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#3 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Tue May 09, 2006 9:45 pm

Wow...thats a pretty rare occurance...
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#4 Postby Bunkertor » Tue May 09, 2006 10:02 pm

Indeed. But i can´t believe, the didn´t get the workers out of their cranes.
The Hamburg Tornado occured, because the Jet-Stream went over northern Germany at this time.


But check here ! That was even worse for germany. It happened in lower saxony...

http://www.saevert.de/micheln.htm
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#5 Postby Bunkertor » Tue May 09, 2006 10:03 pm

Could you take a look at the pictures. How would you rate it ?

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,553 ... _3,00.html
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#6 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Tue May 09, 2006 10:06 pm

Cool pics. Do they have a National Weather Service or something similar in Germany?
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#7 Postby Bunkertor » Tue May 09, 2006 10:14 pm

It´s nothing similar. The warn in case of strong winds or lightning or heavy rain.

That looks like that

http://www.dwd.de/

or

http://www.unwetterzentrale.de

It´s well developed but ordinary people here don´t really need special outlooks like in OK.
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#8 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Tue May 09, 2006 10:16 pm

Bunkertor wrote:It´s nothing similar. The warn in case of strong winds or lightning or heavy rain.

That looks like that

http://www.dwd.de/

or

http://www.unwetterzentrale.de

It´s well developed but ordinary people here don´t really need special outlooks like in OK.


So then what do you guys do in tornadic situations like you had the otherday?
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#9 Postby SamSagnella » Tue May 09, 2006 10:17 pm

According to ESTOFEX there were four tornadoes in Germany that day: 3 F1s and an F2, which hit Hamburg.

more information is available at: http://essl.org/ESWD/

scroll down and enter the date 27 03 2006
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#10 Postby Bunkertor » Tue May 09, 2006 10:25 pm

Nothing - just getting surprised and praying...building a severe weather alert system is to expensive for 2 F0´s a year. When it really hits us, people are not prepared. But there is no problem with mobile homes for example - so there´s no reason to fear about casualties.
I for myself would " duck and cover " :-)

So then what do you guys do in tornadic situations like you had the otherday?[/quote]
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#11 Postby Bunkertor » Tue May 09, 2006 10:28 pm

SamSagnella wrote:According to ESTOFEX there were four tornadoes in Germany that day: 3 F1s and an F2, which hit Hamburg.

more information is available at: http://essl.org/ESWD/

scroll down and enter the date 27 03 2006



Wow - thanks for the link - i didn´t know this site.
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#12 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Tue May 09, 2006 10:34 pm

Bunkertor wrote:Nothing - just getting surprised and praying...building a severe weather alert system is to expensive for 2 F0´s a year. When it really hits us, people are not prepared. But there is no problem with mobile homes for example - so there´s no reason to fear about casualties.
I for myself would " duck and cover " :-)

So then what do you guys do in tornadic situations like you had the otherday?
[/quote] In tornadic situations in the U.S. a tornado watch may or may not precede a tornado. The watch usually means that tornadoes are possible in the outlined area during the day. If a torandic storm then forms, a tornado warning will be issued on a county wide basis. These warnings get to the people through radio, TV, etc. and in many Midwestern cities...a tornado warning siren will sound. Based on the warning and your relative location in comparison to the storm you either take cover or monitor the situation. When a tornado hits, most would take cover in a bathroom or windowless interior room...or a basement/storm shelter if available. Immediately after a tornado, the clean up will begin and the National Weather Service will come out to the tornado sight to determine it's intensity. The intensity is then usually announced within 36 hours. We usually will get word that tornadoes are possible for the day hours in advance (though not always), and we usually get warning that one is on the ground about 3-15 minutes before it hits. This is not always the case, however. Some tornadoes have hit with no warning, and others have had over 30 minutes of warning.

The orgnization that issues tornado watches is the storm prediction center located in Norman, OK. Tornado warnings are then issued on a local level (by local National weather service offices).
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#13 Postby Bunkertor » Tue May 09, 2006 10:47 pm

Yes, you can´t predict a touchdown. But over here, it wouldn´t be possible because we have only a few freaky spotters following hailclouds. In the south there are hailflyers that powder silveroxide into clouds so the can rain down and fruit and wineyards are protected. But i never heard a wether massage on radio that predicted more than hail or flood or something.
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#14 Postby 6SpeedTA95 » Wed May 10, 2006 9:10 am

When the weather gets bad here I have it on the TV, and have one of my PC's up and running typically bouncing around between a couple forums and several weather windows. When there's some big time severe weather in the area I typically have both PC's up. My laptop so I can sit in front of the TV and stream multiple sources. The other PC in my office and its tracking/recording nexrad data so I can analyze it. I guess if a tornado came into our area we'd get in the center closet at our house.
The bad part is most folks dont even attempt to watch the weather. They flip over to it during commercials or something. Unless sirens go off they rarely pay attention around here.
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