Sea Ice Growing At Fastest Rate in Recorded History

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Sea Ice Growing At Fastest Rate in Recorded History
Daily Tech ^ | 11/07/2008 | Michael Asher
http://www.dailytech.com/Sea+Ice+Growin ... e13385.htm
Rapid Rebound Brings Ice Back to Levels from the 1980s.

An abnormally cool Arctic is seeing dramatic changes to ice levels. In sharp contrast to the rapid melting seen last year, the amount of global sea ice has rebounded sharply and is now growing rapidly. The total amount of ice, which set a record low value last year, grew in October at the fastest pace since record-keeping began in 1979.

The actual amount of ice area varies seasonally from about 16 to 23 million square kilometers. However, the mean anomaly -- defined as the difference between the current area and the seasonally-adjusted average-- changes much slower, and generally varies by only 2-3 million square kilometers.

That anomaly had been negative...
....
WELL WELL WELL look like global warming as been flat lined. Its time for some common sense!!!

[HURAKAN]

One year is not enough data to say "hey, say goodbye to Global Warming."

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

Well Matt you won the other GW debate against me..LOL...
Looks like the cute little polar bears will have more ice to play with.

[HenkL]

The maximum of Arctic ice (winter) didn't change a lot last decennia. With a couple of degrees warming the temperature still is low enough to get the seas freezing over there in wintertime, and even a couple of degrees more warming won't stop that.
It is the summer minimum where the changes are big. And because the maximum hardly isn't changing, the amplitude between maximum and minimum is growing. This means faster melting AND faster freezing, although not every year being the same.
There are several factors impacting the melting and freezing: air temperature, strength and temperature of ocean currents, local winds due to high and low pressure systems (remember that Arctic ice is floating and moving, even in winter).

[gigabite]

[somethingfunny]

I can't believe nobody has mentioned this yet:



http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-piracy19-2008nov19,0,2753858.story
Hong Kong freighter
http://voanews.com/english/2008-11-19-voa11.cfm
Indian Navy battles pirates
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a_M2fCSkvCgk&refer=home
Saudi supertanker
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122688367525432273.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Blu-Ray discs pirated
http://africa.reuters.com/wire/news/usnKLR418916.html
Thai fishing vessels
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,454124,00.html
Hostages in Somalia
http://www.bradenton.com/253/story/1042144.html
Pirates reach the state playoffs


I have yet to see any proof more concrete than this on either side of the debate. Clearly, the increase in pirate attacks, the increase in sea ice and the decrease in worldwide tropical cyclone activity as well as the recent early snowstorms in England and the US are not coincidential.

[Sanibel]

I consider pirate attack data non-scientific and unrelated to real global warming science.


I understand the post relating higher amplitude effects of faster freezing and summer peak melting. Pirate trolling does very little to answer that.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

Global Warming gives extra heat energy to the jet stream = record cold
winter, record hot summer. An international report by scientists Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change can't be wrong.

But fine, let people ignore the GW facts, watch it wreak havoc- I'll
build myself a dome of a home and videotape the next monster hurricane
that slams into the Florida peninsula from the safety of my Dome. Yes I know
monsters have hit Florida in the past, but I am talking about a storm
that is some 175-185 mph at LANDFALL, that after weakening from a
200 mph storm over the Atlantic or Gulf.
And All you Global warming doubters- you may be running for the hills-
cause it's just too little, too late. More intense hurricanes are on their
way, mabye not as many- but the futuristic models have scientific backing,
lesser hurricanes, but hurricanes get much more violent.

[Sanibel]

Hard to say Tampa Bay Hurricane. The effects could be only 5-10mph extra. Or an extra storm or two earlier and later in the season without too much noticeable intensity increase. Or even a disrupted upper level that shears storms making for lower seasons interspersed with higher, stronger seasons. The dome would be cool to ride out a storm in, but if it was on Bolivar it would have needed to have been rooted deep.

The faster freezing and summer receding due to stronger fluctuations is interesting because unusual swings in extremes is a sign of global warming. So seeing people report one aspect (possibly) out of context while the thing they are isolating could be the opposite of what they suggest is ironic.

[gigabite]

Monster storms happen
However pre 1986
Storm count truth wasn’t