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Next 50 years my thinking on climate

#1 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:52 pm

My report on the next 50 years of climate


Mars,Pluto,Juptier are warming up. Data from the Mars shows it is warming up. The suns level of activty over the last 50 years is way up(11 year cycle of activy by 2010-2012). During the little ice age from 1400 to 1850 was way down(Some charts show almost none for a hundred years). Which made the world much colder. Also with a much colder enviroment causes more glaciers; which trap more CO2/Methane gas. So it is a question and a fact that the world is coming out of this ICE AGE/Glacier period. In which before that from about 1,200 years ago, the world was a good amount warmer. Even so some people think it was just a Europe event. Some data states other wise, like some tree ring data from all over the world. Also every 100 to 115 thousand years a innerglacier happens(Projects like ICE CORE, in antartic in the 70s), which has happen like that for over a million years. It is weird that this one is fellowing the same pattern. The one 115 thousand years ago was at least as warm if not warmer. So no this is not a million year highest like the media is trying to put off.

The overall ICE AGE pattern started about 1.5/2.0 million years ago. Ever since then we have been with this pattern. Before that it was warmer then today on earth. Large Animals that needed a thick atmopshere to live, and a lot of food lived on this planet for 200 million years. Sea levels much higher.

Also the fact that Ocean levels are up 400 to 450 feet since the end of the last ice age 11 to 15 thousand years ago. New york island was made from the southern side of the glacier,the ohio valley,and the great lakes where covered with 2 miles of ice. All the way down to Tacoma washington, there was 2 million glacier. Portland likely got 2-3 feet of snow a winter on the other hand.

So we got planets,moons warming up all over the solar system, also with increased data saying more sun energy, since the end of the last ice age. Really it is pretty hard to sell that humans are the problem. Look at nature resources like the sun which "could" be warming us like mars. Also look at the perma frost that holds tons of co2/methane over the artic. Which is something that is really warming us up, or something to watch. Humans make very little next to many of the other factors. But yes we still do make some; and which China and india should be thinking about cutting there part. America is a thousand times cleaner then it was during the 70s.

Over the next 50 years I expect that the earth will warm about .5f overall. With a increase of snowfall over antartic,,,which will mean glowing glaciers. The gulf stream will slow by a third, by the increase of fresh water into the system. Which will start effecting europes winters by 2030. This should start turning the climate around. Also after the solar max, by 2025 the sun output will start going down. So .5f-.8f during the next 15 to 25 years. Then a cool down of .4f to .6f the next 25 years. Global oceans should not wise more then a inch or two at max.

Most people will look back in 20 years...In think just like we do about the late 70s ice age thinking. The climate is very stable.
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#2 Postby Aslkahuna » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:47 pm

Yes, Earth's climate has been remarkably stable for the past 10000 years but it has not always been so. Currently, we are colder than the very long term mean temperature of Earth but we have been much colder as well as much warmer.

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#3 Postby HenkL » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:17 pm

Some small remarks.
On Mars we see a decrease on (only) the southern icecap for three Martian years; three years isn't climate.
On Jupiter we see a new 'red spot jr'. There are no measurements that the temperatures on Jupiter are changing at the moment, only thoughts that perhaps the equator could be getting warmer and perhaps the poles colder because of this. That doesn't mean the whole planet is warming. Beside, the radiation from Jupiter to space is twice the amount it is getting from the Sun.
Pluto was changing season. As on Earth, there is a delay for the temperature when changing seasons. See: http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/pluto.html.

When looking at the data for other planets and moons, we do see some very interesting changes. But weather and seasonal change isn't climate. Don't forget how long a local 'year' is on planets like Jupiter or Pluto.
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#4 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:51 am

Report two, on the effects.

It is shown clearly over the last million years, that our climate go's into innerglacierals, and glacieral periods. The maps that where drawn up from the ice core data shows a Ice age every 100 thousand or so years, with smaller periods of 8 to 11 thousand years, with in those. Also some studies show that every 400 or so years, we go into a cool period. The little ice age lasted from 1400 to 1850 Ad, data shows temps where a good 2.5 degrees colder over this period. The data is soildly supported that we have been coming out of that ice age period, over the last hundred years. The sun spot cycle shows that it is very much on the rise,,,in is going to have at least one more upswing over the next 20-25 years.


We are long over due for yet another ice age event, based on the records and data above. Which shows that we maybe less then a few hundred years from seeing the next major ice age. In fact with each one of "those innerglacierals" it rises to a sharp peak. The bad news is we are at the peaking top...So that is for the reason why I issued my termperature rise of .6 to .8f over the next 25 years, with a cool down then after. With 2 inches of sea rise tops onto the 8 inches confirmed in the IPCC report...

After this period the sun activty is expected to die down, with the overall pattern pointing to a cool down of overall world wide temperatures. This is supported in the data of the ice cores for the last million years, and overall sun cycles.

Some parts of the world it may of already started; Europe during the 2005-2006 winter had area's of spain and near there, that had the coldest temps in over a hundred years. With snow in the west banks that have not fallen in half that. Reports shows Glaciers in Antiartic are in fact growing...A station in the antiArtic has been covered on top with ice. Which a new one had to be built, and already that one is having a hard time in keeping above the snow line. This is a reported I've looked through a few months ago. Also Greenland is growing with data from the 70s to 90s on a mission to find WWII planes found that the snow has increased over 150 or so feet. Data from a few unremembered sources shows that it is growing, but lossing some snow on the sides. It was amazing reading that. I was shocked.

Much of North America is seeing a record Arctic outbreak, which is the longest lasting in 11 years. Temperatures of 20 to 50 below acorss the midwest have accured. In it should only get worst over the next few days. Many people have side "where is this global warming" on weather message boards all over the net? It sure as heck doe's not appear to be happening.

Also based on the reports of global trend over last year, shows that the trend downward may have begain. 2006 placed 6th globally, from first in 2005,,,In with the record cold over places that should not be so cold, tells me that we may be around 7th or 8th this year.

Alaska have seen snowfall that has caused many problems, but northern Alaska with most of the cold air over the midwest is seeing records HIGHS. I say that is because of the displacement of cold air. IT IS NOT GLOBAL WARMING.

So this will be my last report intill September of 2007. I believe its is super important that facts and history come together to prove the truth...So I hope you enjoy it.
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