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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#581 Postby weatherdude1108 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:59 pm

Ntxw wrote:
weatherdude1108 wrote:I have a general question related to the current weather pattern.

What exactly is causing this intense, relentless heat that we have been experiencing, that just doesn't seem to end, as compared to normal heat?


This is an extremely loaded question! Some anecdotal.

This is not something that just suddenly popped up. The seeds were planted many months ago, arguably back to last Fall.

General rule is La Nina favors warmth and drought in Texas, but not always there are good and bad La Ninas. 2020 and 2021 were 'good' La Ninas. Despite them being so they had tendencies of weather patterns that gave us rain, remnants of a Pacific-Like Nino patterns. MJO at times were in Nino phases despite the burgeoning Ninas. From September to October of 2021 the Pacific changed. -PDO deepened and a couple of weeks of dry-ness became months of dry-ness through Spring. SOI became more and more negative. Then you had December, thanks to the Pacific pattern.

Forward to Spring, the rains were going to come because it's Spring! However it too was lackluster. Normal rains came as the PVa anomalies were shifting north with the natural seasonal warmth and it moved further north as the time went. During the season we lacked mid and upper moisture from the Pacific, cloud cover and moisture above can help cool the lower layer of the atmosphere but this wasn't occurring despite it raining in X-county over NTX or Oklahoma etc. Unabated warming above us set the stage for the ground drought and atmospheric drought to couple.

But in the background the PDO nose-dived and the SOI went with it to a historic stretch of negatives. What they were telling us that the Nina and the rest of the Pacific was going to couple, both tropics and mid latitudes. You can fight it with one or the other but losing both was a double whammy. And here we are in the dry season. That lack of Pacific help magnified. The heat-drought has already coupled with nothing to disturb it so it's a runaway feedback loop. When the ridge is weak the drought-fed warmth keeps the temps elevated, nothing is streaming from the Pacific to disturb it. When it flexes it takes that elevated heat and takes it a step further. It will stay that way until something knocks it off, and the Pacific is continuing to tell us with the SOI not coming from that direction.


Sorry for the lengthy question. :lol: I appreciate your feedback. You say just the facts, and leave the emotion created by this this pattern to the side. I'm guilty of getting frustrated and angry when I look at the forecast maps. But I know I don't have control over it. But still frustrating.lol. But I get it. You're like a breath of fresh air.

That said, we have a 30% chance of showers and storms after 1pm tomorrow. :wink:
:lightning: :rain: :rain: :rain:
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#582 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:24 pm

weatherdude1108 wrote:Sorry for the lengthy question. :lol: I appreciate your feedback. You say just the facts, and leave the emotion created by this this pattern to the side. I'm guilty of getting frustrated and angry when I look at the forecast maps. But I know I don't have control over it. But still frustrating.lol. But I get it. You're like a breath of fresh air.

That said, we have a 30% chance of showers and storms after 1pm tomorrow. :wink:
:lightning: :rain: :rain: :rain:


I hear ya! I check every day at the models hoping for ANY kind of wholesale change. Cold monger here, this is the worst we can ask for.

When the first real Fall front comes it will feel absolutely amazing after enduring all of this.
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#583 Postby Brent » Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:49 pm

I'm just waiting for hurricane season to get going but my fear there is everything will either go into Mexico or Louisiana and do us no good

But that's probably our only hope at a real change before like September unfortunately. These patterns are hard to break
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#584 Postby utpmg » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:07 pm

Ntxw wrote:
weatherdude1108 wrote:Sorry for the lengthy question. :lol: I appreciate your feedback. You say just the facts, and leave the emotion created by this this pattern to the side. I'm guilty of getting frustrated and angry when I look at the forecast maps. But I know I don't have control over it. But still frustrating.lol. But I get it. You're like a breath of fresh air.

That said, we have a 30% chance of showers and storms after 1pm tomorrow. :wink:
:lightning: :rain: :rain: :rain:


I hear ya! I check every day at the models hoping for ANY kind of wholesale change. Cold monger here, this is the worst we can ask for.

When If the first real Fall front comes it will feel absolutely amazing after enduring all of this.
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#585 Postby jasons2k » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:19 pm

Check out far West Texas!

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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#586 Postby SoupBone » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:08 pm



What the hell, man! :grr: :grr: :grr:
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#587 Postby Wampadawg » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:08 pm

It’s like there is this force field surrounding us in Pearland ,we watch a storm to the left a storm to the right and nothing.Haven’t won the daily rain lottery in over 2 months!
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#588 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:55 pm

Wampadawg wrote:It’s like there is this force field surrounding us in Pearland ,we watch a storm to the left a storm to the right and nothing.Haven’t won the daily rain lottery in over 2 months!


Are you a member on wxinfinity?
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#589 Postby Texas Snowman » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:05 pm

Sigh…

@NWSSanAntonio — Austin has reached 105 degrees for the 5th straight day, which ties for the 3rd longest such streak. Del Rio's low temp yesterday of 84 ties for 4th highest all time. While we'll be a touch cooler this weekend, extreme heat is likely to return by next Thursday. Stay cool, y'all!
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#590 Postby weatherdude1108 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:41 pm

108 yesterday and today at my house (sigh).
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#591 Postby cstrunk » Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:49 am

105F yesterday in Longview and we missed the evening storms by 10-15 miles.

BUT storms have redeveloped early this morning and we're now getting some pretty good rainfall out of it! Already at 0.88" and counting. Other areas are easily picking up 1"-2"+. :flag:

*Ended up with 1.19"!
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#592 Postby Ntxw » Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:47 am

cstrunk wrote:105F yesterday in Longview and we missed the evening storms by 10-15 miles.

BUT storms have redeveloped early this morning and we're now getting some pretty good rainfall out of it! Already at 0.88" and counting. Other areas are easily picking up 1"-2"+. :flag:

*Ended up with 1.19"!


What a surprise! Some of this activity has made its way to DFW's eastern/northeastern zones. Perhaps a few will get lucky.
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#593 Postby cstrunk » Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:06 am

Ntxw wrote:
cstrunk wrote:105F yesterday in Longview and we missed the evening storms by 10-15 miles.

BUT storms have redeveloped early this morning and we're now getting some pretty good rainfall out of it! Already at 0.88" and counting. Other areas are easily picking up 1"-2"+. :flag:

*Ended up with 1.19"!


What a surprise! Some of this activity has made its way to DFW's eastern/northeastern zones. Perhaps a few will get lucky.


Yesterday's HRRR 18z run pretty much nailed the redevelopment this morning in NE TX.
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#594 Postby gpsnowman » Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:08 am

Ntxw wrote:
cstrunk wrote:105F yesterday in Longview and we missed the evening storms by 10-15 miles.

BUT storms have redeveloped early this morning and we're now getting some pretty good rainfall out of it! Already at 0.88" and counting. Other areas are easily picking up 1"-2"+. :flag:

*Ended up with 1.19"!


What a surprise! Some of this activity has made its way to DFW's eastern/northeastern zones. Perhaps a few will get lucky.

Yeah you can see enormous cloud build-up northeast of here. Would love to see some rain.
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#595 Postby funster » Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:25 am

Even having clouds seems nice.
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#596 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:35 am

Jealous of Tyler.
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#597 Postby jasons2k » Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:27 am

I’m hoping something pops around here today. Best chances for rain in a long time, and probably the best chance of rain we will see for awhile down here.
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#598 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:42 am

I don’t even have a cloud but Dallas County is in the 80s. So aggravating!
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#599 Postby rwfromkansas » Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:50 am

Looks like an outflow moving west. Maybe that will bring cooling. Crossing my fingers.
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Re: Texas Summer 2022

#600 Postby DallasAg » Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:58 am

Heard a lot of thunder at my office near High 5 in Dallas, but no rain. At least clouds and cooler (less hot) air has been nice. Looks like south Dallas County and Ellis County are cashing in this morning. Happy that someone is getting the help.
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