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#1 Postby Recurve » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:06 pm

Thunder starting to rumble here. thunderstorms over straits, south mainland.

Key West forecast discussion:
FLORIDA KEYS AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE KEY WEST FL
330 PM EDT SAT JUL 1 2006

.DISCUSSION...
.CURRENTLY...
A BIT UNSETTLED THIS AFTERNOON AS KBYX RADAR INDICATES SEVERAL SMALL
CLUSTERS OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS PROPAGATING IN SYNCHRONIZATION
WITH SHORT OUTFLOW BOUNDARIES. AS OF 1845Z THE SHOWERS WERE MOST
PREVALENT FROM OFFSHORE LONG KEY THROUGH MARATHON/SEVEN MILE BRIDGE
AND EMERGING OUT INTO THE GULF WITHIN 20NM OF THE LOWER KEYS. OTHER
CLUSTERS HAVE BEEN BRIEFLY VIGOROUS BEYOND 50NM OFFSHORE THE MIDDLE
AND UPPER KEYS. EAST WINDS HAVE FRESHENED TO AROUND 15 MPH WITH
GUSTS ABOVE 20 MPH...WITH GUSTS IN THE SHOWERS EXCEEDING 25 KNOTS AT
TIMES. TEMPERATURES ACTUALLY PEAKED AT 89F AT KEY WEST...BUT NEARBY
SHOWERS AND INCREASING CONVECTIVE DEBRIS HAS DROPPED TEMPERATURES
INTO THE MID 80S. DEWPOINTS HAVE INCREASED INTO THE MID 70S.
DEWPOINTS IN THE UPPER 70S LURK ALONG COASTAL SECTIONS OF CUBA AND
IN THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS.

.FORECAST...
THE UPPER TROPOSPHERIC STORY IS TOLD BY A STRONG MID TO UPPER RIDGE
ACROSS THE NORTHWEST CARIBBEAN...WITH A VERY POSITIVE TILT SHORTWAVE
THROUGH THE EASTERN SEABOARD. OVER TIME...THE SOUTHERN END OF THE
UPPER TROUGH IS EXPECTED TO BE LEFT BEHIND OFF THE GEORGIA COAST AND
POSSIBLE CUT OFF. LATE IN THE WEEK MORE ENERGY SINKS INTO THE MID
ATLANTIC AND BOOTS OUT THE WEAKNESS. WHILE THE UPPER HIGH SLIPS WEST
TOWARD THE SOUTHERN GULF LATE IN THE WEEK...NO SIGNIFICANT UPPER
FEATURES ARE EXPECTED TO RETROGRADE THROUGH THE KEYS. BELOW...A
SURFACE RIDGE HAS BEEN STRENGTHENING ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST U.S. THE
NORTHERN EXTENSION OF A TROPICAL WAVE REACHES NORTHEAST THROUGH THE
NORTHWEST BAHAMAS. ONLY THE NORTHERN PORTION IS ACTIVE AS IT
INTERACTS WITH STRONGER WESTERLIES...GOOD VENTILATION FOR
CONVECTION. THE TROUGH ASSOCIATED WITH THE WAVE IS NOT VERY WELL
DEFINED IN TERMS OF ISOBARS...AND IT MAINLY HERALDS INCREASED EAST
TO SOUTHEAST FLOW IN THE LOW ALTITUDES CONTRIBUTING TO BETTER
MOISTURE CONVERGENCE AND ARRIVAL OF HIGHER THETA-E ATMOSPHERE.
PRECIPITABLE WATER IS EXPECTED CLIMB HIGHER TO NEAR 2.2 INCHES PER
GFS AND NAM MODEL SOUNDINGS BY SUNDAY. THERE IS SOME
DIVERGENCE...BUT NOT PARTICULARLY STRONG...FAVORING BEST LIFT ACROSS
THE EASTERN WATERS THROUGH THE NORTHERN BAHAMAS. DIFFERENCES ARISE
IN THE MORE AGGRESSIVE AND CONCENTRATED NAM VS THE MORE OPEN GFS
SOLUTION. GFS MOS POPS HAVE DROPPED WHILE NAM POPS HAVE SKYROCKETED.
WITH THE INCREASED MOISTURE...CONVERGENCE FROM NUMEROUS MESOSCALE
BOUNDARIES IN ADDITION TO THE BROADER CONVERGENCE WITH THE
TROUGH...AND SLIGHT TURNING OF WINDS TO SOUTHEAST BELOW 15000
FEET...EXPECTING GREATER COVERAGE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS.
IN
THE WAKE OF THE SURFACE TROUGH PASSAGE...RIDGE TO THE NORTH WILL
KEEP THE PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHT ENOUGH FOR MODERATE EAST WINDS
UNTIL MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK. THEREAFTER THE WEST ATLANTIC RIDGE
WEAKENS DUE TO THE LATE WEEK UPPER TROUGH MOVING THROUGH THE
NORTHEAST...AND THE WEAKENED RIDGE AXIS SLIPS BACK DOWN THE
PENINSULA.

FOR TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT...BOOSTED POPS TO HIGH CHANCE
TONIGHT AND LIKELY FOR SUNDAY AND SUNDAY NIGHT AS THE MAXIMUM
CONVERGENCE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SURFACE TROUGH MOVES INTO THE AREA.
EXPECT GUSTY WINDS NEAR 15 MPH. WHILE THE DOWNPOURS MAY OCCUR
SEVERAL TIMES...FAST MOVEMENT OF THE SHOWERS WILL KEEP RAINFALL
TOTALS IN CHECK. KEPT THE TOTAL 24-HR QPF FOR MONDAY BELOW ONE HALF
INCH FOR A KEYS AVERAGE.

MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT...WINDS WILL GRADUALLY SLACKEN AND
BECOME MORE SOUTHEASTERLY. MOIST AIRMASS WILL CONTINUE...BUT LACK OF
SIGNIFICANT SYNOPTIC PRECLUDE THE LIKELY POPS THAT MOS GUIDANCE HAS
PROJECTED. JUST KNOW THE DRYING PROCESS WILL BE SLOW WITH THE LIGHT
SOUTHEAST WINDS.

WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY...MAINTAINED CLIMATOLOGICAL POPS NEAR 30
PERCENT AND NORMAL SUMMERTIME WEATHER. WINDS WILL BE LIGHT OUT OF
THE SOUTHEAST AS THE SURFACE RIDGE AXIS WEAKENS AND SINKS THROUGH
THE FLORIDA PENINSULA.
&&

.MARINE...
MARINERS SHOULD CHECK THE WEATHER PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND CHECK WITH
NOAA WEATHER RADIO DUE TO INCREASING SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS LATE
TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY EVENING. THE MAIN IMPACTS FROM THE STRONGER
STORMS WILL BE BRIEFLY VERY POOR VISIBILITY AND FREQUENT DANGEROUS
LIGHTNING STRIKES. A FEW MAY PRODUCE WIND GUSTS TO 35 KNOTS AS WELL.0
THE PRESSURE GRADIENT DUE TO THE APPROACHING SURFACE TROUGH FROM THE
EAST AND A STRENGTHENING RIDGE TO THE NORTH...ALONG WITH THE
GUSTINESS FROM COOL OUTFLOW FROM NUMEROUS SHOWERS...WILL MAKE IT A
BIT DICEY ON THE STRAITS THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS.
RECOMMENDING SMALL
CRAFT EXERCISE CAUTION AS WINDS EXPECTED TO EXCEED 15 KNOTS WITH
FREQUENT GUSTS ABOVE 20 KNOTS. SEAS WILL BUILD TO 6 FEET...EVEN
HIGHER IN THE GULF STREAM...FROM EARLY SUNDAY THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT.
THEREAFTER SLACKENING OF THE PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL ALLOW THE EAST
WINDS TO DROP TO 15 KNOTS OR LESS MONDAY THROUGH THE REST OF THE
WORK WEEK.
&&


Radar:
http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?rid=amx&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=no
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#2 Postby The Hurricaner » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:41 pm

Where is it? is it gonna affect SF too?
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#3 Postby Recurve » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:53 pm

Look at the radar -- convection moving in gradually.

HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK FOR SOUTH FLORIDA...UPDATED
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
633 PM EDT SAT JUL 1 2006

FLZ063-066>075-022245-
GLADES-HENDRY-PALM BEACH WESTERN-PALM BEACH EASTERN-
WESTERN COLLIER-EASTERN COLLIER-WESTERN BROWARD-
BROWARD METROPOLITAN-WESTERN DADE-DADE METROPOLITAN-
MAINLAND MONROE-
633 PM EDT SAT JUL 1 2006

...SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS EAST COAST METRO AREAS TONIGHT...

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR SOUTH FLORIDA.

.DAY ONE...TONIGHT

THUNDERSTORMS: A WEAK TROPICAL WAVE WILL MOVE ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA
TONIGHT. SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS ACCOMPANYING THE WAVE WILL
CONTINUE TO SPREAD WEST OVER THE ATLANTIC COASTAL WATERS AND ONTO
THE FLORIDA MAINLAND. MOST OF THE STORMS WILL WEAKEN OR DISSIPATE
AS THEY MOVE WELL INLAND. THE MAIN THREAT FROM THESE STORMS WILL
BE LIGHTNING STRIKES.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY

THE RISK OF THUNDERSTORMS WILL CONTINUE ACROSS SOUTH FLORIDA EACH
DAY.

NO OTHER HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION WILL NOT BE NEEDED.

FOR MORE INFORMATION...VISIT THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN
MIAMI WEBSITE AT http://WWW.MIAMIWEATHER.INFO.
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#4 Postby hiflyer » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:01 am

Nice cluster coming ashore now basically from SR84 to the Dade County line.
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#5 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:03 am

hiflyer wrote:Nice cluster coming ashore now basically from SR84 to the Dade County line.


I can see the pretty light show to my south from here. Man am I jealous. :D
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#6 Postby tgenius » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:14 am

We got a little blip from it in Kendall..but its gone..supposed to be good rain tommorow down here.
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#7 Postby SouthFloridawx » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:17 am

Looks like we'll get a chance to get some showers and stongs firiing again in the overnight hours and tomorrow.

LOL at this discussion...

000
FXUS62 KMFL 020051
AFDMFL

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
851 PM EDT SAT JUL 1 2006

.UPDATE...SATELLITE IMAGERY...OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR INDICATE
NORTHERLY EXTENT OF TROPICAL WAVE BEGINNING TO MOVE ONSHORE
SOUTHEAST FLORIDA. SHOWERS AND STORMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE WAVE
HAVE GREATLY DIMINISHED...HOWEVER...OVERNIGHT REDEVELOPMENT OF
ACTIVITY OVER THE WARM GULF STREAM WATERS STILL LIKELY. WILL KEEP
40 PERCENT POPS EASTERN ZONES IN LINE WITH LATEST GUIDANCE.
EVENING CONVECTION OVER THE WESTERN ZONES CONTINUES TO WIND DOWN.
MAY SEE A LATE NIGHT SHOWER OR TWO THOSE AREAS AS WELL. CURRENT
FORECASTS LOOK GOOD. NO BIG CHANGES ANTICIPATED AT THIS TIME.


&&

.PREV DISCUSSION...
DISCUSSION...IF YOU READ MY DISCUSSION YESTERDAY, I SHOULD JUST
HAVE YOU PULL THAT ONE UP AGAIN. SOME THINGS JUST NEVER CHANGE.
SUBTROPICAL 50H RIDGE AXIS PRETTY MUCH CENTERED ACROSS S FLA WITH MODELS
CONTINUING TO FORECAST WEAK TROP WV TO MOVE ACROSS S FLA LATE
TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY. AN INCREASE IN DEEP LAYER MOISTURE WILL
LEAD TO NUMEROUS SHRA/TSRA FOR SUNDAY INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. MODEL
GUIDANCE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT WITH THIS TIMING AND I HAVE NO REASON
TO DISAGREE WITH THAT. ALREADY HAVE CONVECTION OVER THE WESTERN
BAHAMAS AND THIS MAY BE THE LEADING EDGE OF THIS WAVE. MODELS DO
SHOW THE TRAILING END OF A TROUGH BOUNDARY EXTENDING S OF A MAJOR
LOW OVER SE CANADA BUT LOOKING AT SATELLITE IMAGERY, THIS FEATURE
SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE EAST OF THE AFOREMENTIONED CONVECTION. AT
ANY RATE ALL OF THIS TO MOVE OVER OUR REGION BEGINNING LATER
TONIGHT INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. PLENTY OF MOISTURE HANGS AROUND
THROUGH MID WEEK AND THEN BY LATE NEXT WEEK A MID LATITUDE TROUGH
DEEPENS INTO THE SE U.S. AND THIS LOWERS 50H ALONG WITH TURNING
THE STEERING FLOW FROM THE W TO MAKE THE E CST MOST VULNERABLE. SO
ALL IN ALL LOOKS LIKE AN ACTIVE WEEK AHEAD.


MARINE...EASTERLY WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD
AT 15KT OR LESS SO SEAS TO REMAIN LESS THAN 4 FEET.

FIRE WEATHER...NO PROBLEMS OR CONCERNS WITH NUMEROUS AFTERNOON
THUNDERSTORMS EXPECTED THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK.

&&

.MFL WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
FL...NONE.
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#8 Postby hiflyer » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:22 am

Yup...hitting the GulfStream is blowing them up a bit...nice grouping above Freeport going towards Melbourne right now as well as a stream generating from around Nassau coming towards SoFla which a bit may survive plus a stream coming in at the upper keys right now.
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#9 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:11 am

The Hurricaner wrote:Where is it? is it gonna affect SF too?


it already has about 1 am, lol and this morning again. nice setup last night if you like lightning and thunder in north dade and southern broward, we also had a good show sat morning in fort lauderdale.
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#10 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:12 am

SouthFloridawx wrote:Looks like we'll get a chance to get some showers and stongs firiing again in the overnight hours and tomorrow.

LOL at this discussion...

000
FXUS62 KMFL 020051
AFDMFL

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
851 PM EDT SAT JUL 1 2006

.UPDATE...SATELLITE IMAGERY...OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR INDICATE
NORTHERLY EXTENT OF TROPICAL WAVE BEGINNING TO MOVE ONSHORE
SOUTHEAST FLORIDA. SHOWERS AND STORMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE WAVE
HAVE GREATLY DIMINISHED...HOWEVER...OVERNIGHT REDEVELOPMENT OF
ACTIVITY OVER THE WARM GULF STREAM WATERS STILL LIKELY. WILL KEEP
40 PERCENT POPS EASTERN ZONES IN LINE WITH LATEST GUIDANCE.
EVENING CONVECTION OVER THE WESTERN ZONES CONTINUES TO WIND DOWN.
MAY SEE A LATE NIGHT SHOWER OR TWO THOSE AREAS AS WELL. CURRENT
FORECASTS LOOK GOOD. NO BIG CHANGES ANTICIPATED AT THIS TIME.


&&

.PREV DISCUSSION...
DISCUSSION...IF YOU READ MY DISCUSSION YESTERDAY, I SHOULD JUST
HAVE YOU PULL THAT ONE UP AGAIN. SOME THINGS JUST NEVER CHANGE.
SUBTROPICAL 50H RIDGE AXIS PRETTY MUCH CENTERED ACROSS S FLA WITH MODELS
CONTINUING TO FORECAST WEAK TROP WV TO MOVE ACROSS S FLA LATE
TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY. AN INCREASE IN DEEP LAYER MOISTURE WILL
LEAD TO NUMEROUS SHRA/TSRA FOR SUNDAY INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. MODEL
GUIDANCE HAS BEEN CONSISTENT WITH THIS TIMING AND I HAVE NO REASON
TO DISAGREE WITH THAT. ALREADY HAVE CONVECTION OVER THE WESTERN
BAHAMAS AND THIS MAY BE THE LEADING EDGE OF THIS WAVE. MODELS DO
SHOW THE TRAILING END OF A TROUGH BOUNDARY EXTENDING S OF A MAJOR
LOW OVER SE CANADA BUT LOOKING AT SATELLITE IMAGERY, THIS FEATURE
SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE EAST OF THE AFOREMENTIONED CONVECTION. AT
ANY RATE ALL OF THIS TO MOVE OVER OUR REGION BEGINNING LATER
TONIGHT INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. PLENTY OF MOISTURE HANGS AROUND
THROUGH MID WEEK AND THEN BY LATE NEXT WEEK A MID LATITUDE TROUGH
DEEPENS INTO THE SE U.S. AND THIS LOWERS 50H ALONG WITH TURNING
THE STEERING FLOW FROM THE W TO MAKE THE E CST MOST VULNERABLE. SO
ALL IN ALL LOOKS LIKE AN ACTIVE WEEK AHEAD.


MARINE...EASTERLY WINDS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE FORECAST PERIOD
AT 15KT OR LESS SO SEAS TO REMAIN LESS THAN 4 FEET.

FIRE WEATHER...NO PROBLEMS OR CONCERNS WITH NUMEROUS AFTERNOON
THUNDERSTORMS EXPECTED THROUGH EARLY NEXT WEEK.

&&

.MFL WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
FL...NONE.


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL
337 AM EDT SUN JUL 2 2006

DISCUSSION
AXIS OF TROPICAL WAVE CURRENTLY OVER THE CENTER OF
SOUTH FLORIDA MOVING WEST. THE WAVE IS PRODUCING SCATTTERED TO
NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS AND IS INCREASING SLIGHTLY IN
COVERAGE. EXPECT MORE DEVELOPMENT EAST OF THE WAVE TODAY WITH
PLENTY OF MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY AS THE ACTIVITY MOVES WEST.
WITH DEEP EAST FLOW AND RATHER HIGH PWAT'S OF BETWEEN 2 AND 2.2",
WE WILL SEE SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS CONVECTION TODAY THROUGH TUESDAY
AND POSSIBLY WEDNESDAY. WILL TREND POPS BACK TO CLIMO BY THURSDAY
AS THE MOISTURE DECREASES A BIT. BY THE END OF THE WEEK A SHORT
WAVE TROUGH IN THE MID/UPPER LEVELS WILL DIG INTO THE SOUTHEAST
U.S. AND IT LOOKS LIKE A WEEK COLD (COOL) FRONT MAY MAKE ITS WAY
INTO SOUTH FLORIDA BY SUNDAY. SINCE THIS IS SO FAR OUT I WILL NOT
DEVIATE ABOVE CLIMO BUT IF THE FRONT DOES PUSH THIS FAR SOUTH, WE
COULD SEE SOME GOOD AMOUNT OF RAINFALL IN ADVANCE OF IT.
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#11 Postby jusforsean » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:53 am

We did see some good thunderstorms and lightning last night around 1 or 2 a.m. Good rainfall as well based on whats left to drain outside. Wonder if today will turn into a rain event?
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#12 Postby jlauderdal » Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:49 am

jusforsean wrote:We did see some good thunderstorms and lightning last night around 1 or 2 a.m. Good rainfall as well based on whats left to drain outside. Wonder if today will turn into a rain event?


its been active and unfortunately its getting real active around cocoa beach
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