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#9761 Postby asd123 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:46 pm

northjaxpro wrote:98.4 degrees at my locale currently, the hottest temp measured so far this early summer. It is blistering hot out here and with the ridge in place, it will be in the mid-upper 90s every day this week with hardly any rain in sight for the foreseeable future. What a dry, hot pattern we are in right now. Could see the mercury hit 100 degrees the next couple of days here.


Yeah this heat is insane for the Deep South!!! Here's a sample: Sumter, South Carolina (Now 14 day forecast from the Weather Channel. ) http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/l/USSC0333:1:US Absolutely unbelievable; no end in sight for 100s. NWS NOAA is a little cooler, with 100 or above till Wednesday, and then mid to upper 90s for the rest of the forecast period. Judging from my view, the Deep South (Southeastern half of Georgia, SE South Carolina, and northern Florida) is in for a few 100 + days and then upper 90s days for the next 10 days at least.
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#9762 Postby Patrick99 » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:40 am

This pattern is a major bore. And it's going to put us in severe drought conditions in no time.
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#9763 Postby psyclone » Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:33 am

what's boring for some is exciting for others. we're getting huge thunderstorms everyday on the western side of the peninsula. the last 2 nights in a row my sky was covered in mammatus clouds at sunset. it was absolutely spectacular. Florida's lightning hot spot...from the ft myers area up through tampa bay is really living up to its reputation...we're hearing thunder just about everyday even if we're not directly getting dumped on..someone close by is.
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#9764 Postby boca » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:25 pm

We are in a drought now and I don't see any rain anytime soon and I'm talking weeks.The pattern will not change. We are going thru what Texas had last summer.
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#9765 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:45 pm

boca wrote:We are in a drought now and I don't see any rain anytime soon and I'm talking weeks.The pattern will not change. We are going thru what Texas had last summer.


Hopefully we don't end up like Texas in the future cause El Ninos can cause wet winters here in florida. :eek:
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#9766 Postby psyclone » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:11 pm

the seabreeze is making some progress inland...we should see some vigorous thunderstorm development near/just east of I-75 with a drift back toward the west. got a thunderstorm earlier with frequent cloud to ground lightning strikes...almost at the same time as yesterday's storm which also featured a boatload of lightning.
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#9767 Postby MetroMike » Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:30 pm

Had some dry air intrusion in the mid-levels here on the west coast this evening which capped an otherwise perfect set up for storms.
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#9768 Postby psyclone » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:22 pm

MetroMike wrote:Had some dry air intrusion in the mid-levels here on the west coast this evening which capped an otherwise perfect set up for storms.

Yeah what a buzzkill that was. Still some showers going after midnight though..and it's sickeningly hot and humid out. hopefully we can get some more widespread convection but the extended outlooks show overall warmer than normal temps and below normal precip for fl.
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#9769 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:58 am

heading towards a drought here in SE Florida with no end in sight in this east wind pattern.

June is our peak month of rainfall while July is drier historically. A weak tropical system would be a good thing here across South Florida so hopefully we get that sometime soon.
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#9770 Postby gatorcane » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:21 pm

Rinse and repeat. Will this pattern ever change? :roll:

REA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
248 PM EDT THU JUN 18 2015

...BEST COVERAGE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUE TO BE OVER
INTERIOR AND WEST COAST METRO AREAS THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT
WEEK...

More dust on the way to make things even drier: :grrr:

THE LONG RANGE MODELS ARE ALSO SHOWING POSSIBILITY OF SOME SAHARAN
DUST WORKING INTO THE AREA BY MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK WHICH COULD
REDUCE THE COVERAGE DOWN TO ISOLATED OVER THE INTERIOR AND WEST
COAST METRO AREAS.

http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php ... glossary=1
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#9771 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:46 pm

The mercury reached 97.4 degrees today. This is the fifth consecutive day of having temps reach above 95 degrees at my locale. The bad news is that it could get even hotter going into next week. The long range models are showing a low pressure trough moving off the Northeast U.S. next week, and as that occurs, The ridge will expand from the Southeast U.S. to the Central U.S. This pattern is locked in place possibly to the end of June. This is progressively beginning to remind me of 1998, and the wildfires that occured all across the northern peninsula due to those extreme drought conditions. We may be headed to that type of situation soon if this pattern doesn't change soon, and the summer solstice kicks off the season officially this weekend.
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Re: Florida Weather

#9772 Postby boca » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:47 pm

I think that if a storm would actually form in the MDR which most likely wont,but if it does we will get hit from it.If this pattern continues our rain deficit might approach 20" below normal by August/September time frame,can you say water restrictions again.
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#9773 Postby boca » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:49 pm

gatorcane wrote:heading towards a drought here in SE Florida with no end in sight in this east wind pattern.

June is our peak month of rainfall while July is drier historically. A weak tropical system would be a good thing here across South Florida so hopefully we get that sometime soon.


The only way that will happen is if it forms ESE of us,and I'm hoping that happens,but no hurricane but I'll take a tropical storm.
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#9774 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:50 pm

Nah. That won't happen. The pattern will change. It's not a La Nina like 98. It's an El Nino. The pattern will soon change. :roll:
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#9775 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:54 pm

HURRICANELONNY wrote:Nah. That won't happen. The pattern will change. It's not a La Nina like 98. It's an El Nino. The pattern will soon change. :roll:


Yeah I am aware that an El Nino is in place currently, but it certainly has not behaved like one here in this region since the beginning of May. Rain deficits are approaching anywhere from 5-10 inches below the norm for this time of year currently here in the Jax area. Since May 1, I have measured only a little less than 3 inches of rainfall at my locale. So, I have been anticipating a change, but it is approaching 2 months now with this current pattern, and I feel it ain't changing for at least another 10-14 days.
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#9776 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:54 am

This is the set-up for next week. The heat ridge is in complete control and the potential for triple digit temps across portions of the Southeast U.S. The heat wave will be the major story next week for sure.

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#9777 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:15 pm

HURRICANELONNY wrote:Nah. That won't happen. The pattern will change. It's not a La Nina like 98. It's an El Nino. The pattern will soon change. :roll:


Actually, 1998 was an El Nino year, not a La Nina. As a matter of fact, the El Nino of 1997 - 1998 was one of the strongest on record in North America. This El Nino carried over from the Fall/Winter '97 in which it bought much milder and wetter conditions with flooding across California and the Southern CONUS, and here in Florida. Later, we transitioned to extreme drought across Florida in the Spring/Summer'98 which lead to one of the worst wildfire seasons ever across the peninsula.

This excerpt below from the National Climate Data Center explains well what occured back in 1998 and you can clearly see that we are experiencing similar conditions currently as to what happened then with the dominant ridge pattern, which the peninsula has seen in place since the beginning of May:

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Climate Change, El Niño, and the Florida Drought.

Although the links are not clear, a possible consequence of climate change is more frequent and vigorous El Niño events. The exceptional global warmth for the year to date (January - May, 1998) is clearly El Niño related, however this warmth can also be viewed as being superimposed on top of any climate change being observed.

Another suspected consequence of climate change is enhanced climate variability, possibly bringing on more frequent and severe extreme events, such as flooding and drought. Florida experienced an unusually large amount of El Niño precipitation and mild temperatures during the winter and early spring. However, precipitation in central to northern Florida has been suppressed for the period beginning in late March to the end of June due to an intense ridge of high pressure, with some locations, such as Melbourne, receiving only a few percent of normal precipitation for the period. Temperatures for the same period have been exceptionally warm.


The unusually wet mild winter promoted rapid growth in bushes and grass (i.e. a lush under-story). These climatic conditions were immediately followed by a severe drought during the late spring and early summer, which is normally the beginning of the wet season . The recent period of extended daylight, intense sunshine, and unusually hot dry weather, caused the short rooted under-story to rapidly dry out, and serve as fuel for the pervasive fires throughout Florida.

This is an excellent example of how a combination of extreme events: wet and mild in the winter, dry and hot in the summer, causes severe environmental impacts. Climatic data indicates that the such extreme events are increasing over the United States.
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#9778 Postby psyclone » Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:57 am

I don't buy these rainy season cancel posts. we've had years where communities scrapped their fireworks shows for the 4th (in other words the rainy season was very late in arriving) but it always showed up and rained buckets. I'm confident that will be the case this year and the arrival may now be in sight. the overnight discussion from tampa bay referenced a pattern change around a week from now that would result in a west/southwest flow..that pattern brings the big rains to the east coast late day. let's see what happens
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#9779 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Jun 20, 2015 11:58 am

El Nino can typically bring on periods of dry weather, which we have been experiencing for much of the past two months. I certainly think we will see the pattern change and have the dominant ridge be replaced by an upper trough over the Eastern U.S. I think the ridging will be around for at least the next 7-10 days, then maybe finally we will see a hopeful shift by the Independence Day Holiday week/weekend.
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#9780 Postby Ntxw » Sat Jun 20, 2015 1:03 pm

northjaxpro wrote:El Nino can typically bring on periods of dry weather, which we have been experiencing for much of the past two months. I certainly think we will see the pattern change and have the dominant ridge be replaced by an upper trough over the Eastern U.S. I think the ridging will be around for at least the next 7-10 days, then maybe finally we wll se a hopeful shift by the Independence Day Holiday week/weekend.


El Nino certainly plays an important role in Florida weather. I remember reading a blog from the CPC that El Nino/ENSO effects across the US is stronger during the fall and winter. So eventually later this year it will get wetter and cooler for Florida though not a guarantee. NDG touched base with this some time back the NAO plays a role as well. During the summer the patterns are more stagnant thus I think the dry weather is in relation to the higher pressures across the Atlantic allowing these heat ridges to be closer to the southeast coast and stronger than normal.
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