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Re: Florida Weather

#9041 Postby NDG » Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:35 am

Big bust by the CPC which was calling for a cooler average month for FL, despite a very cool second week in December across the Peninsula the whole State ended up 1-3 deg F warmer than average for the month. The Caribbean Ridge was underestimated by the models.

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Re: Florida Weather

#9042 Postby Sanibel » Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:15 pm

There was light convective rain activity on tuesday over the mainland. This is in the heart of dry season.
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#9043 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:43 pm

Its looking like Florida will cool down late next week. Details to be worked as we get closer to this event.

NWS Miami snippet:

AT THE SAME TIME...MODELS SURGE A 1050 MB SURFACE HIGH INTO THE
DAKOTAS BEFORE MODIFYING AND SETTLING OVER THE APPALACHIANS LATE
IN THE WEEK. THE ECMWF SHOVES THIS HIGH MUCH FURTHER TO THE SOUTH
WHICH TRANSLATES TO A MUCH COOLER SOLUTION FOR SOUTH FLORIDA
THURSDAY MORNING DEPICTING LOWS ACROSS PALM BEACH IN THE MID 50S
WHILE MEX GUIDANCE IS NEARLY 10 DEGREES WARMER. WEIGHTED MEX
NUMBERS MORE HEAVILY IN THIS FORECAST PACKAGE FOR NOW TO BETTER
BLEND WITH NEIGHBORING OFFICES. EITHER WAY...SLIGHTLY COOLER
TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE IN STORE FOR THE LATTER PART OF NEXT WEEK.

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#9044 Postby TheStormExpert » Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:50 pm

:uarrow: That image looks very interesting, but I'm going to be very skeptical as to whether or not it does occur after this SE ridge has setup shop.
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#9045 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:37 pm

Ridge is starting to build in as the skies have becoming partly cloud across SE Florida with SE winds starting to pick up now across the terminals. Look for the winds to pick up even more later tonight and tomorrow for the weekend as the ridge builds. A very summer-like pattern in the upper atmosphere starting to setup though low-level temps remain pleasant with lows in the lower 70s and highs around 80F for the next several days. Can't ask for better weather for the first week in January.
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Re: Florida Weather

#9046 Postby asd123 » Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:31 pm

GFS for next week has upper 30s to lower 40s for lows for cfla, Euro has low to mid 30s, Euro ensemble slightly warmer than Euro, and finally GFS parallel warmer than the Euro and its ensemble and the GFS. Let's see how this will pan out. All the models show a general consensus of hostile teleconnections for Arctic air, so I am stunned by the GFS and (Euro's colder) persistent forecast for cold weather.

Additionally, there seems to be a SSW forming; will that save our winter? What do you all think will happen to our weather in the next month in addition to the SSW being a factor?
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#9047 Postby psyclone » Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:58 pm

NWS has much cooler highs for us by late week...mid 60's around tampa bay to near 70 in ft myers. those early estimates are below normal by a few degrees but they get us there very slowly ( a few degree drop per day)...we all know it usually doesn't work this way so perhaps it's a low confidence forecast...temp forecasts frequently bust this time of year, especially in the extended but certainly worth keeping an eye on. with so much of the country cold you would have to think eventually we're gonna get chilly
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#9048 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:40 am

Yeah, the very latest model runs are seemingly coming into agreement and finally, it appears we will see a pattern change by Wednesday of next week. A trough looks to develop and amplify across the Eastern CONUS as some of that cold air across Canada will finally filter down toward the Deep South. At this time, the cold doesn't appear to be extreme, but looks to at least bring a return of minimum temps to near freezing across North Florida this time next week. As asd123 mentioned, the teleconnections still are considerably hostile as far as bringing in extreme or arctic cold in our region at this time. However, now that we may be seeing at least some shift in the pattern, still ample time for Mother Nature to deliver a big time cold air outbreak across the Eastern US from now until into the mid part of February in my view.
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Re: Florida Weather

#9049 Postby NDG » Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:08 am

I wouldn't doubt the ECMWF's last couple of runs are correct about much "colder" weather coming for the FL Peninsula by the middle of next week in its very good medium range forecast but given the NAO going back to positive the cold of core Arctic air will stay to the north of us and exit quickly towards the Atlantic, the Euro shows the Caribbean Ridge claiming back its territory quickly afterwards. By the way, last night's Euro run has low temps in the low 30s all the way down to the suburbs of Tampa, mid to upper 30s for the Orlando area, widespread mid 20s for North FL. IMO, it might be a little too cold on its forecast, lets see if it keeps with this trend.
Until then temps back to the 80s for central FL this weekend :)
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#9050 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:28 am

Indeed models are latching onto this mid to end-of-week front for Florida next week...18Z GFS 2M Temps at their coldest. Looking nippy across Florida!

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Re: Florida Weather

#9051 Postby SouthFloridian92 » Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:33 am

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#9052 Postby psyclone » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:15 pm

NWS high temps have been adjusted downward again...upper 50's for Thursday in the Tampa bay area..those types of highs frequently imply freezing conditions for the nature coast. seems quite a change is in store.
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#9053 Postby psyclone » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:19 pm

interestingly enough the 8-14 day outlook shows above normal temps and the 6-10 day shows normal... with highs in the upper 50's being way below normal this would seem to imply the cold shot is transient as we would need a return to above normal conditions before day 10 to average out to normal for the period.
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#9054 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:20 pm

gatorcane wrote:Indeed models are latching onto this mid to end-of-week front for Florida next week...18Z GFS 2M Temps at their coldest. Looking nippy across Florida!

http://i59.tinypic.com/28w06ye.png

Both the 12z GFS & Euro have backed off a little.
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Re: Florida Weather

#9055 Postby Sanibel » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:21 pm

So warm down here right now I had to turn on the fan.
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#9056 Postby TheStormExpert » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:22 pm

psyclone wrote:interestingly enough the 8-14 day outlook shows above normal temps and the 6-10 day shows normal... with highs in the upper 50's being way below normal this would seem to imply the cold shot is transient as we would need a return to above normal conditions before day 10 to average out to normal for the period.

Yeah this would be a very brief cool down if it happens, followed by a return to the stubborn SE Ridge pattern we've been in since just before Christmas.
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Re: Florida Weather

#9057 Postby NDG » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:25 pm

Well just as I thought it would do, the 12z Euro has backed away from freezing temps reaching I-4 from its run last night.
Is even a tad warmer for the peninsula from yesterday's 12z run.
But a cool down is still in the works.
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#9058 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jan 02, 2015 2:59 pm

Thanks NDG for the update on the trends with the very latest from the model runs. Yeah, the coopl down next week will be likely very brief, so at this point I will take any cool weather we can get, which has not happened the past couple oif weeks.
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Re: Florida Weather

#9059 Postby ronjon » Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:50 pm

I haven't seen the 12z euro "back off" significantly. In fact, the long wave trough has consistently been shown to be rather deep all the way to the GOM from the last couple of days of ECM runs. From HPC:

...SENSIBLE WEATHER HIGHLIGHTS...

DAY 3/MONDAY BEGINS WITH A LARGE COLD ANTICYCLONE SPREADING ACROSS
THE EASTERN US WITH THE COLDEST CONDITIONS ACROSS THE NORTHERN
HALF OF THE STATES. ANOTHER EVEN COLDER ANTICYCLONE WILL BE POISED
OVER WESTERN CANADA TO DIVE SOUTHEASTWARD OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL
DAYS...BRINGING SOME OF THE COLDEST TEMPERATURES OF THE SEASON SO
FAR TO THE EAST.

BY DAY 4...LOW PRESSURE WILL DEVELOP OUT AHEAD OF THE SURGING COLD
AIR WITH SNOW DEVELOPING NORTH OF THE SYSTEM. ACCUMULATIONS LOOK
TO BE FAIRLY LIMITED ALTHOUGH SUCH SYSTEMS OFTEN HAVE A MESOSCALE
BAND/S OF HEAVIER SNOW BUT LOOKS TO AFFECT THE NORTHERN
PLAINS/MIDWEST AND PARTS OF THE NORTHEAST. A SURFACE HIGH WITH
PRESSURES PROBABLY EXCEEDING 1050 MB WILL MOVE TOWARD THE NORTHERN
PLAINS WITH COLD AIR SURGING ACROSS ALL OF THE EASTERN STATES INTO
THE GULF OF MEXICO.
THIS PROCESS WILL OCCUR THROUGH DAYS 5 AND
6/WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY.
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Re: Florida Weather

#9060 Postby NDG » Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:36 pm

:uarrow: Mid level heights are forecasted by the Euro to barely fall near average to slightly below average across FL and the gulf coast and the trough quickly moves out into the Atlantic, central and southern FL are just going to get brushed by the Arctic air, relatively speaking, but it will still get much colder than what we have been seeing lately, with highs possibly staying in the 50s to near 60 in central FL next Thursday.
Regarding the 12z Euro backing off, some of us were talking about it backing away from last night's run which showed low temps in the low 30s all the way down to Tampa. In today's 12z run it showed low temps higher in the upper 30s to low 40s along the I-4 corridor for next Friday morning.

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