Modeling showing Global Warming Increasing Atlantic Shear...

[cycloneye]

This is what the Atlantic will look like IF the proyeccions by these models are correct.

[Hybridstorm_November2001]

Also shows reduced shear for the Atlantic seaboard, unless I'm readind it wrong.

[Extremeweatherguy]

Also shows reduced shear for the Atlantic seaboard, unless I'm readind it wrong.

yes, and it also shows a bit of reduced shear along the far northern Gulf coast too. Could be bad news when it comes to storms trying to strengthen rapidly at the last minute.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Also look at 0-8 south in the south Atlatnic, more favorable shear. In with a more faverable eastern Atlatnic=more cape verdes, which are stronger. So in the future the strongest storms might form off the east coast or be Cape verde storms. While reducing storms strength for the caribbean.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Also this tells me that we will have a stronger TUTT which is farther westward and southward. So systems will also be turned out to sea alot more once they get near 60 west...But tropical waves will stay weak intill into the gulf, then form. With a slightly less unfaverable northern Gulfs then you will get Katrina's,Rita's.

[flightwxman]

Seriously this is getting out of hand. If it is too dry blame GW, too wet blame GW, too cold blame GW, too hot blame GW, often even for different effects on the same region in different years! What about climactic variability people, including natural (and often currently poorly understood) cycles?

But Isnt GW supposed to increase the extremeties of weather, which is why these claims come...?

e.g. the cold gets colder, the hot gets hotter, etc.

[Hybridstorm_November2001]

It is kind of like mitochondrial DNA; until fairly recently many biological anthropologists believed it was the be all and end all of linage research. However what those same scientists over looked was the fact that because it is only passed down through the maternal line, that if eventually all females of such a linage die outprior to passing it on or only sons are born, the genetic information of this type will be lost. Much recent evidence is indicating that carbon 14 dating can be influenced (by various things under various conditions) and will rarely lose the isotope at a non fixed, non predictable, rate.

In light of these recent discovers, it is very arrogant to assume that our means of measuring both past climatic conditions, as well as projecting future climatic changes, is any more precise when we are dealing with even less reliable data in this case, than the two examples I've credited.

[x-y-no]

Much recent evidence is indicating that carbon 14 dating can be influenced (by various things under various conditions) and will rarely lose the isotope at a non fixed, non predictable, rate.

That's a new one by me. Can you point me in the direction of this research?

[Hybridstorm_November2001]

A better way to put it is that it can easily be miss calibrated, especially less recent samples (prior to c. 2000):

"The need for calibration

Calibration curve for the radiocarbon dating scale. Data sources: Stuiver et al. (1998)[4]. Samples with a real date more recent than AD 1950 are dated and/or tracked using the N- & S-Hemisphere graphs. See preceding figure.A raw BP date cannot be used directly as a calendar date, because the level of atmospheric 14C has not been strictly constant during the span of time that can be radiocarbon dated. The level is affected by variations in the cosmic ray intensity which is affected by variations in the earth's magnetosphere caused by solar storms. In addition there are substantial reservoirs of carbon in organic matter, the ocean, ocean sediments (see methane hydrate), and sedimentary rocks. Changing climate can sometimes disrupt the carbon flow between these reservoirs and the atmosphere. The level has also been affected by human activities—it was almost doubled for a short period due to atomic bomb tests in the 1950s and 1960s and has been reduced by the release of large amounts of CO2 from ancient organic sources where 14C is not present—the fossil fuels used in industry and transportation, known as the Suess effect.

The atmospheric 14C concentration may be differing substantially from local water reservoirs concentration. Eroded from CaC03 or organic deposits, old carbon may be easily assimilated and provide diluted 14C carbon into trophic chains."


Source entire article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon-14_dating

* There are other sites too, but you all can find those yourself

[Hybridstorm_November2001]

The point I'm trying to make is that any type of measurement created by, and mainly preformed by humans, is thus subject to human error and/or misinterpretation. It should NEVER BE TAKEN AS GOSPEL, at least not with out many other lines of hard indisputably reliable evidence (which we just don’t have when it comes to past climate, fairly recent climate e.g. more than 100 years ago, or future climatic change).

[flightwxman]

Point Takin