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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1561 Postby Tireman4 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:49 am

Ntxw wrote:Portastorm will never again gripe about not getting rain if the NAM and latest GFS came to light. In fact if that happened Porta will resent rain for the next decade..



Now all is needed is Snow so he and Champ The Charger can go frolicking out...
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1562 Postby Ntxw » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:02 am

The silver lining in all of this, once past the obvious dangers for our neighbors in c-s-se Texas, is that the evolving pattern has already transitioned to a more fall like setting. There are no impending heat waves or synoptic set ups that favor a late push of summer. I am confident in saying the bulk of summer is over.
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1563 Postby gboudx » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:10 am

I saw a poster on the Harvey Discussion thread about the DFW area getting at least 2" of rain from this. Anyone else see this amount of rain forecasted or know where this is coming from?
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1564 Postby DonWrk » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:14 am

I see there is a slight trend of it coming farther north on some models after it goes back out and makes it's second landfall. Is there really no way Harvey gets close enough to us to make some impacts, rainfall?
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1565 Postby Brent » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:20 am

If it hangs around as long as the gfs has we could have impacts into September possibly up here in Dallas

At the very least it's gonna keep temps down whether we get significant rain or not
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1566 Postby Ntxw » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:22 am

gboudx wrote:I saw a poster on the Harvey Discussion thread about the DFW area getting at least 2" of rain from this. Anyone else see this amount of rain forecasted or know where this is coming from?


One of the GFS runs. Any showers that form may put a lot of rain localized, but if we were to get rain it would be later in the week as focus shifts away from the center due to weakening and moisture spreads out. Depends on movement.
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1567 Postby BrokenGlassRepublicn » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:22 am

Ntxw wrote:The silver lining in all of this, once past the obvious dangers for our neighbors in c-s-se Texas, is that the evolving pattern has already transitioned to a more fall like setting. There are no impending heat waves or synoptic set ups that favor a late push of summer. I am confident in saying the bulk of summer is over.

I know we still have 7 days left, but with the looks of the forecast for DFW, how will this end up ranking in terms of coolest August on record?
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1568 Postby Brent » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:29 am

Harvey could affect labor day weekend on the gfs lol
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1569 Postby gboudx » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:35 am

Ntxw wrote:
gboudx wrote:I saw a poster on the Harvey Discussion thread about the DFW area getting at least 2" of rain from this. Anyone else see this amount of rain forecasted or know where this is coming from?


One of the GFS runs. Any showers that form may put a lot of rain localized, but if we were to get rain it would be later in the week as focus shifts away from the center due to weakening and moisture spreads out. Depends on movement.


I could buy "localized" impacts, but the comment I read suggested it would be more widespread since there was talk of lake water releases here, compounding flooding issues in SETX. It would take a lot of rain here for that to happen since some of the lakes are meant to hold lots of water for flood control purposes. I was just wondering if models were showing more widespread, heavier rains here. I guess we'll see how this progresses as Harvey sloshes around.
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1570 Postby Brent » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:53 am

Past labor day there's a huge cold front on the gfs
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1571 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:38 pm


000
FXUS64 KEWX 251635 AAA
AFDEWX

Area Forecast Discussion...UPDATED
National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio TX
1135 AM CDT Fri Aug 25 2017

.UPDATE...
Harvey is slowly moving northwestward in the Gulf of Mexico,
currently as a strong category 2 hurricane, and continuing to
strengthen as it approaches the Texas coastline. This northwestward
movement is expected to continue and Harvey should make landfall
late tonight/Saturday morning. Confidence remains high in a major
rainfall event taking place across much of South Central Texas, in
addition to some locations closer to the coast experiencing hurricane
force and tropical storm force winds.

At this stage, a life-threatening and catastrophic heavy rainfall
event appears imminent for much of South Central Texas east of
Interstate 35 and Interstate 37. This could lead to significant flash
flooding across these areas. Average storm total rainfall amounts of
10 to 20 inches are expected east of Interstate 35 and Interstate
37 today through Tuesday. Isolated higher amounts in excess of
25 inches are possible near and south of the Interstate 10 corridor.

For the Interstate 35 corridor and the eastern Hill Country, including
the cities of San Antonio and Austin 6 to 12 inches are forecast with
isolated higher amounts.

Harvey is expected to stall or move very slowly over the area. With
these forecasted rainfall amounts catastrophic river flooding is also
very likely east of Interstate 35 and south of Interstate 10 in the
Colorado, Guadalupe, and San Antonio river basins.

Additionally, hurricane force winds of 70 to 80 mph will be possible
for the counties within the Hurricane Warning. 40 to 50 mph winds with
some gusts to 60 mph, in the tropical rain bands, will be possible for
areas within the Tropical Storm Warning including San Antonio and San
Marcos. The Austin area could see winds of 20 to 30 mph with gusts to
40mph within rain bands. The timing of these winds look to arrive
as early as Friday afternoon through Saturday morning.
There is a low
risk of brief tornadoes east of Interstate 35 and south of Interstate
10 Friday evening into the weekend associated with tropical rain bands.

...Happening now and future forecast through this evening...
Current radar images show rain bands already affecting the middle to
northern part of Texas coast. These rain bands are expected to
produce heavy rain across the coastal plains and southeast counties
this afternoon before tropical storm force winds arrive late this
afternoon or early evening to the middle Texas coast. These rain
bands could produce isolated and quick tornadoes as they move inland
across the southeast part of South Central Texas.

Weather conditions will deteriorate late tonight into Saturday as
Harvey makes landfall. A long period of Heavy rain is expected across
South Central Texas late tonight through early next week. This is a
a life-threatening and catastrophic heavy rainfall event, especially
for areas east of Interstate 35 and Interstate 37.

Please see our key messaging points for this event:

1) A life-threatening and catastrophic heavy rainfall event is
expected east of I-35 and I-37.
2) Average rainfall amounts of 10-20 inches are expected east of
I-35 and I-37 Today through Tuesday.
3) Isolated higher totals in excess of 25 inches are possible near
and south of the I-10 corridor.
4) Along the I-35 corridor and across the eastern Hill Country,
including the City of San Antonio and Austin, 6-12 inches with
isolated higher totals are possible.

Additional important notes:
a) Small shifts in the forecast track of Harvey and where it stalls
this weekend could result in very large differences in rainfall
totals.
b) Catastrophic mainstem river flooding lasting many days is
possible east of I-35 and I-37 in the Colorado, Guadalupe, and San
Antonio river basins.
c) Tropical Storm Force winds arriving as early
as of this afternoon in rain bands.
d) 70-80 mph winds are expected for counties in the Hurricane Warning.
f) Large trees could be snapped, power lines downed, and damage
to homes could occur. Power and communication outages are likely.
e) 40-50 mph winds are expected within the area now under
a Tropical Storm Warning with gusts to 60 mph in rain bands.
This includes San Antonio to San Marcos areas. Damage to
trees and power lines are possible, leading to scattered power
outages.
g) For Austin 20-30 mph with gusts in excess of 40 mph in rain
bands.
h) There is a marginal risk for tornadoes east of a I-35 and I-37
this afternoon through Saturday. These small tornadoes are typically
very fast moving and short-lived.

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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1572 Postby Brent » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:36 pm

We have been having a nice rain for about an hour now here in Wylie

Euro looks to be trending towards the gfs with Harvey coming further north at the end of next week the coast gets destroyed before then with amounts over 50 inches indicated
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1573 Postby Ntxw » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:40 pm

Brent wrote:We have been having a nice rain for about an hour now here in Wylie

Euro looks to be trending towards the gfs with Harvey coming further north at the end of next week the coast gets destroyed before then with amounts over 50 inches indicated


The unfolding rainfall disaster is going to be horrific. People just can't comprehend that kind of rain and they don't realize emergency crews can't help them if they can't get to them.

Looks like Harvey is going to be upgraded shortly to a major hurricane within the coming hour, ending the US landfall major drought.
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1574 Postby Ntxw » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:48 pm

No one has really mentioned this, but the models have quietly been seeing an EPAC storm that may connect some moisture next week to add to the rain potential next week. Probably not what the southern half of the state wants to hear.
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1575 Postby drewser » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:10 pm

Ntxw wrote:Looks like Harvey is going to be upgraded shortly to a major hurricane within the coming hour, ending the US landfall major drought.

Just upgraded to Category 3, per Pete Delkus.
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1576 Postby Ntxw » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:12 pm

drewser wrote:
Ntxw wrote:Looks like Harvey is going to be upgraded shortly to a major hurricane within the coming hour, ending the US landfall major drought.

Just upgraded to Category 3, per Pete Delkus.


105kts.

Euro is just insane 50-60" of rain...Corpus to Houston and all areas in between 20/30/40"!
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1577 Postby Cerlin » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:19 pm

When is the bulk of the hurricane estimated to make landfall? :?:
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1578 Postby Ntxw » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:20 pm

Cerlin wrote:When is the bulk of the hurricane estimated to make landfall? :?:


overnight tonight, maybe around midnight. But hurricane conditions along the coast will occur well before and well after. Tornado warnings are starting to light up, up and down the Texas coast.
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1579 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:51 pm

Getting the first of Harvey's rainbands. Blew down the neighbor's basketball goal across street. Wind picked up and got gusty and the rain got heavy. Warm, tropical rain!
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Re: Texas Summer 2017

#1580 Postby Ntxw » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:01 pm

Some 120kts+ just above the surface from recon...may reach Cat 4 at landfall...
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