Latitude of no return.

Stormavoider · #1 Postby **Stormavoider** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:34 am

For Atlantic tropical systems, at what lat would you say system is definitely Europe bound.

#2 Postby **JonathanBelles** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:35 am

40-45 north

#3 Postby **HURAKAN** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:40 am

fact789 wrote:40-45 north

Agree. But sometimes there could be a weather pattern set up that even at such high latitudes the system isn't guaranteed to be Europe bound.

Example:

Stormavoider · #4 Postby **Stormavoider** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:43 am

I,m wondering about that spin way off NC.

mtm4319 · #5 Postby **mtm4319** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:42 am

HURAKAN wrote:
fact789 wrote:40-45 north

Agree. But sometimes there could be a weather pattern set up that even at such high latitudes the system isn't guaranteed to be Europe bound.

Example:

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/atlantic/2003H/DANNY/track.gif

Or Hazel, LI Express, etc. This is not counting GOM storms of course.

#6 Postby **HURAKAN** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:16 am

mtm4319 wrote:Or Hazel, LI Express, etc. This is not counting GOM storms of course.

Only storms reaching 40 - 45 North are counted. Of course that none of the storms that form and make landfall, or just make landfall in the Gulf can reach 40 - 45 North as tropical cyclones.

Jim Cantore · #7 Postby **Jim Cantore** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:39 am

40-45 north but east of 25-30 west

WindRunner · #8 Postby **WindRunner** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:43 am

Hurricane Floyd wrote:40-45 north but east of 25-30 west

Well, that practically is Europe. That's like saying something is going to hit the islands if it makes it past 60W while south of 20N . . . duh . . . :lol:

Stormavoider · #9 Postby **Stormavoider** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:09 pm

What would be the max lat for a storm to turn south then head back west toward the east coast? Like if this thing way off North Carolina were to develop.

Jim Cantore · #10 Postby **Jim Cantore** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:52 pm

WindRunner wrote:
Hurricane Floyd wrote:40-45 north but east of 25-30 west

Well, that practically is Europe. That's like saying something is going to hit the islands if it makes it past 60W while south of 20N . . . duh . . .

Exactly

WindRunner · #11 Postby **WindRunner** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:55 pm

Hurricane Floyd wrote:
WindRunner wrote:
Hurricane Floyd wrote:40-45 north but east of 25-30 west

Well, that practically is Europe. That's like saying something is going to hit the islands if it makes it past 60W while south of 20N . . . duh . . .

Exactly

I was hoping that's what you were saying, but the whole can't-see-your-face-over-the-internet thing kind of makes it hard to see sarcasm.

Ziplock · #12 Postby **Ziplock** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:28 pm

I believe Alberto in 1999 did a rather large loop de loop in the N central Atlantic. As the first storm of the season (well into August, I think), we watched and watched and watched this confused fish...I think that Alberto came very near the record for longest lived named storm...something like 33-35 days.

So in answer to your question, Alberto violates any "rule" of latitude, since at quite northern latitudes, he managed to travel SE, then SW, then NW, and finally NE before heading towards Europe.

Zip

Jim Cantore · #13 Postby **Jim Cantore** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 1:35 pm

WindRunner wrote:
Hurricane Floyd wrote:
WindRunner wrote:
Hurricane Floyd wrote:40-45 north but east of 25-30 west

Well, that practically is Europe. That's like saying something is going to hit the islands if it makes it past 60W while south of 20N . . . duh . . .

Exactly

I was hoping that's what you were saying, but the whole can't-see-your-face-over-the-internet thing kind of makes it hard to see sarcasm.

It's not sarcasm, it's a statement I made sure was correct :wink:

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