GFS/CMC showing possible TC development at 72-90hrs...

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GFS/CMC showing possible TC development at 72-90hrs...

#1 Postby SCMedic » Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:54 pm

What do you think? Latest model runs showing a possible TC developing SW of Bermuda heading into the SE coast...
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#2 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:01 pm

Both are pretty good models. I think they might be right because one shear is decreasing and pretty low dry air right now.
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#3 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:02 pm

A link please is needed.
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#4 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:03 pm

ya know I was just going to post something about that.

I think we should watch the waters near the bahamas past 90 hours and into days 4 and 5. I'm not saying we'll definitely see devolopment but, the models are showing lower pressures and vorticity in this area past 90 hours. This is in no way a forecast and I am simply posting what I have noticed from the forecast models. Let's see what happens..

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#5 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:06 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:ya know I was just going to post something about that.

I think we should watch the waters near the bahamas past 90 hours and into days 4 and 5. I'm not saying we'll definitely see devolopment but, the models are showing lower pressures and vorticity in this area past 90 hours.
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neither of these maps show a TC. In fact, the most I can see is a 1014mb low on the GFS. That is a VERY weak low. It would need to be showing at least 1004mb for me to consider a TC possible.
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#6 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:08 pm

neither of these maps show a TC. In fact, the most I can see is a 1014mb low on the GFS. That is a VERY weak low. It would need to be showing at least 1004mb for me to consider a TC possible.


I was not saying there was going to be development... I simply stated that this may be an area to watch in a few days from now. I never pointed out there was a cyclone out there.

I fixed the bad links for the images above.
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#7 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:08 pm

Whoa, with the High positioned there that will bring a TC right into an area between Florida and North Carolina.
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#8 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:09 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:
neither of these maps show a TC. In fact, the most I can see is a 1014mb low on the GFS. That is a VERY weak low. It would need to be showing at least 1004mb for me to consider a TC possible.


I was not saying there was going to be development... I simply stated that this may be an area to watch in a few days from now. I never pointed out there was a cyclone out there.

I fixed the bad links for the images above.


I was responding more to the creator of this thread who said that the CMC and GFS were showing a TC.
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#9 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:10 pm

I was responding more to the creator of this thread who said that the CMC and GFS were showing a TC.


ok my fault. But the poster should have linked something showing it instead of just saying it and not having any proof.
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#10 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:11 pm

HurricaneHunter914 wrote:Whoa, with the High positioned there that will bring a TC right into an area between Florida and North Carolina.
I wouldn't get my hopes up. Looking at the 72 hr. surface forecast from the NHC, anything that forms will likely stay in the Caribbean.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb_latest/atl ... BW_sm3.gif
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#11 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:11 pm

SouthFloridawx wrote:
I was responding more to the creator of this thread who said that the CMC and GFS were showing a TC.


ok my fault. But the poster should have linked something showing it instead of just saying it and not having any proof.
I agree.
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#12 Postby drezee » Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:25 pm

Another Canadian Coup?

The GGEM is hinitng at tropical activity off the east casot of Florida. It was the first to see Alberto...will we have a repeat?

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#13 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:43 pm

from the NOGAPS thread

Vortex wrote:12Z Nogaps brings organized convection E of the northern Bahamas to a position over southern Florida in 5-6 days.

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/CGI/PUBLIC/w ... 2006061812
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#14 Postby spinfan4eva » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:50 pm

Why are all these models showing this?? Its not climatologically possible and this is not an area where storms can develop in the month of June. I would definitely disregard.
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#15 Postby rockyman » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:06 pm

It is my understanding that these models do not consider climatology...the old models which were purely "climo" models are outdated and are far inferior to the models which look at actual data vs. what the storm "should do"...storms "can" develop in this area (water temps will support them)...If we disregarded models based on climatology, then we could have easily missed Dennis's intensity last year (Cat 4's "don't" form in July)...
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