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Pattern changing for the SE?

#1 Postby GAStorm » Thu Sep 04, 2003 4:40 pm

I was just checking the long range forecast, and it looks to be a bit dry for another week or so. Does anyone know if that trend will continue into fall? We really have cut back on the precip lately!
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#2 Postby GAStorm » Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:37 pm

My bad, they changed our forecast after I wrote this yesterday. :wink: There is now a chance of showers from TS Henri tomorrow night and Sunday.

Anyway, I found an interesting Dr. Dewpoint article that many people who like winter will enjoy. Check out the link:

http://intellicast.com/DrDewpoint/Library/1401/
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#3 Postby JCT777 » Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:54 pm

Nice article. I guess the question I have is: What was the winter of 1958/59 like in the east? The article seems to point to that winter as a possible analog for the upcoming 2003/04 winter.
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#4 Postby GAStorm » Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:05 pm

Good point JCT777! Not sure what that means as far as totals are concerned. Anybody have more info on this?
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#5 Postby Constructionwx » Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:12 pm

I just found this link.

http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/enso/uspmaps.html

Scroll to bottom.
(good info on the whole page though)

58-59 looks ok for the NE US.

I guess it's time to start thinking about the upcoming winter. Very noticeable drop in the humidity today, actually felt a little cool this AM.

I'm not a big analog fan. Weather is chaos. I'll never see two winters the same in my life.

RP
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#6 Postby JCT777 » Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:41 pm

Constructionwx wrote:58-59 looks ok for the NE US.

I guess it's time to start thinking about the upcoming winter. Very noticeable drop in the humidity today, actually felt a little cool this AM.

I'm not a big analog fan. Weather is chaos. I'll never see two winters the same in my life.

RP


Thanks for the info, RP. Agreed that no two winters are the same. But two winters COULD have a similar pattern. That is why I was curious about 58/59. Thanks again.
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#7 Postby GAStorm » Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:40 pm

Thanks for the info Constructionwx! Your right about winter in the south, no two years are identical. I sure hope that applies to this winter since we didn't get any snow last year. One more year like that, and I'm moving further north! :wink:
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#8 Postby bkhusky2 » Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:50 pm

What I'd give to have another storm like March 93. :D

It was nice having the lower humidity today, although the temp was still pretty warm. Looks like the SE might go under a ridge for a while (out past say 5 days), which could put us in the oven.
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#9 Postby grentz7721 » Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:02 pm

Looks like the pattern changed a little bit. :o This could mean dry air for
the rest of summer and into fall.
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#10 Postby Constructionwx » Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:03 pm

Hey JCT,

I think GAStorm made a good ob. I suppose I'm thinking more locally, as the the jet only visits us occasionally during winter, when your location could go for prolonged periods with it to your south.

GA - I'd think that the amount of moisture in the soil, in the SE would help our chances of seeing a nice snow event or two this year. iyam. Reason being.... It just always seemed that you could watch an impending snowfall here just dry up and vanish as it moved across the Alabama Border.

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#11 Postby Constructionwx » Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:06 pm

bkhusky2 wrote:What I'd give to have another storm like March 93. :D

It was nice having the lower humidity today, although the temp was still pretty warm. Looks like the SE might go under a ridge for a while (out past say 5 days), which could put us in the oven.



March 93 - Would've been the most snow I had ever seen. I was in Florida :(
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#12 Postby GAStorm » Fri Sep 05, 2003 7:08 pm

Constructionwx wrote:GA - I'd think that the amount of moisture in the soil, in the SE would help our chances of seeing a nice snow event or two this year. iyam. Reason being.... It just always seemed that you could watch an impending snowfall here just dry up and vanish as it moved across the Alabama Border.


That is so true! Just a few years back I remember when they closed all the schools here expecting a major winter storm during the day. After waiting several hours, I was wondering why it didn't happen. Once I saw the dewpoint, I realized the air was just too dry. All the snow they received in Alabama didn't make it here. Once it finally arrived at night, we only received a couple inches instead of the 5+ we should of had. Anyway, I really do hope we finally get something good this winter!
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#13 Postby Constructionwx » Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:00 pm

I couldn't find daily data like this for Marietta, but here it is for Gainesville.

http://climate.engr.uga.edu/gainesville/index.html

I think that the data for snowfall isn't the best, I looked for days that I knew it snowed, and they showed zip. But you can sorta extrapolate frozen precip by the precip totals and the highs/lows for any particular day.

Now you've really started me thinking about winter !!

RP
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#14 Postby GAStorm » Mon Sep 08, 2003 1:14 pm

Constructionwx wrote:I couldn't find daily data like this for Marietta, but here it is for Gainesville.

http://climate.engr.uga.edu/gainesville/index.html

I think that the data for snowfall isn't the best, I looked for days that I knew it snowed, and they showed zip. But you can sorta extrapolate frozen precip by the precip totals and the highs/lows for any particular day.

Now you've really started me thinking about winter !!

RP


Good link RP! Definitely shows how cold it was in certain years. The 80's were the coldest and snowiest years for sure! Anyway, I always start thinking about winter well before it gets here!! :wink:
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#15 Postby Superstorm » Mon Sep 08, 2003 3:37 pm

58-59 was very cold and VERY dry. Some really cold temps, but only 7" of snow (my average is 15").
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