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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern

#1181 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:59 pm

Warm, dry air about a kilometer or so up, blowing off the high plateaus of Mexico. Clouds trying to grow up into that tend to have trouble rising, both because it is warmer aloft (stable), and because the dry air evaporates the water droplets.


Storms that pass by fairly far to the North, while having South winds at the surface which bring in humid air, will usually have Southwest winds above that, bringing in the capping layer.


On the skew-T forecast below, for 7 pm, the RUC is predicting the cap between about 1000 meters and 3000 meters, meaning thunderstorms are quite unlikely. Convective inhibition, or 'CINH' is also a measure of cap strength.

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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern

#1182 Postby rainman31 » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:06 pm

great explanation, thanks. any idea on how long this will last?
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern

#1183 Postby Ptarmigan » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:44 pm

I wonder if La Nina plays some role in contributing to the capping aloft? I know in El Nino years, we tend to have storms stay intact and hit Houston. I remember in El Nino years, it is usually more common to see more storms hit Houston. They generally were less likely to fizzle out. Than again I remember in May of 1999, we had a La Nina, and that storm was forecasted to weaken, but it intensified. It was a severe weather event that led to widespread power outages, the most since Hurricane Alicia.
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern

#1184 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:29 pm

rainman31 wrote:great explanation, thanks. any idea on how long this will last?


Storms that approach Houston closer to our latitude are less likely to have the winds just above the surface coming from the desert, and it seems like the tilt of the trough also affects it, with positive tilt troughs more likely to cap SE Texas than neutral and negative troughs.


Assuming the axis of the sub-tropical ridge gets sufficiently far North of our latitude, deep Easterly flow during the Summer months tends to mean little cap. If the ridge is overhead, subsidence will tend to curtail sea-breeze storms somewhat, and steer tropical waves well South of here.
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern

#1185 Postby jasons2k » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:23 am

From Jeff Lindner:

Tornado Ally gets its name of days like today….significant severe weather/tornado outbreak likely today across TX and OK including the threat of long tracked violent tornadoes.

Discussion:

Very moist air mass continues to flow northward over TX with GPS derived sounding data showing PWS of 1.1-1.2 inches and the GFS forecasting a rise to 1.5-1.7 inches over the next 24 hours. Large upper storm system over the southern Rockies will spawn rapidly deepening surface low pressure over NW TX this afternoon with surface dry line extending southward toward the Rio Grande plains. Warm sector over C TX will become very unstable and highly sheared by late afternoon with 80kts of 500mb flow atop 40kts low level jet. Surface heating will push CAPES toward 3000 J/kg by late afternoon and dry line should focus development and break mid level inversion. Expect intense supercell development along the dry line from NW TX to SW TX or from about Wichita Falls to Del Rio. Storm mode will be dangerous supercells with golfball to baseball size hail and a high tornado threat…especially NW of Waco to SW of OKC as 995mb surface low deepens in this region. Outbreak will continue overnight and eastward as storm ejects into the southern plains. High end tornado threat through at least midnight before storms congeal into mode of a line or MCS as the low level jet increases. There may be some really big tornadoes today across C an N TX.

Locally:

Air mass continues to moisten this morning with dewpoints pushing 70…starting to feel like summer now. Look out the window shows little in the way of low stratus clouds so surface heating will get going early today. ACARS out of IAH and CLL show a weaker capping inversion than model forecast have been suggesting and a convective temp. around 80. We should be able to reach 80 with no problem. Also of note is the line of thunderstorms over NE TX and the potential it may send an outflow boundary toward our northern counties by early afternoon….otherwise really no low level focus until Thursday. Will need to keep a close eye on things this afternoon N of I-10 where caps will be weakest as a few storms may be able to punch through and would quickly go severe.

Thursday:

Models continue to advertise an active weather day as southern plain storm system plows into deep moisture and delivers strong shear across a very unstable warm sector. Although may factors are point toward severe weather….experience this spring season has been for the capping inversion to win out keeping storms isolated or not allowing development at all. For now will take the middle road and go with a severe threat along and NE of a line from Columbus to Sugar Land to Galveston Thursday afternoon as the dry line moves across our area. Feel deepening moisture and heating along with possible phantom short waves not detected in the SW flow aloft will be enough to overcome the cap and get things going. Also the timing of the dry line moving through during the afternoon is thermodynamically favorable for thunderstorms. SPC has outlooked the N 1/3rd of the area for a slight risk on Thursday…but feel the main threat will be NE of the above mentioned line with highest probabilities over our far northern and northeastern counties from Huntsville to Lake Livingston. Main severe modes will be large hail and damaging winds with isolated tornadoes possible with cells that remain isolated on the southern end of the development region feeding off the low level jet.

Extended:

Stellar weekend on tap as cold front sweeps the area Friday morning with NW flow aloft through early next week. Sunny skies with light winds and very mild temps with really no humidity Saturday and Sunday. Lows in the low to mid 50’s and highs in the mid to upper 70’s both days.
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#1186 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:09 pm

The latest NWS forecast now calls for lows down into the 40s this weekend with highs struggling to make the lower 70s on Saturday and Sunday under sunny skies. It is going to feel nice!
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Stormy, then a nice weekend.

#1187 Postby jasons2k » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:37 am

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
945 AM CDT THU APR 10 2008

.UPDATE...
STRONG CAP LOOKS TO HAVE WON OUT ON THIS EVENT ACARS SOUNDINGS AT
IAH SHOWING VERY IMPRESSIVE CAP STILL IN PLACE. RADAR TRENDS
INDICATE THIS AS WELL AS LINE OF STORMS APPROACHED THE AREA FROM
THE WEST THEY HAVE TENDED TO SHOWERS. FAR NORTHERN COUNTIES MAY
STILL GET A FEW THUNDERSTORMS BUT SEVERE THREAT APPEARS TO HAVE
WANED AS WELL. THOUGH WIND PROFILE STILL STRONG THE LOWER LEVELS
BELOW 2500 FT HAVE TAPERED OFF. HAVE CANCELED THE TORNADO WATCH
AND DROPPED THE COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY...TIDES PEAKING OR FALLING
NOW. WILL PARE BACK POPS SOMEWHAT AND WORD AS PRIMARILY
SHOWERS...ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS NORTH.
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Stormy, then a nice weekend.

#1188 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:48 am

jasons wrote:
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
945 AM CDT THU APR 10 2008

.UPDATE...
STRONG CAP LOOKS TO HAVE WON OUT ON THIS EVENT ACARS SOUNDINGS AT
IAH SHOWING VERY IMPRESSIVE CAP STILL IN PLACE. RADAR TRENDS
INDICATE THIS AS WELL AS LINE OF STORMS APPROACHED THE AREA FROM
THE WEST THEY HAVE TENDED TO SHOWERS. FAR NORTHERN COUNTIES MAY
STILL GET A FEW THUNDERSTORMS BUT SEVERE THREAT APPEARS TO HAVE
WANED AS WELL. THOUGH WIND PROFILE STILL STRONG THE LOWER LEVELS
BELOW 2500 FT HAVE TAPERED OFF. HAVE CANCELED THE TORNADO WATCH
AND DROPPED THE COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY...TIDES PEAKING OR FALLING
NOW. WILL PARE BACK POPS SOMEWHAT AND WORD AS PRIMARILY
SHOWERS...ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS NORTH.




The thread title might be a tad misleading, more like "SE TX/SW LA weather: A few showers under the cap, then a mild and dry weekend."

Although if the further Eastward you extend what you define SW Louisiana, the weaker the cap. Cap almost gone per WRF forecast sounding at peak heating in Lafayette.
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Stormy, then a nice weekend.

#1189 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:34 pm

Cleveland, TX might almost hear an isolated crack of thunder next 30 minutes...
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#1190 Postby southerngale » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:41 pm

I woke up in the wee morning hours and before moving to my bed, I checked the radar, forecast, etc. and there was a rather impressive line of thunderstorms in Central Texas headed this way. When I got another chance to check radar late this morning, it had completely fallen apart. May not rain/storm after all!
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Cooler weather this weekend

#1191 Postby jasons2k » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:22 am

Somehow I managed to get .10" yesterday but that's still not much. Sprinklers on this weekend.

Looks like one more very pleasant weekend ahead before we get into the muggy soup until October. I'm ready though - cleaned the pool filters last weekend, shocked the daylights out of it, and the water temp is now almost 70F. Once we hit 90F again I'm in!! 8-)
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#1192 Postby southerngale » Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:47 pm

Jason... and just when it hits 70F, 3 days of low to mid-40's expected. Image
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#1193 Postby jasons2k » Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:22 pm

southerngale wrote:Jason... and just when it hits 70F, 3 days of low to mid-40's expected. Image


Tell me about it! Two weekends ago I was SO close to jumping-in for the first time, and then these two cruddy late-season cold snaps beat the water temps back down! I do love the nice weather, but I'm ready for pool time....if it's not warm enough by May 1st I'm going to have some serious withdrawals.
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#1194 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:15 pm

Dewpoints have gotten much lower than first forecast today. They were expected to only reach the lower 40s this afternoon, but it seems as though we have gone beyond that. As of noon, the dewpoint at Hooks airport is 35F and at IAH it is 33F! This is quite a nice/dry April day we are experiencing!
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#1195 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:45 pm

Tomorrow night looks pretty chilly. Here are the forecasted lows around the region...

Waco - 37F
Huntsville - 40F
College Station - 40F
Lufkin - 35F
Brenham - 41F
Conroe - 39F
Tomball - 41F
IAH - 44F
Downtown Houston - 45F
Galveston - 56F
Sugar Land - 44F
Beaumont - 41F (Monday night will be colder..forecast = 38F)
Jasper - 37F
Lake Charles - 42F (Monday night will be colder..forecast = 38F)

...It looks like Monday morning may be jacket-worthy for many of us, and some places could even be looking at some patchy frost. :cold: This is going to be a real shock to the system after many weeks of warm, muggy, Spring-like weather!
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#1196 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:03 am

Here is an updated look at tonight's forecasted lows...

Waco - 33F
Huntsville - 38F
College Station - 39F
Lufkin - 35F
Brenham - 40F
Conroe - 38F
Tomball - 40F
IAH - 43F
Downtown Houston - 43F
Galveston - 54F
Sugar Land - 43F
Beaumont - 42F
Jasper - 38F
Lake Charles - 42F
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#1197 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:57 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:Here is an updated look at tonight's forecasted lows...

Waco - 33F
Huntsville - 38F
College Station - 39F
Lufkin - 35F
Brenham - 40F
Conroe - 38F
Tomball - 40F
IAH - 43F
Downtown Houston - 43F
Galveston - 54F
Sugar Land - 43F
Beaumont - 42F
Jasper - 38F
Lake Charles - 42F



Old Man Winter not quite done with us yet.
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Cooler weather this weekend

#1198 Postby PTrackerLA » Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:19 pm

Our forecast calls for low 40's tonight and upper 30's Monday night. The record low for both nights is 39 so we have a good chance of tying for breaking that tomorrow night. Winter's last stand is here!
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#1199 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:03 am

4/14/08 6am Temperatures...

Waco - 35F
Huntsville - 38F
College Station - 39F
Lufkin - 38F
Brenham - 37F
Conroe - 36F
Tomball - 40F
IAH - 45F
Katy - 41F
Galveston - 54F
Sugar Land - 45F
Beaumont - 46F
Jasper - 36F
Lake Charles - 45F

My thermometer (as of 6:03am) - 38.5F
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Re: SE TX/SW LA weather: Spring-like pattern returns this week

#1200 Postby jasons2k » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:22 am

My old-fashioned mercury thermometer recorded 43F

The digital Davis system 1/2 a mile away hit 42.7F: http://guggenheimfamily.com/Weather/Cur ... _Plus.html

One more chilly morning and then we can finally say goodbye to winter.
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