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Tsunamis, hurricanes, fires and earthquakes have struck one after another this year. What's going on?

1. It's just a coincidence
36
65%
2. It's Global Warming
5
9%
3. It's all Bush's fault.
7
13%
4. It is the End of Days
7
13%
 
Total votes: 55

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#21 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:29 pm

Downdraft wrote:Has anyone considered that global warming would first be detected or observed by a melting of the polar ice caps? This would result in a decrease in the thermohyline circulation resulting in a decrease in salinization in the oceans and a "cooling" of the waters. I'm sick and tired of hearing global warming is causing more hurricanes. There have been 40 year cycles in hurricane activity for as long as we have recorded the data. There was certainly less global warming in the 30's and 40's and yet those were active decades for hurricane activity. If you can't back up with science what your saying isn't it best to not say it at all? Global warming is NOT causing hurricanes and I'm not alone in that statement I'm supported by Max Mayfield and every other expert in the field. As for Bush or any other human being causing a seismic event such as an earthquake to trigger a tsunami that is poor unadulterated bull manure. Give it a break people go find a different drum to beat.


Disagreing with others even if you make a valid point
does not warrant severe personal attacks...

Entering a debate filled with personal attacks is worthless
Therefore I don't owe any proof IN THIS CASE.

I never said anything about cycles not existing...Global Warming
INCREASES the intensity of storms during the active cycle
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#22 Postby f5 » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:31 am

it all means my lord jesus christ is about to return with all his glory amen :D
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#23 Postby angelwing » Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:07 am

Chastisement
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#24 Postby boca » Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:42 am

I voted its Bush's fault because I feel that's the best answer next to outrageous gas prices.
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#25 Postby Ixolib » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:30 am

These wouldn't be "disasters" if there were no people in the way of the natural event. In other words, stuff has been happening on earth in a very natural way for billions of years. Now that man has grown the population to the extent it has, they become "disasters" instead of just naturally-occuring geographical events.

Not disasters, just events in the life-cycle of earth. "We" just happen to be in the way now.
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#26 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:26 pm

Downdraft wrote:Has anyone considered that global warming would first be detected or observed by a melting of the polar ice caps? This would result in a decrease in the thermohyline circulation resulting in a decrease in salinization in the oceans and a "cooling" of the waters. I'm sick and tired of hearing global warming is causing more hurricanes. There have been 40 year cycles in hurricane activity for as long as we have recorded the data. There was certainly less global warming in the 30's and 40's and yet those were active decades for hurricane activity. If you can't back up with science what your saying isn't it best to not say it at all? Global warming is NOT causing hurricanes and I'm not alone in that statement I'm supported by Max Mayfield and every other expert in the field. As for Bush or any other human being causing a seismic event such as an earthquake to trigger a tsunami that is poor unadulterated bull manure. Give it a break people go find a different drum to beat.



A GENERAL MESSAGE TO ALL: Open Up Your Minds to the
Possibilities:


Science doesn't know for sure whether or not a natural global
warming cycle may be worsening the current active cycle.
To bash a scientific possibility on the basis of being sick and tired
of hearing it or on the basis of putting too much trust in it at the
expense of other possibilities is subjectivist, not scientific.

I won't get "offended" if my global warming theory turns out wrong.
I will accept the scientific fact- this is how we learn. There is no
need for disrespect in a learning environment. Make valid
points politely and respectfully.
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#27 Postby NoceoTotus » Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:33 pm

There is support for the concept of global warming happening as we speak... The polar caps on Mars are melting! This was recently reported after some more information was received from one of the recent satellite runs. Somehow, however, I doubt fossil fuels has anything to do with the polar caps on Mars melting. Now all that martian livestock on the other hand... :wink:
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#28 Postby sponger » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:08 pm

I do Love George but had to vote against him, its just too irresistable!

As for the things are getting worse, look at history and this decade is a cake walk!
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#29 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:21 pm

Really truthfully it is the people that build there homes/and live on the beach. To blame for the death/damage of this hurricane season. To say not so would not be truthful.
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#30 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:25 pm

The primary reason for the disaster is the construction of homes so
close to the water. Global and thermohaline
dynamics also play major roles, but the desire for the coastline
(no offense intended) has led to construction in vulnerable areas.

This is not to say that anyone deserves a monster storm.
But if you construct in a vulnerable area, there is that risk.

A combination of factors, but mainly the recent constructions, have
led to those horrific events which we term disasters.

I used to live right on the water but I have
since moved. I am at a higher elevation that can handle anything
except a major hurricane.

I personally believe global warming to be a factor...and will discuss it RESPECTFULLY.
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#31 Postby tornadochaser86 » Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:30 pm

i voted global warming to its so obvious
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