NOAA says "No La Nina" this summer, but....

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NOAA says "No La Nina" this summer, but....

#1 Postby dixiebreeze » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:09 pm

there was none in 2005, either, and we all know what happened that year!

No La Nina This Summer, NOAA Says
By RASHA MADKOUR (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
July 13, 2007 7:33 PM EDT
MIAMI - The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has predicted that La Nina - a cooling of Pacific Ocean waters that generally brings a more active Atlantic hurricane season - will be absent for the next two months.

But don't get rid of those disaster kits just yet.

The absence of La Nina doesn't necessarily herald a tame summer for tropical storms and hurricanes, said Dennis Feltgen, meteorologist and spokesman for NOAA in Miami.

"There are so many other ingredients that contribute to the development of tropical cyclones, it's not just the fact that we don't have a La Nina that comes into play here," Feltgen said.

Hurricane season 2005 was a textbook example of this. La Nina wasn't around, but the season managed to break records, with 28 named storms, including 15 hurricanes, seven of which were major.

La Nina is the counterpart to the better known El Nino, a warming of Pacific waters near the equator that creates a less conducive environment for tropical cyclones in the Atlantic. Both ocean conditions are hard to predict long-term and don't follow regular patterns.

This year, forecasters have predicted an above-average hurricane season, which runs June 1 through November. They believe there will be 13 to 17 named storms, with seven to 10 of them becoming hurricanes and three to five of those reaching at least Category 3 strength.

Part of the reason behind this, Feltgen said, is that we're in an active hurricane cycle - a phenomenon of heightened activity that can last for decades. The last one spanned the 1940s through 1960s. The current one started in 1995 and could last for another decade, Feltgen said.

"So all things being equal, we expect an above average number of cyclones," he added. "Be prepared."

There have been two named storms in 2007: Subtropical Storm Andrea, which formed in May, and Tropical Storm Barry, which formed June 1, the first day of hurricane season.
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Re: NOAA says "No La Nina" this summer, but....

#2 Postby hurricanetrack » Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:32 pm

Well, what exactly does this SST anomaly map show?

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/d ... 1.2007.gif

And at the same time last season:

http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/d ... 1.2006.gif

Looks like quite a difference in Pacific SSTs to me. Atlantic seems about the same overall, but the Pacific temps just keep falling. So we know there won't be an El Nino, that is almost certain now. And it won't really be neutral but leaning more towards La Nina and certainly working in that direction. And the article says no La Nina for the next 2 months? Ok, so there will be one come September? Yikes, just in time. At least they do mention that La Nina or not, the season is expected to be active.
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Re: NOAA says "No La Nina" this summer, but....

#3 Postby Ptarmigan » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:21 pm

Some of the most active seasons on record occurred in Neutral years, non-La Nina/El Nino years. 2005, 1995, and 1933 come to mind.
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Re: NOAA says "No La Nina" this summer, but....

#4 Postby Rainband » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:42 pm

It only takes one. Remember 1992
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Re: NOAA says "No La Nina" this summer, but....

#5 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:54 am

Rainband wrote:It only takes one. Remember 1992



I agree. I keep on saying same thing and everyone still is
obsessed with the numbers instead of the strength of the
storms.
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#6 Postby Steve » Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:00 pm

La Neutral

It will be interesting to see what basic patterns develop out of this season and how they compare to previous seasons where we came out of an el nino and seemed to be pulsing toward la nina but didn't quite go that far.

It's just one factor, but usually in the absence of a dominant signal, other factors will take on more significance.

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Re: NOAA says "No La Nina" this summer, but....

#7 Postby TampaSteve » Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:32 am

Rainband wrote:It only takes one. Remember 1992


Yup...August 24, 1992, to be exact...it only takes one...
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