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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1361 Postby Jarodm12 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:49 am

12z icon confirmed euro it will be snowing by Monday night! Let's see what the rest of the 12z guidance says I am hopeful we can lock this in less than 6 days away !
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1362 Postby gboudx » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:00 am

Jarodm12 wrote:12z icon confirmed euro it will be snowing by Monday night! Let's see what the rest of the 12z guidance says I am hopeful we can lock this in less than 6 days away !


No doubt it'll be snowing. But where?
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1363 Postby TheProfessor » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:01 am

The Icon and Euro aren't doing the same thing as of right now. The Euro is strictly digging the trough deeper, putting North Texas into the game for snow. Whereas the Icon is actually cutting the low off and digging it into Texas. The Icon would probably be even better for Texas compared to the Euro if there was a touch more cold air.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1364 Postby TheProfessor » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:02 am

It should also be noted this isn't the first time the Icon has formed a cutoff low, so it's something to definitely keep an eye on.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1365 Postby Jarodm12 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:05 am

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Jarodm12 wrote:12z icon confirmed euro it will be snowing by Monday night! Let's see what the rest of the 12z guidance says I am hopeful we can lock this in less than 6 days away !


No doubt it'll be snowing. But where?

I'm in Durant Oklahoma if you look at the temps during the event we are around 33 degrees and the maps showing mixed precipitation and then if you look at the snow totals on the icon it is showing accumulated snow all the way into dfrw area
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1366 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 am

I am having trouble seeing much on the potential for snow early next week unless the main trough can tie into some E Pac energy. Models do show a weak system near Baja and if the trough ties into that we will see the potential for precip in the cold air increase quite a bit.

The 1976 system came from split flow with a big western Canada ridge with flat flow under the ridge into the West Coast which buckled and formed a cut off low over California. Looks like temps were in the 20s west of I35 and low to mid 30s east of 35 which is typical of most snows around here.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1367 Postby AubreyStorm » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:13 am

Yesssss! I will waiting the SNOW here in Denton, Texas ..... Y’all :froze: :cold: :ggreen:
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1368 Postby rwfromkansas » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:13 am

Snowing 2-4 inches back home in Kansas by tomorrow. That is very early for Kansas. Hopefully a good sign for us.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1369 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:22 am

Jarodm12 wrote:
gboudx wrote:
Jarodm12 wrote:12z icon confirmed euro it will be snowing by Monday night! Let's see what the rest of the 12z guidance says I am hopeful we can lock this in less than 6 days away !


No doubt it'll be snowing. But where?

I'm in Durant Oklahoma if you look at the temps during the event we are around 33 degrees and the maps showing mixed precipitation and then if you look at the snow totals on the icon it is showing accumulated snow all the way into dfrw area

On the ICON temps are very borderline so a couple degrees one way or another at any level drastically changes things. It is our best shot though because without this cut off or a phase with the E Pac just about all precip will fall ahead of the cold air.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1370 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:28 am

Also Tropical Tidbits does not do a good job of showing snow depth. Looking at weather.us you see less than an inch with many areas seeing nothing across N TX per the German (ICON) model. It does show several inches for part of the Panhandle and almost 8 inches in Jeff Davis and Culberson counties in in far west Texas.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1371 Postby Ntxw » Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:42 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:I am having trouble seeing much on the potential for snow early next week unless the main trough can tie into some E Pac energy. Models do show a weak system near Baja and if the trough ties into that we will see the potential for precip in the cold air increase quite a bit.

The 1976 system came from split flow with a big western Canada ridge with flat flow under the ridge into the West Coast which buckled and formed a cut off low over California. Looks like temps were in the 20s west of I35 and low to mid 30s east of 35 which is typical of most snows around here.


I'd give the models some time to work out the shortwave that has yet to even come into view. Also there will be an active STJ hanging around. Now it is a marginal, slim chance but early in the season brings some excitement around here.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1372 Postby Brent » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:27 pm

the Euro is gonna be close again for DFW... definitely snow to the northwest and as soon as Sunday Night in the Panhandle

Er looks like it stays pretty far up in Oklahoma much faster end to the precip, Mostly an Amarillo-OKC snowstorm
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1373 Postby wxman57 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:34 pm

The Euro I'm looking at has snow in the TX Panhandle (where it belongs) and nothing in NE TX but some cold rain. Enjoy this final cold front of the season, everyone... ;-)

Euro has temps from the low 40s to mid 50s in the DFW area Sunday, but a low in the lower 30s (first freeze?) on Tuesday.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1374 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:26 pm

That trough really needs to dig further sw a lot earlier. By the time it reaches its apex of southerly movement it’s over central and east Texas which allows the coldest air and a lot of the precipitation to go east of us. If it were on that same longitude in northern Mexico (south of Arizona) as it is over Texas at hour 144 on the 12z Euro then we’d be in for some business.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1375 Postby Brent » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:36 pm

wxman57 wrote:The Euro I'm looking at has snow in the TX Panhandle (where it belongs) and nothing in NE TX but some cold rain. Enjoy this final cold front of the season, everyone... ;-)

Euro has temps from the low 40s to mid 50s in the DFW area Sunday, but a low in the lower 30s (first freeze?) on Tuesday.


Final cold front if you say so :roflmao:

Yea the early week storm needs to dig earlier for us to have a real chance
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1376 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:37 pm

wxman57 wrote:The Euro I'm looking at has snow in the TX Panhandle (where it belongs) and nothing in NE TX but some cold rain. Enjoy this final cold front of the season, everyone... ;-)

Euro has temps from the low 40s to mid 50s in the DFW area Sunday, but a low in the lower 30s (first freeze?) on Tuesday.


Early Spring? :sun:
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1377 Postby Ralph's Weather » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:38 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:I am having trouble seeing much on the potential for snow early next week unless the main trough can tie into some E Pac energy. Models do show a weak system near Baja and if the trough ties into that we will see the potential for precip in the cold air increase quite a bit.

The 1976 system came from split flow with a big western Canada ridge with flat flow under the ridge into the West Coast which buckled and formed a cut off low over California. Looks like temps were in the 20s west of I35 and low to mid 30s east of 35 which is typical of most snows around here.


I'd give the models some time to work out the shortwave that has yet to even come into view. Also there will be an active STJ hanging around. Now it is a marginal, slim chance but early in the season brings some excitement around here.

Agreed, if this ties into the STJ everything is on the table for a good event. If this does not dig until it's over our heads it will just be some storms ahead of the cold air and just dry cold early next week. If this digs over the Pecos or west we could have a decent event. For now my forecast (NE TX focused and not wxman57's NE TX but the rest of our definition :ggreen:) will hedge towards a non event with mention of an outside chance at something. The only reason I give it a chance is because of how active the STJ has been.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1378 Postby CaptinCrunch » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:44 pm

@Wxman57 please dont excite a riot with this bunch, they still haven't put away their pitchforks and torches from last winter. :lol: :wink:
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1379 Postby BrokenGlassRepublicn » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:48 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:@Wxman57 please dont excite a riot with this bunch, they still haven't put away their pitchforks and torches from last winter. :lol: :wink:

Exactly. Dude still owes DFW some snow.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#1380 Postby Brent » Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:52 pm

BrokenGlassRepublicn wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:@Wxman57 please dont excite a riot with this bunch, they still haven't put away their pitchforks and torches from last winter. :lol: :wink:

Exactly. Dude still owes DFW some snow.


yeah, I'm still bitter. :grrr: and I'm gonna be bitter... :grrr:
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