LILI WAS Retired after all - new name to be named later

[Stormsfury]

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutnames.shtml

[OtherHD]

Oh geez lol. Is it FOR REAL this time?????

[wow]

I hope they don't ask the Jackson-Lee lady to give them a name!

[Stormsfury]

I hope they don't ask the Jackson-Lee lady to give them a name!

Lakesha...

ROTF

[Air Force Met]

YOU STOLE MY NAME!!!!!!! I read this and that was the name I was going to suggest to make Jackson-Lee happy!! LOL

[Stormsfury]

YOU STOLE MY NAME!!!!!!! I read this and that was the name I was going to suggest to make Jackson-Lee happy!! LOL

ROTFLMAO

[Air Force Met]

YOU STOLE MY NAME!!!!!!! I read this and that was the name I was going to suggest to make Jackson-Lee happy!! LOL

[wxman57]

My question is - how does Lily qualify to be retired. Here are the criteria from the NHC web page:

<b><i>The only time that there is a change in the list is if a storm is so deadly or costly that the future use of its name on a different storm would be inappropriate for reasons of sensitivity. If that occurs, then at an annual meeting by the WMO committee (called primarily to discuss many other issues) the offending name is stricken from the list and another name is selected to replace it.</b></i>

According to the NHC archives (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2002lili.shtml), Lili killed 8 people - 4 in St. Vincent from landslides, 4 from flooding in Jamaica, and then there was that one woman in Crowley that died of carbon monoxide poisoning from running her generator in her home. That death toll is WAY down on the list of all storms. The dollar damage was an estimated total $860 milion. I suppose that isn't chicken feed, but it doesn't make the top 30 of costliest storms (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastcost2.shtml?)

I guess it must have been the dollar damage and the fact that it was a very scary-looking storm in the middle of the Gulf.

[JetMaxx]

ROFLMAO Mike!!!!

[Lindaloo]

I hope they don't ask the Jackson-Lee lady to give them a name!

Lakesha...

ROTF

I named some good ones in the other thread. lol.

[Stormsfury]

My question is - how does Lily qualify to be retired. Here are the criteria from the NHC web page:

<b><i>The only time that there is a change in the list is if a storm is so deadly or costly that the future use of its name on a different storm would be inappropriate for reasons of sensitivity. If that occurs, then at an annual meeting by the WMO committee (called primarily to discuss many other issues) the offending name is stricken from the list and another name is selected to replace it.</b></i>

According to the NHC archives (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2002lili.shtml), Lili killed 8 people - 4 in St. Vincent from landslides, 4 from flooding in Jamaica, and then there was that one woman in Crowley that died of carbon monoxide poisoning from running her generator in her home. That death toll is WAY down on the list of all storms. The dollar damage was an estimated total $860 milion. I suppose that isn't chicken feed, but it doesn't make the top 30 of costliest storms (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastcost2.shtml?)

I guess it must have been the dollar damage and the fact that it was a very scary-looking storm in the middle of the Gulf.

There's that one exception ... if the storm is so memorable, as not to confuse it with future storms. And I don't think anyone in LA will ever forget how quickly Lili went to Cat. 4, and then the subtle relief that it weakened to Cat. 2 before landfall ... considering the part of LA that Lili hit, it's not a huge population center like New Orleans, but very memorable and very talked about still.

[wxman57]

Yep, it was/is memorable. Louisiana was VERY lucky it weakened before landfall. But at landfall it was barely a Cat 1 storm. There were no reports of hurricane-force sustained wind along the LA coast - even at the CMAN buoys.

[Stormsfury]

Yep, it was/is memorable. Louisiana was VERY lucky it weakened before landfall. But at landfall it was barely a Cat 1 storm. There were no reports of hurricane-force sustained wind along the LA coast - even at the CMAN buoys.

Also that it wasn't a 100 miles east, either ...

[PTrackerLA]

Yep, it was/is memorable. Louisiana was VERY lucky it weakened before landfall. But at landfall it was barely a Cat 1 storm. There were no reports of hurricane-force sustained wind along the LA coast - even at the CMAN buoys.

There were hurricane force sustained winds along the coast, there just weren't any official reporting stations to report them. New Iberia and Lafayette were the closest sites that recorded sustained winds which were below hurricane force. However, Intercoastal city right on the coast recorded a 120mph wind gust and several other gusts over 100 mph were recorded in the area. I think that justifies it being at least a cat 1 and it was officially a 2 at landfall. I was amazed at how many trees were toppled in the area and I can't imagine what the 130mph+ sustained winds would have done, it gives me chills.

[JetMaxx]

Seems I remember a group of storm chasers from Texas A&M or OU...I saw them on tv; and they mentioned that they recorded a peak gust of 121 mph (105 kts) on a truck mounted anemometer near Intercoastal City.

[wxman57]

Seems I remember a group of storm chasers from Texas A&M or OU...I saw them on tv; and they mentioned that they recorded a peak gust of 121 mph (105 kts) on a truck mounted anemometer near Intercoastal City.

Yeah, but those Aggies forgot to pull over onto the side of the road before taking their measurements.